Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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I genuinely can’t believe how ignorant people can be. The man just lost a baby and his mother had a stroke not long ago. And people still would rather believe he is on strike than believe reality. He has family issues, he has gone to Madrid and that’s where his girlfriends family resides, it makes perfect sense.

Im sure Mendes is exploring all the options, that’s normal. It’s literally his job to do that because you never know what can happen in football.

Give him time. He will be back, the manager wants him back.

I agree.

It just seems baffling that his agent seems to have leaked all this leaving stuff at the exact same point though, naturally making a lot of fans think the absence is connected.
 
I genuinely can’t believe how ignorant people can be. The man just lost a baby and his mother had a stroke not long ago. And people still would rather believe he is on strike than believe reality. He has family issues, he has gone to Madrid and that’s where his girlfriends family resides, it makes perfect sense.

Im sure Mendes is exploring all the options, that’s normal. It’s literally his job to do that because you never know what can happen in football.

Give him time. He will be back, the manager wants him back.

 
Nice to see Ten Hag definitively state that McGuire will be captain. Cristiano will have to accept that because Ten Hag appears to be the type of guy who won't put up with a primadonna attitude.

I truly thought we'd seen an end to this dimwittery :lol:
 
Whether his family issues are true or not, Ronnie's desire is/was to leave. You don't brief the media and have a drastically reduced presence in the club's new kit launch otherwise.

I still believe that "family issue" is one of the few things that would allow him to skip pre-season with minimal financial repercussions for both the club and player.
 
Chelsea (Tuchel) is against buying him.
Bayern refused him.

He doesn't have many options left. He is stuck here and we are stuck with him
 
No one wants the Ronaldo show when the Ronaldo show has taken his last two clubs backwards.
Ronaldo did not take Juve backwards. Juve only did poorly in his final season due to their poor signings during his time there. Excluding Ronaldo, they spent nearly €450 million in 3 seasons without anything to show for it. Their coaches changed with every season he was there: Allegri (cycle had ended - played painful football throughout season, did not want Ronaldo), Sarri (poor tactics, players disliked him, won the league thanks to CR7 and Dybala) and Pirlo (poor tactics, poor motivator). Where are Juventus now?

Ronaldo did not take United backwards any more than signing Sancho & Varane did. Ole's cycle had ended because he was a mediocre tactician and a poor motivator. United hired a poor caretaker in Ragnick and the team fell apart. Ronaldo did well to become the 3rd highest scorer in the league.

An accusation against him is that he was responsible for reducing United's overall goals - who would have scored those goals? Why did they not score those goals when Ronaldo did not play? With Ronaldo, Juventus averaged 75 goals in Serie A. Last year they scored less than 60 goals. Why did this happen? Surely if Ronaldo was 'stealing' the teams goals, they would have scored at least 70 goals. How come star signing Vlahovic hit only 7 goals in 16 league games? I thought Ronaldo leaving would have freed midfielders/attackers to pass the ball around freely.

No one wants the 37 year old because of his wages and demands to play all games. Not because he took anyone backwards.
 
Ronaldo did not take Juve backwards. Juve only did poorly in his final season due to their poor signings during his time there. Excluding Ronaldo, they spent nearly €450 million in 3 seasons without anything to show for it. Their coaches changed with every season he was there: Allegri (cycle had ended - played painful football throughout season, did not want Ronaldo), Sarri (poor tactics, players disliked him, won the league thanks to CR7 and Dybala) and Pirlo (poor tactics, poor motivator). Where are Juventus now?

Ronaldo did not take United backwards any more than signing Sancho & Varane did. Ole's cycle had ended because he was a mediocre tactician and a poor motivator. United hired a poor caretaker in Rangnick and the team fell apart. Ronaldo did well to become the 3rd highest scorer in the league.

An accusation against him is that he was responsible for reducing United's overall goals - who would have scored those goals? Why did they not score those goals when Ronaldo did not play? With Ronaldo, Juventus averaged 75 goals in Serie A. Last year they scored less than 60 goals. Why did this happen? Surely if Ronaldo was 'stealing' the teams goals, they would have scored at least 70 goals. How come star signing Vlahovic hit only 7 goals in 16 league games? I thought Ronaldo leaving would have freed midfielders/attackers to pass the ball around freely.

No one wants the 37 year old because of his wages and demands to play all games. Not because he took anyone backwards.
To quote Rangnick
"Cristiano Ronaldo, and I’m not blaming him at all, he did great in those games," he said. "But he’s not a pressing monster. He’s not a player, even when he was a young player, who was crying, shouting 'hooray, the other team has got the ball, where can we win balls?"

Ronaldo limits his team tactically, imagine Liverpool, City, Bayern without the pressing from their forwards, then all of a sudden you need to sit deeper and deeper, it has a domino effect on the rest of the team when statistically its like playing with 10 men without the ball. it was worth it when he was averaging 50 goals, but a 20+ a season Ronaldo isn't worth it.
Its the opportunity cost that set his team backwards.
 


@Top Do you still have the Original animated gif? I remember this from the old days.

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Ronaldo limits his team tactically, imagine Liverpool, City, Bayern without the pressing from their forwards
Ronaldo does not limit any of his teams tactically. Immediately prior to and after his joining, Madrid, Juve and United were never considered pressing teams. In fact Juve was an expert at sitting deep and hitting teams on the breakaway. They hardly ever pressed in the opposition half.
Lewandowski closes passing lanes in the center column, but he doesn't press for Bayern or Poland at all.

This whole concept of pressing is a media-myth created by the English press after over-grandizing the playing styles of Guardiola and Klopp (2 of the most dominant managers in recent history). PSG/Chelsea/Inter/Milan/Juve/Madrid/Atletico are not pressing monsters. They almost exclusively press inside their half unless there is a specific phase of play. Pressing is not the only tactic.
 
Ronaldo does not limit any of his teams tactically. Immediately prior to and after his joining, Madrid, Juve and United were never considered pressing teams. In fact Juve was an expert at sitting deep and hitting teams on the breakaway. They hardly ever pressed in the opposition half.
Lewandowski closes passing lanes in the center column, but he doesn't press for Bayern or Poland at all.

This whole concept of pressing is a media-myth created by the English press after over-grandizing the playing styles of Guardiola and Klopp (2 of the most dominant managers in recent history). PSG/Chelsea/Inter/Milan/Juve/Madrid/Atletico are not pressing monsters. They almost exclusively press inside their half unless there is a specific phase of play. Pressing is not the only tactic.
Its not just pressing its defending in general and not just that its the other duties of a center forward.
Hold up play, link up play, working the channels, he falls behind in all this categories.
The only things he brings are those goals he gets literally, and it isn't good enough when you consider his wages, demand to always play and the need to work around his weaknesses.
It is a limitation on the team tactical flexibility.
Having a center forward who can't hold the ball up or can't run the channels either, if you play him wide then you need one of your midfielder covering for him defensively, all for what?
 


They've been quite public in saying they don't want him...

Another utter trash source, "tuttomercatoweb". Ronaldo is not, and was never, coming to Bayern and I'm pretty sure neither Ronaldo nor Mendes are in any doubts about it. And for fecks sake, Mendes didn't meet with Barca to get them to sign Lewandowski whom he is not representing :lol:.

And if anyone's wondering, when Kahn talks about "not fitting our philosophy" he does not mean that Ronaldo doesn't press or anything like that, but that we don't want to afford salaries like that. Philosophy = finances in German.
 
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It’s becoming increasingly more evident that he should be given the benefit of doubt that he’s out of the team for real family reasons. Also considering he still played for Juve up till and including their first league match of the season despite wanting out.
 

Good news. Most likely face saving given there are no realistic destinations for him but given that we need him for next season despite what some people on here would have you believe, it is good news.
 
There's a lot of bad feeling now with this whole business and he's certainly behaved like a jerk but Ronaldo for one more year wouldn't be so bad as it allows us to concentrate on other areas of the team.

If we're truly serious about rebuilding the team to be at least title challengers (never mind top 4 qualifiers) then we have a heck of a lot of work to do and it's not going to be fixed in just two transfer windows with the current quality of this squad.
 
I’ve bashed Ronaldo almost as much as anyone and didn’t want him here last summer but I honestly don’t care either way provided ETH gets to make the decision and it’s a footballing one. There really is a massive dearth of quality strikers around.
 
Arnold impressed by being sympathetic to his discontent and let his representatives speak to other clubs. Either those other clubs weren't interested or they were and Arnold is blocking them which surely wouldn't impress so much. That's an article from Ronaldo's camp that basically admits that they couldn't find a buyer.
 
Arnold impressed by being sympathetic to his discontent and let his representatives speak to other clubs. Either those other clubs weren't interested or they were and Arnold is blocking them which surely wouldn't impress so much. That's an article from Ronaldo's camp that basically admits that they couldn't find a buyer.

Yeah pretty evident no one wants him. Would love for us to say 'Nah your alright, you don't match our ambition'
 
Arnold impressed by being sympathetic to his discontent and let his representatives speak to other clubs. Either those other clubs weren't interested or they were and Arnold is blocking them which surely wouldn't impress so much. That's an article from Ronaldo's camp that basically admits that they couldn't find a buyer.
Yep, think they don't have a taker.

This is now a marriage of convenience for both parties. I am sure our data analytics guy and any new scouts will go into overdrive on the striker search for the coming year.
 
Well that’s that

Really was hoping we could find a club who wanted Ronaldo but also not surprised
 
Just had a precognitive vision.....


Ronaldo giving Frenkie and Erikson a ride in his private jet to Australia.

The three of them all dolled up, collars up, having a laugh wrapped up in leather chairs....feet up, bottle of Crystal on the table...

Yep. Here they come, the three whiteboy amigos coming down under.
 
Yeah pretty evident no one wants him. Would love for us to say 'Nah your alright'
Yep. We should tell him we’ve already allocated his dressing room peg to Anthony. In fact I’d love it if Arnold handed the whole thing like that scene in Hot Fuzz where Nicholas refuses to leave, storms into the office only to find they’re already having his leaving do.
 
No one wants him. Surprise, surprise.

I do believe he is going through family issues - maybe time off to support wife post miscarriage. Hopefully he can join up for the Australia leg.
 
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