This is very true.
It's also a very underrated aspect of (prime) Rooney's game. Not all players with his talent and attacking prowess are able to take a backseat role - relatively speaking - to someone else.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
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This is very true.
It's also a very underrated aspect of (prime) Rooney's game. Not all players with his talent and attacking prowess are able to take a backseat role - relatively speaking - to someone else.
“I’d start Lingard and Scott has done well.”
“I like Harry he’s had a bad season but he’s a world class centre back.”
Can’t find the Shaw one, but not encouraging for a person like me who wants him in charge in the future
Yeah, Ronaldo is for me the greatest of all time (yes, above Messi), but he’s been blessed to play alongside Rooney and Benzema. You can’t really ask for better strike partners as the kind of player Ronaldo was, world class strikers who were willing to defer to him but also win a game for his team on the rare occasion he wasn’t able to do so.
Rooney only took a backseat role because Ronaldo was just that much better than him. It wasn’t like Ronaldo was randomly favoured; he established his authority in the team through his own merit.
If anything, Rooney was actually the one that was being pushed to be the main man - by being the young, English prodigy that he was when he came to the club while Ronaldo was being overlooked as some diving, preening, showboater.
There seems to be a lot of revisionism about the 06-09 period thrown around here and I wonder how many people actually watched United during that era and aren’t just regurgitating common themes that they read on the internet.
Anyone that speaks ill of Ronaldo needs a Will Smith to the face.
“I’d start Lingard and Scott has done well.”
“I like Harry he’s had a bad season but he’s a world class centre back.”
Can’t find the Shaw one, but not encouraging for a person like me who wants him in charge in the future
Hmm...well.
Start Lingard? But where? In what role? He's usually been shite or anonymous for United out wide. And even the biggest Bruno critics would - presumably - not suggest that the solution is to replace him with Lingard. Most would say it would make feck all difference - or worse - if Ralf did start Lingard (without knowing precisely what role Rooney has in mind for him).
Harry? He likes him, which is fair enough. He's world class? No - he really isn't.
But if the idea behind the comment is that he's better than what he's shown this season, Rooney's right. He is not nearly as bad as some posters on here seem to think. But - again - he obviously isn't "world class" in any meaningful sense.
The - obvious - question is: did he single out these players himself, or was he asked about them specifically?
I would definitely agree that "I would start Lingard" and "Harry Maguire is world class" are statements that - in isolation - are worrying with the idea of him as a future United manager in mind.
Where was he before the Spurs game? He's also the reason why we dropped some of the points against cannon fodder in February and lost to Boro in the fa cup.
He's been so good for us in the EPL that you can literally count his best games on one hand fingers.
He has 10 non penalty goals in 24 league games and 3 of them came in his first 2 games. Before the Spurs hattrick he scored one goal in 8 league games. He’s been atrocious, why on earth is he beyond criticism?
He's had his stinkers yeah, along with every outfield player for utd this season, but he's still a class striker that's scored the vast majority of our important goals this season whilst feeding off scraps. If we had a functional centre midfield capable of picking his runs out from deep, and a sniff of consistency from our wingers and full backs then he'd have more goals and we'd be in a better position. He's been one of our only positives from this season, along with De Gea and Sancho.
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Yeah, watched it now.
No...I mean, no.
It's just generic bollocks, really - comes across as such.
Says he knows Harry personally - which immediately...yeah.
As for Lingard, he actually did mention him as someone who "should be playing" AND he did so as a response to a question about which YOUNG players United have who might be counted on going forward...so, no.
Sorry, Wayne - didn't come across very well there. Bland, at best.
(Does he actually think that Lingard is an up-and-coming player? And not someone who will turn 30 next season? I mean, we've all had a laugh about that thing many times - but feck me).
No...I mean, no.
It's just generic bollocks, really - comes across as such.
Says he knows Harry personally - which immediately...yeah.
As for Lingard, he actually did mention him as someone who "should be playing" AND he did so as a response to a question about which YOUNG players United have who might be counted on going forward...so, no.
Sorry, Wayne - didn't come across very well there. Bland, at best.
(Does he actually think that Lingard is an up-and-coming player? And not someone who will turn 30 next season? I mean, we've all had a laugh about that thing many times - but feck me).
If I was able to hand out ‘likes’ you’d definitely be getting one for this post, fella! Absolutely ridiculous to claim statistical significance with such a tiny sample size.
Agreed. Ronaldo is clearly not part of the solution as we rebuild the club, but I don’t think anyone argues this point.
Just not true at all. His goalscoring record is poor and he regularly goes on long spells without scoring. It wouldn’t even be as big a problem if he actually offered anything else but he’s literally a non factor when he doesn’t score. It’s like playing with a traffic cone up top, the service argument makes no sense at all because he does nothing to create separation from centre halves. It’s a shame because movement has always been his forte but in his current state he’s a defender’s dream, so easy to mark.
I get the impression that some fans are sad at the idea of him leaving while apart from a few games he's been doghsit. It's only that our other options are dogshit as well. But he's on the highest wages in the league and doesn't perform like a striker that earns that salary. Anyway we've been rebuilding forever. It seems every season is a rebuild. Obviously clinging to a 38 year old next season won't help that. But it's a rare situation that there so few great strikers in their young/prime years. Before this season Lukkaku was considered up there. There used to be Rooney, Villa, Aguero, Torres, Suarez, Ibra etc. Apart from Haaland and Mpbabbe it's hard to know where to look.
I think that's the best way to describe it. Obviously not part of the long term strategy but I think if we're going to have any chance of finishing this season with even a challenge of top 4 then quite simply we need him to be playing well like in the games against Spurs or Arsenal or the Champions league matches earlier this season. Even if he's not playing well but chipping in with poacher goals like in his first ten games here that would be a huge help.
It's a big ask for a 37 year old but if anyone can do it...
People can't just use stats this season for with and without Ronaldo saying that's proof that we were always going to be better with him than not.
The fact was that last season Ronaldo was not our main player. Our main player was Bruno fernandes and this directly and highly influences on how we play and our tactics.
Our main goal last season was to get the ball to Bruno fernandes feet. Our main goal this season was to get the ball to Ronaldo's feet or even head.
Do people think that our tactical training is going to be the same as it was last year when Bruno was our main player compared to what we do for training this year? Forget tactical training, from having practice playing with Ronaldo for nearly a whole season now - you can't just have him not play a game and expect the team to play a different way that suits a team without Ronaldo almost instantly.
Anyway, some people will get hurt talking negatively about Ronaldo acting like we have something against him when we do not.
The fact that Greenwood f*d up probably shows that signing Ronaldo wasn't going to be the ultimate cause for a negative this season with or without him.
The fact was that last season Ronaldo was not our main player. Our main player was Bruno fernandes and this directly and highly influences on how we play and our tactics.
Our main goal last season was to get the ball to Bruno fernandes feet. Our main goal this season was to get the ball to Ronaldo's feet or even head.
Do people think that our tactical training is going to be the same as it was last year when Bruno was our main player compared to what we do for training this year? Forget tactical training, from having practice playing with Ronaldo for nearly a whole season now - you can't just have him not play a game and expect the team to play a different way that suits a team without Ronaldo almost instantly.
Anyway, some people will get hurt talking negatively about Ronaldo acting like we have something against him when we do not.
The fact that Greenwood f*d up probably shows that signing Ronaldo wasn't going to be the ultimate cause for a negative this season with or without him.
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He does nothing? Traffic cone? Since Rangnick's come in his off the ball movement has been as good as anyones. His link up play is still up to standard as well. There's been games where his touch has been off and he's rushed his shots due to his age and maybe even a loss of confidence, but he's still been our best outfield player this season.
Did anyone see Ronaldo commenting under Rooney's IG post? Embarrassing stuff.
What's the story because its a real reply
Rooney criticised Ronaldo on Monday Night football saying he hasn’t been a good signing and this is Ronaldo’s response to that.
Rooney criticised Ronaldo
He should get his weight under control first before criticizing one of the best players of all time.Rooney criticised Ronaldo
This
It’s fake there’s nothing on Rooney or Ronaldo’s Twitter..
Just checked Rooney's Instagram post, it's real, Ronaldo's reply is still there.
Many of our players can't seem to handle criticism. Their egos are fragile as feck
Its Instagram and it real
Oh yeah just seen it, it is real. To be fair Rooney was a bit of a twat about him on Monday night football and in general recently.
Some people actually think Ronaldo sits on his phone watching videos of MNF and leaving comments...
Look at Rooney at 36 v Ronaldo at 37.. says everything.
Hope Ronny sticks a hattrick past Everton this weekend sending them on their way to relegation.
Hope Ronny sticks a hattrick past Everton this weekend sending them on their way to relegation.
Well it is there in black and white, don’t think he’d give his PR people responsibility to beef with Rooney on Instagram.
This is the biggest difference between last season and now. Elanga isnt half the player.
Some people actually think Rooney sits on his phone posting football emoticons and tagging Jamie Carragher...
If I was Ronaldo I'd publicly ask Rooney why he isn't playing now and offer him a diet/workout plan - first month free as they were such great teammates and all.
I know totally unthinkable right a human being on his phone, what kind of ludicrosity is this.
Rooney criticised Ronaldo
Absolutely moronic post. Belittling an actual club legend because he spoke truth about the re-signing of a Real Madrid legend. Have a word with yourself.
This thread is embarrassing.
Oh no Rooney upset the Ronaldo fans. Whatever will he do.
But he's twice the man.
He's dedicated, trains hard and seems like a good guy in general.
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