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Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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Anyone else not really arsed what he does at this point? Tired of circuses surrounding the club.
Suffering with personal issues that just so happen to be whoring himself around to every club in the CL that will take him?
Come on... we all know the truth. He's pushed himself out of United before, and Juve. He will do it again if he can.
Not going to happen, it was mentioned earlier in the week that if we do seem him back with the club it will be at Carrington after the tour.
I should come to these parts more often. Yes, you are exactly right. United had absolutely no intention of signing anyone, until Ronaldo "made a noise ". Fantastic insight.He is on 1m per week pensions, and he is only 23.
He's made himself look a huge numpty. A very unlikeable numpty. Which is a shame for all involved. It'll be interesting to see how the season pans out with him still here.
The backtrack has started (subtle inclusion of United shorts in the photo).
You are kidding right? This is an issue for many life long.
Utter fanboy level nonsense.
Alright, has anyone in the rest of his family ill or died recently? Ronaldo is one of the most famous people in the world, if something else was going, we'd probably hear about it.Jesus. I'm not hung up on you using the word 'compassionate', I'm hung up on you saying that it is fact that he is off on compassionate leave due to the death of his son. It is not fact that is he is off for those reasons - family reasons could cover a multitude of things. It's not even fact that he's off for 'family reasons' - unless you know him and his situation personally then all we know is that that is what the club have briefed that they have been told.
And in a way it doesn't really matter, but I felt it needed calling out, because if you're berating people for being critical of Ronaldo then that is one thing - but don't state things as fact that aren't, or embellish your point with emotive language about the death of his son, when none of us know whether it's even related to that.
You literally said you would 'lose respect' for him if he came back straight away - seemingly unaware that that is exactly what he did
In my mind it's beyond reasonable doubt that the family situation is the death of his son and birth of his daughter. It might not even be his grief, it could be his wife or post natal depression, or struggling with a new baby.
And as for the coming back straight away, as I have said multiple times, that you seem to be ignoring on purpose, a lot of people compartmentalise for a month or two, that's understandable, but to never grieve, that would make me think of him less.
But when the grief process has started (and as I said, that might have a delay, especially with very driven people in the middle of a project) it takes time, and to ignore that is to ignore parts of oneself.
Do you think half a week when it first happened and three weeks when he didn't have to think about football, enough to grieve the loss of a child? After that we're allowed to call him a cnut, a little shit, a tap-in merchant, a whore, a prick?
And as I said "all we know for sure is that he's off on compassionate leave after his son died", he is on compassionate leave, because being off for family reasons is compassionate leave, and his son did die, so what's wrong with it?
Too many people are believing the shit rags, rather than the information that the club has put out, that he's been given leave for family reasons, ie. he's on compassionate leave.
I assume death of own baby child is going to have huge impact to anyone, it’s not something that could be fully healed in matter of days/weeks/months.
Mendes gassing him up and saying he can get him a deal at a top club.
I'd sack him if I was Ronaldo
I'd sack him if I was Ronaldo
The backtrack has started (subtle inclusion of United shorts in the photo).
Fecking humanoid
The backtrack has started (subtle inclusion of United shorts in the photo).
he’s definitely past it. taking a picture like that you’d want to show the weight stack to show off just how much of a big ol’ boy you are. the fact he isn’t showing it suggests it’s on the top bar, either 2.5 or 5kg. pathetic.
not to mention that he's clearly so fat that he can't even fit into a pair of normal sized shorts.If its really just a personal matter, he could have come out and stated he wanted to stay. He didnt. That says everything.
I have literally no idea - and neither do you. That is the whole point!
those bolded words are key in this
Ignoring on purpose?!
I literally stated in my second post to you that it could be delayed grief - and that I fully support him in having time off if that is the case. You're acting like you're telling me something I didn't know! The point was that you didn't seem to realise exactly when the birth was, or that Ronaldo had come back quickly afterwards and played the rest of the season. Are you even a United fan?! And when have I ever said it's acceptable to call him those things?Nice try!
You clearly don’t have kids .
The personal issue was that his left pectoral was bigger than his right pectoral.
Yep, just hope Ten Hag doesn`t give him special treatment if we are stuck with him.
Roll on the first game and his next goal to calm this thread of seething hatred
he brings out the worst in us allRoll on the first game and his next goal to calm this thread of seething hatred
We are going to waste another season if Ronaldo stays. EtH will be forced to pander to this utter prima donna and all the best laid plans will come to nothing. When will we learn!
Ronaldo's insane if he doesn't take that offer from the Saudi's
No sane club wants him ."Best player in the world" my ass.
Except I did say that I knew he'd come back quickly mid-season and that he would have compartmentalised until the off season. I also stated that that whole grief process has it's own time frame, no one can predict how long.I have literally no idea - and neither do you. That is the whole point!
those bolded words are key in this
Ignoring on purpose?!
Nice try!
Mate, I'm pretty much the only one on here who believes United that he's off for family reasons. Most on here (not you), are expecting a United player to come straight back with no compassionate leave and are calling him every name under the sun because he hasn't. Then they believe every shit rag looking for clicks that he's being whored out to every fecking club in the world.
I don't care if the United player is Ronaldo, Phil Jones or Jesse Lingard, if United say they're off for compassionate leave, because they are having the cartilage in their knee rebuilt by cracking the ends of the the leg bones and letting out the marrow, because of depression, I'm gonna believe it and I will argue with those saying that the club is lying.
I'm sure there are, but there's a big gap between what he thinks he's worth and what they can afford.
- Are there any valid family issues that Ronaldo may face that necessitated that he miss the pre-season? - Quiet possible after the tragedy in the earlier season
- If there was, Could Ronaldo have handled it differently, putting out a statement with the club even requesting privacy - Absolutely he could have and should have put out a joint statement with the club. Fans sang his name throughout and they would be more than forgiving about it.
- Has his agent been pitching Ronaldo to other clubs - Absolutely seems to be the case, even reputed papers like Guardian are running with it, however, his agent never called me. So I'm going to believe the popular news outlets
- Is Ronaldo intent on leaving because we didn't qualify for CL? - I mean he had known this from April onwards. If he really wanted to play in the CL, he could have done this in a straightforward talk with the club and managed it, even if it's a shitty thing to do. But the way he has gone about it, more and more it sounds like he's a complete tit.
- Is Ronaldo putting pressure on the club to make more signings? - Well, out of all the arguments put forward by the Ronaldo fans, this is the most ridiculous of all. But still, for the record, I think it's a no.
- Does Ronaldo missing the pre-season affect us as a club in the way we play? - Absolutely yes. The team is used to a way of playing and Ronaldo now has to buy into ETH methods and learn the pressing and all that other bollocks. He's surely going to create problems in adjusting in the way we play. If the bloke is so concerned about our ambition, does this guy think he's better served sitting at home dealing with family pressures or whoring himself around to other clubs? Say he is affected by family issues, that still gives him a valid excuse to miss out on pre-season, but then why do his fans simultaneously crow about his ambition. Just decide ffs
Considering all that, I think that Ronaldo is a douche.
Only after I had pointed out that he had come back after a week or so and played out the rest of the season, which was in response to you saying that you would have lost respect for him if he'd come back straight away.
Anyway, we're going round in circles here.
If he is off for genuine reasons then I fully support him and he has my deepest sympathies. Everyone is entitled to use the various data available to them (including how things have played out when he has left clubs previously, and including what his agent is up to at the moment) and come to their own conclusions.
The backtrack has started (subtle inclusion of United shorts in the photo).
He posted that less than an hour ago and has millions of likes and 40k comments. I am sure a lot are bots but fecking hell. Are there people literally refreshing his page every second?
Because I was talking about the off season, not mid season. I did assume that people knew about compartmentalisation, I've seen it in so many people I've managed, I assumed other people would have seen it too.
The weirdest part about this conversation is that we both agree to believe the club, I just seem to be a bit more forceful in my wording, so sorry. But the amount of insults, from so many posters, I've seen in this thread disgusts me.
On the flip side Ten Hag wants him to stay so maybe he knows how to fit in him. Also its Ronaldo, if there's one thing he knows how to do it's to silence his haters. Most likely scenario is that all this negativity will blow over when he comes back and starts banging in goals
There really is nowhere he can go is there. Whatever happens I just hope this is his last season with us ..
At any given time, there about more than 20 million people checking the Instagram tbf
Sure, if you ignore reality.
The Eriksen move was at the literal same point it is now. Martinez wasn’t but we were still trying for Timber. The De Jong move was at the exact same point it is now. Malacia joined the same day the story broke of him wanting out.
So, you know, it was fan fiction.
This is like a husband telling his wife it’s not working and time they started seeing other people. Then five minutes later he comes home to tell her he’s changed his mind only to find her sucking off Anthony Martial.
Hey according to some Ronaldo fans here, he is currently as good/comparable to lewandowski who has been playing at Ballon Dor worthy level for the past 3 years. So perhaps he is still the “best player in the world” in some people’s mind
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