Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

[Sandikan]

It's the ludicrous black and white nature of people's opinions that get me.
Like there's no possible way a good manager could have Ronaldo in there, AND get a cohesive team together.

Posts on this page seem to suggest it was all Ronaldo's fault. As if he was forcing Maguire for example to consistently give the ball away, be sluggish and let people run past him.

What difference does Ronaldo 50 yards up the pitch make to Maguire for instance?
I could understand saying the lack of a technical mobile midfielder in front of him could make a difference, but not Ronaldo.

We didn't have a miserable season last year entirely down to Ronaldo. It was just as much down to Ole and Ralf's tactics being wanting, and almost every player's form dropping off a cliff.

 

[CH23]

It's the ludicrous black and white nature of people's opinions that get me.
Like there's no possible way a good manager could have Ronaldo in there, AND get a cohesive team together.

Posts on this page seem to suggest it was all Ronaldo's fault. As if he was forcing Maguire for example to consistently give the ball away, be sluggish and let people run past him.

What difference does Ronaldo 50 yards up the pitch make to Maguire for instance?
I could understand saying the lack of a technical mobile midfielder in front of him could make a difference, but not Ronaldo.

We didn't have a miserable season last year entirely down to Ronaldo. It was just as much down to Ole and Ralf's tactics being wanting, and almost every player's form dropping off a cliff.

Because in the modern game nowadays, the defense starts at the line of the attacking players.

I am not suggesting that it is Ronaldo's fault but i can understand why people think that way.

 

[Real Name]

It's the ludicrous black and white nature of people's opinions that get me.
Like there's no possible way a good manager could have Ronaldo in there, AND get a cohesive team together.

Posts on this page seem to suggest it was all Ronaldo's fault. As if he was forcing Maguire for example to consistently give the ball away, be sluggish and let people run past him.

What difference does Ronaldo 50 yards up the pitch make to Maguire for instance?
I could understand saying the lack of a technical mobile midfielder in front of him could make a difference, but not Ronaldo.

We didn't have a miserable season last year entirely down to Ronaldo. It was just as much down to Ole and Ralf's tactics being wanting, and almost every player's form dropping off a cliff.

Of course ETH could have Ronaldo and maybe make it work but its just he'll demand to play every game and 1st time he'll be dropped there will be a huge media circus about it. And next and next time.

Also I dont think any sane person our miserable season was all due to him but people blame him for the timing of this, especially since there seem to be no suitors and him being AWOL from preseason. Ok maybe it's a family issue but after a week its really fishy.
As for said timing, little after ETH was appointed there were news about Ronaldo being happy to work with him, only to declaring 2 months after he wants to leave by every means possible. Its not good for the club, ETH, preseason, aything.

Mentioning Maguire 3 times wont make the whole story any prettier.

 

[sepulturite]

I can guarantee I’ve been a United fan longer than you. And supposedly anyone who doesn’t bring the pitch forks out against him is branded a Ronaldo fan.

I can guarantee you haven't mate since your only 27 according to your profile page, I've been a fan for 30 years.

And let's just say your posts don't come across like your more a United fan than a Ronaldo one. And I have no pitchforks out for him, I'm completely indifferent to whole situation.

 

[Reapersoul20]

It's the ludicrous black and white nature of people's opinions that get me.
Like there's no possible way a good manager could have Ronaldo in there, AND get a cohesive team together.

Posts on this page seem to suggest it was all Ronaldo's fault. As if he was forcing Maguire for example to consistently give the ball away, be sluggish and let people run past him.

What difference does Ronaldo 50 yards up the pitch make to Maguire for instance?
I could understand saying the lack of a technical mobile midfielder in front of him could make a difference, but not Ronaldo.

We didn't have a miserable season last year entirely down to Ronaldo. It was just as much down to Ole and Ralf's tactics being wanting, and almost every player's form dropping off a cliff.

The only reasonable post in the past ten or so pages of this absolute cesspool of a thread.

 

[Sviken]

reckon hell end up at bayern if lewa completes his move.

I don't see Bayern putting up with his prima donna shit or disruprting their tight wage structure to accommodate Ronaldo. He's 37 at this point and while still a good player, even I would admit it was pointless bringing him last season aside from the feel good factor. It's a damn shame Cavani couldn't stay fit to save his life, but such is life.

 

[Gehrman]

reckon hell end up at bayern if lewa completes his move.

Doubt Bayern will break their wages structure for him. They are a well run club unlike us.

 

[LARulz]

Doubt Bayern will break their wages structure for him. They are a well run club unlike us.

Don't they pay stupidly high wages? As in not our level but still very high?

 

[MUFC OK]

Don't they pay stupidly high wages? As in not our level but still very high?

Lewa is on £375k a week. Think Ronaldo would take that at 37/38 for the chance to play CL if they were in for him.

 

[Gehrman]

Don't they pay stupidly high wages? As in not our level but still very high?

You're right they do pay well. Whether they want him is another thing. Sure Ronnie would love to go there. Perfect fit for him.

 

[OpenIntrovert]

Because in the modern game nowadays, the defense starts at the line of the attacking players.

I am not suggesting that it is Ronaldo's fault but i can understand why people think that way.

That is not the modern game, that is just fans thinking that football revolves around gegenpressing and total football. Fans need to understand that there are multiple ways to play football besides those 2 systems.

The manager who wins is the manager who knows how to make use of his players attributes in the best way. How Ancelotti won against Liverpool by deploying valverde to cover the flanks is a tactical masterclass which shows how the positioning of the players based on their atttibutes can help turn the tide in your favour.

As for Ronaldo, he is capable of positional pressing but his attributes in terms of attacking is far more useful to ETH. His ability to pick the correct offensive positions, linkup play and to provide the finishing touch to the final ball is what ETH is expecting, and will use. ETH is also a manager capable of using players based on their attributes and he knows about Ronaldo way before he became manager, so there is no doubt he will work fine with Ronaldo.

 

[No Idea For Nickname]

 

[De Portago]

Lewa is on £375k a week. Think Ronaldo would take that at 37/38 for the chance to play CL if they were in for him.

He'd take it allright, the question is why would Bayern who don't want to extend Lewa due to his age sign Ronaldo at a similar wage who's 4 years older and at least a level below as a player at the moment? Makes zero sense.

 

[Sandikan]

I can guarantee I’ve been a United fan longer than you. And supposedly anyone who doesn’t bring the pitch forks out against him is branded a Ronaldo fan.

How are you making such guarantees out of interest, bearing in mind there's posters on here with 50-60 years support.
Or were you just suggesting the guy you responded to was a casual?

 

[Sandikan]

Because in the modern game nowadays, the defense starts at the line of the attacking players.

I am not suggesting that it is Ronaldo's fault but i can understand why people think that way.

You don't sign attackers for their defensive ability though.
I know we're in a messed up world but we're not there just yet.
Otherwise the likes of Dirk Kuyt would be top of everyone's bucket list.

 

[RedRonaldo]

He'd take it allright, the question is why would Bayern who don't want to extend Lewa due to his age sign Ronaldo at a similar wage who's 4 years older and at least a level below as a player at the moment? Makes zero sense.

I didn't know Bayern doesn't want to extend Lewandowski, thought its the other way round, Lewandwoski wants to leave Bayern for new challenge.

 

[MrEleson]

How are you making such guarantees out of interest, bearing in mind there's posters on here with 50-60 years support.
Or were you just suggesting the guy you responded to was a casual?

It was more tongue in cheek. But I did just assume he was a casual.

 

[MrEleson]

Seems like with Bayern it’s the board with the problem while the coach will accept. While with Chelsea it’s the coach with the problem while the board will accept. Funny that.

 

[Rolaholic]

Makes sense given that Tuchel is a much better coach and Bayern's execs know about football much better than Chelsea's new American sugar daddy

 

[George The Best]

He’s got to break the impasse sooner or later. Can’t keep claiming compassionate leave for ever.

 

[Phil Osophy]

Kahn (their general director) said days ago that "he respects Ronaldo as one of the greats but he doesn't fit in their philosophy". In the original article from kicker they say the following (translation by google):

But what does Kahn mean when he says Ronaldo doesn't fit into the club's philosophy? On the one hand, there is the age of the 37-year-old. Bayern Munich do not sign players who are almost at the end of their careers. When they did this in 2014 with the then 32-year-old Xabi Alonso, the decision-makers were still Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Matthias Sammer and Pep Guardiola.

Internally, it is also believed that Ronaldo would shake up the club and the team structure due to his prominence, his salary and his sporting self-image. In addition, the people of Munich know that it was difficult with Ronaldo in the final stages of his second engagement in Turin and last year at Manchester United - despite his goals. For example, he likes to stay out of pressing and counter-pressing.

Cristiano Ronaldo would still have had charm in Munich. A marketing machine would have come with the footballer, new partners could have been found and his jerseys would have been bestsellers. Key word: refinancing. The attention for the club would have been immense with this pop star. Beyond the club decision-makers, some in the club could have imagined Ronaldo very well in the team, kicker learned. In vain, as Kahn clearly states.

https://www.kicker.de/kahn-sagt-cristiano-ronaldo-ab-907958/artikel

More or less what we're saying here. Too old, big salary, "can shake up the club and the team structure", doesn't press nor counterpress, all while they admit his powerful commercial pull.

If they were ruled by a more commercial-driven people like us I could see them giving it a try for one year seeing that the forwards' market is complicated, but they're serious football people it seems. Such a shame.

 

[Phil Osophy]

Sainz is well connected with Mendes. The two interesting bits in his article (translated by google):

As AS has learned, the new property of the English club has a great interest in taking over the Portuguese star. Todd Boehly wants to make a splash by signing the five-time Ballon d'Or. At the opposite pole, however, is Thomas Tuchel. The German coach is not convinced that the arrival of the Portuguese is positive for the group and considers that his signing could break the ecosystem of a team that was European champion two seasons ago.

On the other hand, Bayern is also divided around the figure of Cristiano. Coach Julian Nagelsmann would welcome Cristiano's signing if Lewandowski left the club for Barcelona, but an important sector of Bayern's leaders is at the opposite pole. This more conservative sector considers that at 37 years old, Cristiano is no longer in a position to perform at his highest level.

https://as.com/futbol/internacional/division-frontal-por-cristiano-n/

It's curious how this line:
"The German coach is not convinced that the arrival of the Portuguese is positive for the group and considers that his signing could break the ecosystem of a team that was European champion two seasons ago."

seems to be similar to this one from the previous german article:
"Internally, it is also believed that Ronaldo would shake up the club and the team structure due to his prominence, his salary and his sporting self-image. In addition, the people of Munich know that it was difficult with Ronaldo in the final stages of his second engagement in Turin and last year at Manchester United - despite his goals. For example, he likes to stay out of pressing and counter-pressing."

It's interesting to know that both clubs suspect he could be a disruptive figure. Now I know I'm not crazy when I reach the same conclusions.

 

[Someone]

How long is it ok for someone to miss pre season like that? He's still getting paid isn't he?

He made such a fool of himself by asking to leave without securing a deal with another club first. He's a laughing stock now. I don't want him back either. Won't be easy replacing his goals but I'd rather a fresh start.

 

[Stack]

How long is it ok for someone to miss pre season like that? He's still getting paid isn't he?

He made such a fool of himself by asking to leave without securing a deal with another club first. He's a laughing stock now. I don't want him back either. Won't be easy replacing his goals but I'd rather a fresh start.

Sounds like there are actually real family issues having to take priority.

 

[unplayable]

Apparently has an offer from a team in Saudi Arabia.

According to the published information, Arabia's offer trying to convince the Portuguese international would give Manchester United 30 million euros for the transfer, while waiting for the Portuguese international are 250 million euros in salaries, divided into two seasons: 125 each season. The remaining 20 million would be for intermediation.

No chance that this is happening imo.

 

[Berbaclass]

Apparently has an offer from a team in Saudi Arabia.

According to the published information, Arabia's offer trying to convince the Portuguese international would give Manchester United 30 million euros for the transfer, while waiting for the Portuguese international are 250 million euros in salaries, divided into two seasons: 125 each season. The remaining 20 million would be for intermediation.

No chance that this is happening imo.

Fecking hell please Ronaldo

 

[Berbaclass]

What's the source like anyone?

 

[Adnan]

Apparently has an offer from a team in Saudi Arabia.

According to the published information, Arabia's offer trying to convince the Portuguese international would give Manchester United 30 million euros for the transfer, while waiting for the Portuguese international are 250 million euros in salaries, divided into two seasons: 125 each season. The remaining 20 million would be for intermediation.

No chance that this is happening imo.

 

[Gandalf]

In the words of Mrs. Doyle, "Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on."

 

[Nero]

What CL pot are they in?

 

[Berbaclass]

What CL pot are they in?

Whichever one they buy

 

[Bastian]

Take the money and run Ronnie

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Apparently has an offer from a team in Saudi Arabia.

According to the published information, Arabia's offer trying to convince the Portuguese international would give Manchester United 30 million euros for the transfer, while waiting for the Portuguese international are 250 million euros in salaries, divided into two seasons: 125 each season. The remaining 20 million would be for intermediation.

No chance that this is happening imo.

Newcastle ain't in the CL.

 

[Bastian]

 

[Berbaclass]

 

[Salt Bailly]

Bin him off and promote Ronalod. He's ready.

 

[Rolaholic]

That Saudi offer would most likely help make him the first billionaire football star but highly doubt his ego let's him do it as it would be waving the white flag on his European club footy career while he's still got something left all while his main rival plays for one of the best sides in the world.

It would be a coup for us getting double our money for him but no chance in hell it happens.

 

[Mickeza]

Teams from Saudi Arabia have a route to the world club championships right? It’s so crazy I can see it happening.

 

[Berbaclass]

That Saudi offer would most likely make him the first billionaire football star but highly doubt his ego let's him do it as it would be waving the white flag on his European club footy career while he's still got something left all while his main rival plays for one of the best sides in the world.

It would be a coup for us getting double our money for him but no chance in hell it happens.

But it's €250 million euros

 

[Brophs]

"I didn't say which Champions League I wanted to challenge for......but no, in answer to your question, I don't condone the murdering of journalists by states."