Sviken
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There is no such thing as pressing "individually". A team either has a pressing system or not. Bruno and Cavani are headless chickens when they run, that's not pressing as it is understood. The idea of pressing is a very particular system of play, not something a random individual does. This is something you're still unable to understand. Were we a pressing team last season or the season before that, even with one of the hardest working forwards in the history of the game? Nope. I also gave acutely gave you the example with Chelsea who are very similar to us and how Lukaku not pressing is not exactly a problem for them, is it? Every player has its strengths and weaknesses. Ronaldo was never a good presser. Didn't stop him from being the backbone of 5 CL's. A good manager uses each player as to their strengths. You're frustratated, it is clear to see. You see Klopp's team and say "well, why can't we play that way?" and look for an easy solution. It seems you've found it. The reason we're playing like a bunch of clowns is because Ronaldo doesn't press. Okay, but it is bullshit. Most of our goals in the Liverpool game had nothing to do with Ronaldo, in fact, unless your idea is that he is at fault for not organizing the defence and midfield. And what abotu before Ronaldo? Who do you blame for opposition players bulldozing through our midfield and defence all the time? You can't blame Ronaldo's pressing there because he wasn't even here, so I'm curious.You don't need to be a bloody pressing team!
The fact is Ronaldo is not a central striker and he doesn't even position himself as one - he positions himself away from the CB'S because he is like Arjen Robben that turned striker when he lost pace, he is a winger who wants to play slightly off an angle.
What this does is give the CB'S all the time in the world to pick the perfect pass. Ronaldo is not central enough.
People seem to think that Klopp invented pressing or some shit. His team gegenpressing where everyone in the team press at the same time is not what is done by alot of clubs in the world and most clubs in the world. In a 4231 however, the player closest to the ball does go for a press and the player closest to the CB'S is usually the number 9 striker so he by himself goes for a press.
Ronaldo doesn't even press - which is fine but he doesn't even position himself centrally because he plays at a LW/LF angle - which gives all the time in the world to the CB'S to do what they want.
Cavani when he played pressed 13.5 times a game - ten times more a game than Ronaldo but more importantly he positions himself centrally so the ball playing CB'S do not have a freedom. We might not press as a team but we can press individually and whoever is closest to the ball. Rashford/Greenwood or even the winger version of Ronaldo not pressing means what? It's just the fullback and all he can do is either decide to take on Greenwood/the winger or go back to his CB.
However not having a striker blocking the lane of the CB'S means the CB'S has all the choice in the world to spread the ball across all their defensive line and wait until the midfield opens up and make the perfect pass.
I showed you Cavani's heat map.
this is Martial's heat map. Shows you how in one position Ronaldo can be even compared to someone like Martial.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...still-struggling-to-fulfil-his-true-potential
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