[KirkDuyt]

I think it's quite clear that while Ronaldo isn't suddenly a dogshit player, the fact that the team with him in it still operates as if he's the world's best player is kind of hamstringing it. Everything is centered around getting Ronaldo in position when he's on the field and he's simply not good enough to warrant that anymore. United have plenty of attacking quality with Bruno, Pogba and Rashford, but they all seem to lose a bit of shine once the big man enters the field.

Ronaldo's greatest quality is also a bit of a downfall now that he's old. He always want to play, wants to get the ball and wants to score the goals. Instead it would be good for him to realise that he should sit a game out once in a while and maybe pick his battles on the pitch a bit more sparsely rather than wanting everything to go to or through him.

The hissyfit face he keeps throwing though. Kill me now.

 

[Deery]

The goals will come, he had 3 good chances to score last night in 20 minutes. That’s the most clear cut chances he’s had for a while.

 

[Gehrman]

I think it's quite clear that while Ronaldo isn't suddenly a dogshit player, the fact that the team with him in it still operates as if he's the world's best player is kind of hamstringing it. Everything is centered around getting Ronaldo in position when he's on the field and he's simply not good enough to warrant that anymore. United have plenty of attacking quality with Bruno, Pogba and Rashford, but they all seem to lose a bit of shine once the big man enters the field.

Ronaldo's greatest quality is also a bit of a downfall now that he's old. He always want to play, wants to get the ball and wants to score the goals. Instead it would be good for him to realise that he should sit a game out once in a while and maybe pick his battles on the pitch a bit more sparsely rather than wanting everything to go to or through him.

The hissyfit face he keeps throwing though. Kill me now.

I don't actually mind players showing some frustation. Ronaldo might be frustrated with himself as well. However if you direct it at the team, you also have to be one of the best performers on the pitch.

 

[Gehrman]

The goals will come, he had 3 good chances to score last night in 20 minutes. That’s the most clear cut chances he’s had for a while.

I think our general play has been improving, but our scoring hasn't despite our players getting better chances. I think Ronaldo will soon find his scoring boots again.

 

[giggs-beckham]

How can you doubt it when last season in Juve (who were not that great) he scored over 30.

Now at United he is struggling more is it the player or is it the club? Like I said…30+ goals last season.

But sure “because of my club their is bias” and not the fact that I am giving you facts.

Plus he still had that scoring knack at the start of the season. He's lost his confidence in my opinion.

 

[Moonwalker]

He's lost his confidence in my opinion.

He needs more superstitious rituals to get it back. It's guaranteed to work.

 

[Gehrman]

How can you doubt it when last season in Juve (who were not that great) he scored over 30.

Now at United he is struggling more is it the player or is it the club? Like I said…30+ goals last season.

But sure “because of my club their is bias” and not the fact that I am giving you facts.

Different league, disjointed team and managerial situation. It's both the team and the player. Lukkaku did fairly well at Inter last season but is not doing great at Chelsea. Also Seria A has felt somewhat like a retirement league for great players for quite a while now. Ronaldo's decline in ability has been apparent for some time now as is expected. I have no doubt that if we start dominating games more and create better chances he'll score more obviously.

 

[Bebestation]

I think it's quite clear that while Ronaldo isn't suddenly a dogshit player, the fact that the team with him in it still operates as if he's the world's best player is kind of hamstringing it. Everything is centered around getting Ronaldo in position when he's on the field and he's simply not good enough to warrant that anymore. United have plenty of attacking quality with Bruno, Pogba and Rashford, but they all seem to lose a bit of shine once the big man enters the field.

Ronaldo's greatest quality is also a bit of a downfall now that he's old. He always want to play, wants to get the ball and wants to score the goals. Instead it would be good for him to realise that he should sit a game out once in a while and maybe pick his battles on the pitch a bit more sparsely rather than wanting everything to go to or through him.

The hissyfit face he keeps throwing though. Kill me now.

This. Perfectly said.

 

[lenny_1248]

Would be better for everyone if he leaves this summer.
Hopefully, Zidane takes over PSG and takes him cause no other big team will want him.

 

[Matt851]

Would be better for everyone if he leaves this summer.
Hopefully, Zidane takes over PSG and takes him cause no other big team will want him.

Except whoever were to take him on an astronomical salary, which is why its u likely to happen

 

[UnofficialDevil]

He’s 37 now

 

[Gehrman]

Would be better for everyone if he leaves this summer.
Hopefully, Zidane takes over PSG and takes him cause no other big team will want him.

Messi and Ronaldo at this age wouldn't work well.

 

[LoneStar]

So with him and Cavani in decline, we should definitely aim for a new striker in the summer. So that’s 1RB, one or two CMs and a striker that we need to buy at a minimum. If we sell Martial and Lingard leaves in the summer, we might need another attacker too. Rashford, Sancho and Elanga is way too thin.

 

[Sylar]

The bit at the end had me laughing. It was a poor touch, but then to shoot how he did

So with him and Cavani in decline, we should definitely aim for a new striker in the summer. So that’s 1RB, one or two CMs and a striker that we need to buy at a minimum. If we sell Martial and Lingard leaves in the summer, we might need another attacker too. Rashford, Sancho and Elanga is way too thin.

An issue every year. We always need four signings just to try and compete ...

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Five games without a goal now. This is his longest drought for 12 years.

One day can we please buy a world class striker that is in (or pre) their prime not hopelessly past it??

 

[Devil_forever]

Five games without a goal now. This is his longest drought for 12 years.

One day can we please buy a world class striker that is in (or pre) their prime not hopelessly past it??

Maybe if we had players who could offer him some decent service, who could cross a ball, it might help.

 

[the_cliff]

Maybe if we had players who could offer him some decent service, who could cross a ball, it might help.

Just the last game in 20 minutes he had 2 headers that he should've scored from. Missed a penalty and plenty of chances against Boro.

Not sure what you mean by service. Do you want Rashford/Sancho to dribble the whole team and leave the ball on the goal line for Ronaldo to boot in ?

 

[Gehrman]

Five games without a goal now. This is his longest drought for 12 years.

One day can we please buy a world class striker that is in (or pre) their prime not hopelessly past it??

5 games isnt much tbh although its something.

 

[Anustart89]

Maybe if we had players who could offer him some decent service, who could cross a ball, it might help.

Five years ago he buries the two headers he had last night. It’s obvious that he’s regressed massively. Anyone claiming it’s not him and is just a matter of the service he’s getting is lying to themselves.

 

[Skyhightrees]

Cristiano Ronaldo throws another strop as Man Utd superstar fires blank vs Burnley in worst goal drought in a DECADE


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...ce=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...onaldo-strop-goal-drought-man-united-burnley/


People don't realise footballers are human. And lose confidence. Especially strikers when they are not scoring goals and have headlines like that rammed down their throats about longest goal drought in 10 YEARS!

like I said, this is happening on Rangnick's watch. He was scoring loads for Ole and Carrick. You have to ask why his goal output with Rangnick is non-existent.. but none of the media or armchair football managers will look deeper and look at Rangnicks tactics and if he's tiring Ronaldo out etc so he's too tired to score. Or if he's not playing Ronaldo in the right positions in terms of asking Ronaldo to drop deeper.. like show a heat map under Ole then Rangnick.

like I said in the match day thread..if Rangnick is the manager next season it's bye bye Ronaldo. Which some people might be happy with.

Ronaldo can still score loads of goals. But he needs a manager like Fergie when he told the other players to pass to him like Fergie did to Van Persie and build a team around RONALDO. Rangnick is treating Ronaldo like any other 37 year old player.. hence he feels disrespected by Rangnick.

So it's best for all parties if Ronaldo leaves at the end of the season I think. Ronaldo and his agent can hand-pick a club that will play to his strengths in the final years of his career. And win trophies. United can go another season trophyless with Rangnick (not the right man for this club) potentially as the manager.

You are so annoying. Are you 10 years old? Why do you speak for Ronaldo?

Why is he annoyed at Rangnick? He is probably annoyed at himself. Stop spewing bs and trying to make it Ronaldo vs World.

It’s just a drought, he will score soon. He is not anywhere close to done, just out of form. I can see it’s mental to him, something is bothering the guy and his football is suffering. IMO

 

[mad1max954]

I'm probably going to get pillaged for saying so but I think his legs have gone. For me, he doesn't move as freely especially over 5-10 yards and cant quite adjust himself. I do still think he will score goals for us as he is such an intelligent player - a once in generation player even, but those big numbers are behind him.

 

[el3mel]

I'm probably going to get pillaged for saying so but I think his legs have gone. For me, he doesn't move as freely especially over 5-10 yards and cant quite adjust himself. I do still think he will score goals for us as he is such an intelligent player - a once in generation player even, but those big numbers are behind him.

Ronaldo's legs have been gone for several years now, not just this year.

He's just a poacher now.

This signing has been a terrible mistake. He scored goals but we are stuck with a 37 years old immobile striker who is only getting worse from here. Terrible business.

Please for God sake, I hope we manage to move on from him in summer.

 

[Joel Miller]

Just the last game in 20 minutes he had 2 headers that he should've scored from. Missed a penalty and plenty of chances against Boro.

Not sure what you mean by service. Do you want Rashford/Sancho to dribble the whole team and leave the ball on the goal line for Ronaldo to boot in ?

It’s excuse after excuse with people who are clearly more interested in Ronaldo’s legacy and less so in United’s. Everybody’s fault but his. He’d have buried that header a few years ago but he’s ageing and clearly less confident than he was.

The reality is tailoring everything toward his goal scoring needs has been a hinderance. When you add his (lack of) all round game, the fact he’s lost his discipline (as the most senior member of the squad) and avoided two red cards probably only because of his name, and the fact he’s disrespecting coaches with hissy fits at 37 years old (which is seemingly only a good thing when it’s Ronaldo but childish and unacceptable when it’s anyone else) then I think it’s safe to say this wasn’t a smart signing. The sooner the club bring in a fresh striker who can bring more to the table the better.

 

[Zehner]

Cristiano Ronaldo throws another strop as Man Utd superstar fires blank vs Burnley in worst goal drought in a DECADE


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...ce=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...onaldo-strop-goal-drought-man-united-burnley/


People don't realise footballers are human. And lose confidence. Especially strikers when they are not scoring goals and have headlines like that rammed down their throats about longest goal drought in 10 YEARS!

like I said, this is happening on Rangnick's watch. He was scoring loads for Ole and Carrick. You have to ask why his goal output with Rangnick is non-existent.. but none of the media or armchair football managers will look deeper and look at Rangnicks tactics and if he's tiring Ronaldo out etc so he's too tired to score. Or if he's not playing Ronaldo in the right positions in terms of asking Ronaldo to drop deeper.. like show a heat map under Ole then Rangnick.

like I said in the match day thread..if Rangnick is the manager next season it's bye bye Ronaldo. Which some people might be happy with.

Ronaldo can still score loads of goals. But he needs a manager like Fergie when he told the other players to pass to him like Fergie did to Van Persie and build a team around RONALDO. Rangnick is treating Ronaldo like any other 37 year old player.. hence he feels disrespected by Rangnick.

So it's best for all parties if Ronaldo leaves at the end of the season I think. Ronaldo and his agent can hand-pick a club that will play to his strengths in the final years of his career. And win trophies. United can go another season trophyless with Rangnick (not the right man for this club) potentially as the manager.

First posting auch a pile of superficial nonsense and then putting the cherry on top by calling others 'armchair managers have you even the slightest clue what 'tactics' means?

 

[Gehrman]

Five years ago he buries the two headers he had last night. It’s obvious that he’s regressed massively. Anyone claiming it’s not him and is just a matter of the service he’s getting is lying to themselves.

He has regressed, it's obvious to most. But there is also stuff like form. Most of the squad have been in terrible form most of the season, it applies to Ronaldo as well. As well as confidence. He needs to that goal so he can rip his shirt off and make everyone scream Siuuuu!

 

[the_cliff]

He has regressed, it's obvious to most. But there is also stuff like form. Most of the squad have been in terrible form most of the season, it applies to Ronaldo as well. As well as confidence. He needs to that goal so he can rip his shirt off and make everyone scream Siuuuu!

Even though the statement is true it's really annoying to constantly hear it in Ronaldo's defence.

Most of the squad isn't on 500k a week, most of the squad doesn't throw a strop when coming off, most of the squad doesn't expect to play every minute and most of the squad doesn't have the luxury of expecting the rest of the team to contribute to their own goal scoring records. Ronaldo has the expectations of one of the best players in the world and not a Rashford/Sancho/Elanga because Ronaldo is being paid like he's still one of the best players in the world and the team is playing around him for this reason.

It's only natural that Ronaldo will be critiqued and criticised more than any other player.

If Ronaldo was on 100k and a bit part player the overall reception and critique of him will be completely different, however he's the star of the team, highest paid player in the team and will therefore be criticised as such.

 

[Gehrman]

Even though the statement is true it's really annoying to constantly hear it in Ronaldo's defence.

Most of the squad isn't on 500k a week, most of the squad doesn't throw a strop when coming off, most of the squad doesn't expect to play every minute and most of the squad doesn't have the luxury of expecting the rest of the team to contribute to their own goal scoring records. Ronaldo has the expectations of one of the best players in the world and not a Rashford/Sancho/Elanga because Ronaldo is being paid like he's still one of the best players in the world and the team is playing around him for this reason.

It's only natural that Ronaldo will be critiqued and criticised more than any other player.

If Ronaldo was on 100k and a bit part player the overall reception and critique of him will be completely different, however he's the star of the team, highest paid player in the team and will therefore be criticised as such.

I've been very critical of Ronaldo in this thread. Im just saying that Ronaldo like so many other strikers also need to get into form. Even prime Rooney had to played while he was shit to get into form. I think the same applies to Ronaldo. But I completely agree with the critism, his overall play lacking, not being clinical, petulant behaviour, being paid too much etc. It's just now he's here and our 2 main strikers are ancient and greenwood is out.

 

[Teja]

It's unfortunate that we're going through a bit of a barren patch in general as a team. I have no doubts that he'll smash them in if we start consistently scoring goals again but time's running out with our easy fixture patch coming to an end.

In March we've got City, Spurs, Atleti, Pool, so he has to smash a few in before that.

 

[the_cliff]

I've been very critical of Ronaldo in this thread. Im just saying that Ronaldo like so many other strikers also need to get into form. Even prime Rooney had to played while he was shit to get into form. I think the same applies to Ronaldo. But I completely agree with the critism, his overall play lacking, not being clinical, petulant behaviour, being paid too much etc. It's just now he's here and our 2 main strikers are ancient and greenwood is out.

I misunderstood you, I thought you were using it in his defence as so many others have.

The problem with playing Ronaldo into form is even when in form he doesn't contribute to any other aspect of play barring finishing, while prime Rooney was still an all around beast despite sometimes not being at his most clinical.
An out of form current version of Ronaldo that can't finish is effectively playing with 10 men, as if he's not scoring he's not doing anything else of note to help the team. In fact you could make an argument that his linkup play is hurting the team more than helping it.

That being said I do agree with you that he's in poor form atm, his overall play is still the same however and he's just not finishing his chances.

 

[Brwned]

There’s no way he’s regressed to the point where he can’t score those predatory goals. He’s just in shit form. Even peak van Persie went through goal droughts. Those chances he gets running in behind though, he seems to be completely in denial that he can’t get away from defenders any more, he still takes it on the outside and drills it low but every time they’re blocking it. I suspect that’s bruising his ego a lot and not burying those kinds of chances are killing his confidence for the others.

 

[Marwood]

Well put. It does seem to me Ronaldo is not the ideal fit for the kind of football Rangnik excels in teaching. The style we played under Solskjær was generally a better fit with his strengths (even if it went tits up three games after he came) and I would guess it’s a tough ask of any 37-year old to learn a new style that doesn’t match well with your profile. Under Solskjær, he’d frequently bail us out, under Rangnik, he has missed many of those chances and looks less confident, and to me more frustrated with himself than with his team mates if I’m guessing.

If he keeps working like he has, though, it will be useful to the club in a difficult transition, and even if it’s not his homecoming dream, he’ll have my respect for it.

Don't think its anything to do with styles. He's missing chances, misplacing passes, taking bad touches. The basics of centre forward play whatever the systen.

Especially missing chances. That's the biggest issue.

 

[Gehrman]

I misunderstood you, I thought you were using it in his defence as so many others have.

The problem with playing Ronaldo into form is even when in form he doesn't contribute to any other aspect of play barring finishing, while prime Rooney was still an all around beast despite sometimes not being at his most clinical.
An out of form current version of Ronaldo that can't finish is effectively playing with 10 men, as if he's not scoring he's not doing anything else of note to help the team. In fact you could make an argument that his linkup play is hurting the team more than helping it.

That being said I do agree with you that he's in poor form atm, his overall play is still the same however and he's just not finishing his chances.

I completely agree. For me it's fairly mental to build around a player with limited attributes at this stage, but we are lacking in options.

 

[Gehrman]

There’s no way he’s regressed to the point where he can’t score those predatory goals. He’s just in shit form. Even peak van Persie went through goal droughts. Those chances he gets running in behind though, he seems to be completely in denial that he can’t get away from defenders any more, he still takes it on the outside and drills it low but every time they’re blocking it. I suspect that’s bruising his ego a lot and not burying those kinds of chances are killing his confidence for the others.

RVP went through goal droughts but his overall play was excellent. Hold up play, touch etc.

 

[git_united]

I feel like drop offs tend to be exponential when your game relies a lot on athleticism. Maybe it's a dip in form but more likely it's something permanent.

Faz que eu coma minhas palavras, Cristiano.

 

[UnitedFan93]

He's scored important goals this season, but the teams performances have suffered massively with him in the team. We played better football last season when he wasn't around. Legs have gone, it's as simple as that. Needs to go ASAP for the team to develop.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Those chances he gets running in behind though, he seems to be completely in denial that he can’t get away from defenders any more, he still takes it on the outside and drills it low but every time they’re blocking it.

Yeah.

He knows when to move, but he doesn't have the burst to lose the defender.

Reminds me of watching an ancient Peter Shilton trying to make saves - reading the situation right almost every time, but just physically incapable of acting on it.

(No - it is not a perfectly apt analogy, but it's something similar).

 

[Lukinho]

The bit at the end had me laughing. It was a poor touch, but then to shoot how he did


An issue every year. We always need four signings just to try and compete ...

And we are probably going to get only 2 in and leave a big hole again like evey Year.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Hold up play, touch etc.

Many will question precisely how good Ronaldo was in that respect even in his prime - but that isn't really the point: his game never depended on it.

It isn't surprising that he isn't - now, at 37 - able to fall back on abilities that he never had to any extraordinary degree in his prime.

 

[goptun]

Cristiano Ronaldo throws another strop as Man Utd superstar fires blank vs Burnley in worst goal drought in a DECADE


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...ce=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...onaldo-strop-goal-drought-man-united-burnley/


People don't realise footballers are human. And lose confidence. Especially strikers when they are not scoring goals and have headlines like that rammed down their throats about longest goal drought in 10 YEARS!

like I said, this is happening on Rangnick's watch. He was scoring loads for Ole and Carrick. You have to ask why his goal output with Rangnick is non-existent.. but none of the media or armchair football managers will look deeper and look at Rangnicks tactics and if he's tiring Ronaldo out etc so he's too tired to score. Or if he's not playing Ronaldo in the right positions in terms of asking Ronaldo to drop deeper.. like show a heat map under Ole then Rangnick.

like I said in the match day thread..if Rangnick is the manager next season it's bye bye Ronaldo. Which some people might be happy with.

Ronaldo can still score loads of goals. But he needs a manager like Fergie when he told the other players to pass to him like Fergie did to Van Persie and build a team around RONALDO. Rangnick is treating Ronaldo like any other 37 year old player.. hence he feels disrespected by Rangnick.

So it's best for all parties if Ronaldo leaves at the end of the season I think. Ronaldo and his agent can hand-pick a club that will play to his strengths in the final years of his career. And win trophies. United can go another season trophyless with Rangnick (not the right man for this club) potentially as the manager.

This should be printed off, framed and hung up somewhere. Ideally in a great hall. Sonya, there's no one quite like ya.

 

[goptun]

It goes without saying that Ronaldo obviously won't have his pick of the clubs in the summer. I'm actually worried he'll end up staying and we'll be stuck with him for another year. He really needs to move on, for his own sake and for ours.