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Ronaldo’s goalscoring isn’t the issue. It’s his contribution to the overall game. He’s already scored 18 goals this season and that’s a good tally.And Ronaldo scored 36 last season.
No it doesn’t it suggests Juventus aren’t the team the once were.Ronaldo’s goalscoring isn’t the issue. It’s his contribution to the overall game. He’s already scored 18 goals this season and that’s a good tally.
But with Juventus he was in the best squad of the Italian league and they barely scrapped the top 4 finish. It suggests he was part of a wider problem.
Sure come back to me when Vlahovic picks up his fifth Ballon D’Or or fifth Champion’s League medal sure.
If Rashford, Martial, and Cavani performed at 80% of their previous levels, we would be in the top 4 and through to the next round in the Champions League. Not to mention being suddenly without Greenwood.I’m implying that he’s the better player who could actually be relied on consistently. And not just now but in the future as well. Rather than a 37 year old publicity stunt.
Sure come back to me when Vlahovic picks up his fifth Ballon D’Or or fifth Champion’s League medal sure.
Sure come back to me when Vlahovic picks up his fifth Ballon D’Or or fifth Champion’s League medal sure.
And that’s partly because of CR7 being given such a central role in the team, and keeping that role even with his overall level declining. It’s similar to what’s happening here now… Even though we were already poor before him… He actually got us out of the group stage, which is better than last year’s result.No it doesn’t it suggests Juventus aren’t the team the once were.
You’re the one saying he’s a better player.What the feck does that have to do with this season ? Or next season ? Or the one after that ?
You’re the one saying he’s a better player.
Not as much as you after Ronaldo scored a hat trick last week, though..He is. Right now. And will be. For years to come.
Are you gonna cry ?
Not as much as you after Ronaldo scored a hat trick last week, though..
You can’t blame it all on Ronaldo though, who if you add everything up arguably comes out as our best player over the course of this season. I mean everyone on the Caf is saying we shouldn’t keep more than two-three players out the squad, how was Ronaldo ever going to succeed or any striker for that matter?The present is the present, the past is the past.
Messi and Ronaldo are done at top level, it doesn't matter how many Balloon D'ors they have, United might as well sign old Van Basten or Platini if we are talking about individual accolades earned in the past.
Ronaldo didn't solve United issues , because it was a desperate move, if AC Milan would have been interested in him instead of City, United wouldn't have never signed him.
The fact that Ronaldo's legs and body are clearly failing him (and fair enough, he's 37!) is a massive issue. He can't realistically be relied upon to perform to an acceptable standard every game, which is what you need from your most highly paid, leading number 9.You’re the one saying he’s a better player.
In the real world we could’ve just bought Vlahovic instead of bailing Juve out of Ronaldo’s massive contract and effectively funding their purchase of Vlahovic.
I’m done with this discussion now if you can’t get that very simple point which I have made more times than I would like now.
He needs resting, but as I said above he’s arguably our best player and has had no support from Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood or Martial. I think he’s done a pretty decent job for us tbh all things considered and yes including age.The fact that Ronaldo's legs and body are clearly failing him (and fair enough, he's 37!) is a massive issue. He can't realistically be relied upon to perform to an acceptable standard every game, which is what you need from your most highly paid, leading number 9.
Sure come back to me when Vlahovic picks up his fifth Ballon D’Or or fifth Champion’s League medal sure.
He is not the problem but his ego is. He has to realise he can't play every minute of every game anymore. We should be using him once every week or two in the right situation, where he can be lethal. Playing twice a week just leaves us with an empty shell that can't keep up with the game.
He also needs to stop drifting. He adds nothing when he's hanging out on the touchline. Stay in the box and do what he's best at.
Ronaldo’s goalscoring isn’t the issue. It’s his contribution to the overall game. He’s already scored 18 goals this season and that’s a good tally.
But with Juventus he was in the best squad of the Italian league and they barely scrapped the top 4 finish. It suggests he was part of a wider problem.
Ronaldo’s goalscoring isn’t the issue. It’s his contribution to the overall game. He’s already scored 18 goals this season and that’s a good tally.
But with Juventus he was in the best squad of the Italian league and they barely scrapped the top 4 finish. It suggests he was part of a wider problem.
I thought he did very well in the first half. Anonymous after half time. He was running on empty. Nothing left in the tank. I’m going to say this after every match. He’s 37 years old. The expectation he could or should play every match is absolute madness.
I completely agree with this but really the problem is who do we play in the games we rest Ronaldo? Rashford is atrocious at the moment, greenwood is almost certainly never playing for the club again, martial is out on loan, really who are we left with? I mean to be honest, imagining what this season would have been like without the last minute clearly unplanned Ronaldo doesn't bear thinking about, with cavani permanently crocked and the rest out of form or having been arrested
At the age of 36. And offers absolutely nothing Vlahovic does on and off the ball. And guess who has scored more goals this season and who will score more for seasons to come.
You're living in fantasy land. We weren't signing anyone else if we didn't sign Ronaldo. We were rolling as we were and he became available. There's no point saying ah we'd have better if we signed x y z. We weren't signing anyone, it's a pointless discussionIn the real world we could’ve just bought Vlahovic instead of bailing Juve out of Ronaldo’s massive contract and effectively funding their purchase of Vlahovic.
I’m done with this discussion now if you can’t get that very simple point which I have made more times than I would like now.
It doesn't even need answered. We weren't signing him so why even discuss him, and if we are why ask the same question about mbappe or halaand or benzema or Harry kane or Pele for that matter.The only actual question that needs answering, is would this Vlahovic score more for THIS United team than Ronaldo does.
And there's no conclusive answer on that.
In the real world we could’ve just bought Vlahovic instead of bailing Juve out of Ronaldo’s massive contract and effegone ctively funding their purchase of Vlahovic.
I’m done with this discussion now if you can’t get that very simple point which I have made more times than I would like now.
In the real world we could’ve just bought Vlahovic instead of bailing Juve out of Ronaldo’s massive contract and effectively funding their purchase of Vlahovic.
I’m done with this discussion now if you can’t get that very simple point which I have made more times than I would like now.
How did Ronaldo do last night?How did Vlahovic do tonight?
The only actual question that needs answering, is would this Vlahovic score more for THIS United team than Ronaldo does.
And there's no conclusive answer on that.
You're living in fantasy land. We weren't signing anyone else if we didn't sign Ronaldo. We were rolling as we were and he became available. There's no point saying ah we'd have better if we signed x y z. We weren't signing anyone, it's a pointless discussion
In the real world we didn't have £70m to spend last summer, and if we did it probably would have been spent on a midfielder.
This is a pretty ludicrous position to be honest, rather than signing Ronaldo why didn't we spend £70m on a different player.
In the same vein, inside of signing Sancho we would have just got mbappe,
Other than PSG or Sporting, not really sure where else he can go other than a commercial move somewhere but you get the feeling Ronnie is so obsessed with personal stats, champions league goals that his ego won't let him take the easier route.
He is not the problem but his ego is. He has to realise he can't play every minute of every game anymore. We should be using him once every week or two in the right situation, where he can be lethal. Playing twice a week just leaves us with an empty shell that can't keep up with the game.
He also needs to stop drifting. He adds nothing when he's hanging out on the touchline. Stay in the box and do what he's best at.
This is a bit of amusing that people keep repeating that based on rumors and 'reports'. But on the other hand, most players, even Martial, denied this.He will deliver some moments of brilliance, as last weekend, but still believe he was the wrong signing. He doesnt help the team, and when he is poor or marked out of game like last night he offers nothing. Too slow when he drifts out wide. Huge waste of money, unsettles dressing room. Need to go in summer so we can focus on a proper rebuild.
He's not going to PSG. Our fans booed Messi during the last game to protest against the owner getting old legends, if they decide to get a close to finished Ronaldo they'll be rioting.
He would’ve added much more to our play both on and off the ball so would need to have been quite poor in front of goal to be any worse overall. Never mind the fact that he would be doing it next year and the next for us as well.
How is it pointless. The club should have been adding more, including midfield. Vlahovic is just an example and a very obvious one at that being Juve replaced Ronaldo with him.
And my feet are and were firmly on the ground. It was the club and fans living in fantasy land re-signing a 37 year old and painting him as some sort of savior.
We spent £20m and massive wages on Ronaldo. In the real world. So suffice to say your position is pretty ludicrous. And the Mbappe comment is just straw man stupidity.
Whether it was Vlahovic or Rice or whoever we would’ve been better served than blowing it on a 37 year old retread.
