[KeanoMagicHat]

It's funny that arguably the greatest ever physical specimen in any sport was accused of essentially being lazy despite being in the twilight of his career.

The man is probably fitter than some of his team mates in their early 20s. A very very small percentage of people are dedicated to their health and physique as CR.

He was never the biggest problem in Ole's final months, he was scapegoated despite keeping United in the Champions League.

He isn't without problems but his work rate isn't one of them. If you ask him to work for the team he'll do it.

But then it's arguably worse, that he was fit enough to do it, but chose not to. His pressure stats were good against Arsenal. "He made 16 pressures in the attacking third, more than five times as many as in his previous league start against Watford". Why did he only have 3 against Watford, when he's still capable of making 16 in a match?

That just shows what we were complaining about. Those criticising wanted him to do that to help the team. Last night he did it to help the team. Long may it continue.

 

[MichaelRed]

But then it's arguably worse, that he was fit enough to do it, but chose not to. His pressure stats were good against Arsenal. "He made 16 pressures in the attacking third, more than five times as many as in his previous league start against Watford". Why did he only have 3 against Watford, when he's still capable of making 16 in a match?

That just shows what we were complaining about. Those criticising wanted him to do that to help the team. Last night he did it to help the team. Long may it continue.

What a stupid take. Do you think before you post or just wing it? Hmm, I wonder why Ronaldo pressed more in a different tactical set-up that had the team playing much higher up the pitch & pressing as a team. His lack of pressing under Ole was definitely because he's lazy and definitely not because we were never anything other than a counter attack team under Ole for 3 years. Maybe you're suggesting he should have ignored Ole's tactics & solo pressed for 90 minutes under Ole? But then you'd criticise him for ignoring Ole's tactics.

 

[FattyFooty]

Mental footballer.

And to think that some have accused Ronaldo of being a liability.

Thats just plain wrong.

 

[captaincantona]

But then it's arguably worse, that he was fit enough to do it, but chose not to. His pressure stats were good against Arsenal. "He made 16 pressures in the attacking third, more than five times as many as in his previous league start against Watford". Why did he only have 3 against Watford, when he's still capable of making 16 in a match?

That just shows what we were complaining about. Those criticising wanted him to do that to help the team. Last night he did it to help the team. Long may it continue.

Well said...just because certain fans are not in agreement with the exaggeration around his performances does not mean they don’t like him or don’t support him. He wasn’t good in the first half...ran his bollox off in the second and showed two pieces of excellent movement- one to score and one to get a shot away and force the keeper to make a save.

But his work rate justified his inclusion as much as his goals...that’s not always the case.

 

[steffyr2]

But then it's arguably worse, that he was fit enough to do it, but chose not to. His pressure stats were good against Arsenal. "He made 16 pressures in the attacking third, more than five times as many as in his previous league start against Watford". Why did he only have 3 against Watford, when he's still capable of making 16 in a match?

That just shows what we were complaining about. Those criticising wanted him to do that to help the team. Last night he did it to help the team. Long may it continue.

Oh, Utd can't win against Watford without Ronaldo playing at his absolute peak, and it's Ronaldo that's the problem?
You do realize that the season lasts past next Tuesday? There is a long term wear issue?

 

[crossy1686]

The best thing about Ronaldo banging the goals in is how bad it makes Carragher’s takes on United look. People are finally starting to wise up to the fact he’s on a permanent wind up whenever he mentions anything to do with United.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

What a stupid take. Do you think before you post or just wing it? Hmm, I wonder why Ronaldo pressed more in a different tactical set-up that had the team playing much higher up the pitch & pressing as a team. His lack of pressing under Ole was definitely because he's lazy and definitely not because we were never anything other than a counter attack team under Ole for 3 years. Maybe you're suggesting he should have ignored Ole's tactics & solo pressed for 90 minutes under Ole? But then you'd criticise him for ignoring Ole's tactics.

Maybe he could have been better than the bottom 1% of player pressing in the Premier League at the time? Not hard to have put in a little bit more effort.

Oh, Utd can't win against Watford without Ronaldo playing at his absolute peak, and it's Ronaldo that's the problem?
You do realize that the season lasts past next Tuesday? There is a long term wear issue?

If Ronaldo can't run like that every week, then he shouldn't play every game, he should be rotated like this week - one sub appearance, one full appearance. It's better to get full Ronaldo with pressing, than 90 minutes every game of passenger Ronaldo. In my opinion.

 

[MichaelRed]

Maybe he could have been better than the bottom 1% of player pressing in the Premier League at the time? Not hard to have put in a little bit more effort.



If Ronaldo can't run like that every week, then he shouldn't play every game, he should be rotated like this week - one sub appearance, one full appearance. It's better to get full Ronaldo with pressing, than 90 minutes every game of passenger Ronaldo. In my opinion.

So he should have wasted his energy by pressing a back 4 & GK by himself? Why? What chance would he have of winning the ball when 5 people have multiple open lanes to just pass between them? That's just stupid. Are we suggesting he should tire himself out and waste his energy on a fruitless press, lowering his chance of actually contributing & scoring, just so he can impress some stat lovers on the internet by boosting some pressing numbers?

 

[captaincantona]

The best thing about Ronaldo banging the goals in is how bad it makes Carragher’s takes on United look. People are finally starting to wise up to the fact he’s on a permanent wind up whenever he mentions anything to do with United.

I think Carra has gone easy on us to be fair...he could be a right comedy villain...but he has held us to task exactly when we deserved to be, made a few arseholey comments but he is an arsehole don’t forget...but he has always shown respect for our stature as a club and he serves a purpose in entertainment terms. He doesn’t bother me...this is the guy who spat on a kid!

 

[shamans]

3 presses all game, worst on the team besides the centre-backs.

Those pressing stats are bullshit and only look at the times a striker rushes someone if the ball..

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

What the feck do you know OptaJoe, @Idxomer says it wasn’t so you thick shits.

 

[Newtonius]

Hope RR can get him to buy in to his teamwork philosophy moving forward, going back through the game and its frustrating how selfish he is especially outside the box, so many examples where he is running at their defence with runners sprinting to get on on either side of him only to hit a pissweak shot through several bodies. Can tell it frustrates the players too Bruno especially.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I liked how at one point they were going to take him off as it looked like he was struggiling and he just wasn’t making offers or getting involved. Then there was that break and he just opened up the tank and went full throttle thinking there was a goal. There should have been but seeing him haunches over after kinda shows he’s not some sort of Demi god with other worldy stamina. I hope it was just he was tiring and not any sort of injury or tightness.

He really does need rotated a bit more. Especially if he is to continue the workrate he had last night which to me seemed like he was trying a lot more. Maybe just loves a game against Evras kids.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

So he should have wasted his energy by pressing a back 4 & GK by himself? Why? What chance would he have of winning the ball when 5 people have multiple open lanes to just pass between them? That's just stupid. Are we suggesting he should tire himself out and waste his energy on a fruitless press, lowering his chance of actually contributing & scoring, just so he can impress some stat lovers on the internet by boosting some pressing numbers?

By himself? Were you watching the games? Bruno was running up to press instead of Ronaldo and leaving a massive gap in the middle. If Ronaldo had been pulling his weight in that department, he wouldn't have needed to do that. And he didn't do it in the previous 2 seasons before Ronaldo arrived where we finished 2nd and 3rd, rather than having mid-table form.

 

[The United]

By himself? Were you watching the games? Bruno was running up to press instead of Ronaldo and leaving a massive gap in the middle. If Ronaldo had been pulling his weight in that department, he wouldn't have needed to do that. And he didn't do it in the previous 2 seasons before Ronaldo arrived where we finished 2nd and 3rd, rather than having mid-table form.

Bruno has been pressing like that often since he got here. Do you think we got some uber pressing forwards in Rash, Greenwood and Martial in those seasons? Cavani did not play much in the last season either.

Do you think we got 3rd and 2nd in those seasons because we were an effective or even a kind of pressing team?

Do you even watch our games regularly?

 

[MrEleson]

Never seen Opta post stats like these ever before. Did this number of presses and pressure thing really just take off since Ronaldo came back to the club?

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Bruno has been pressing like that often since he got here. Do you think we got some uber pressing forwards in Rash, Greenwood and Martial in those seasons? Cabsni did not play much in the last season either.

Do you even watch our games regularly?

Yes of course I did. There’s no point going over old ground covered by Bebestation, captaincantona, multiple media outlets and videos showing this. Just go back 50 pages of this thread.

The point is Ronaldo pressed more yesterday and I hope that continues because it will help the team out if he does his part.

 

[The United]

Yes of course I did. There’s no point going over old ground covered by Bebestation, captaincantona, multiple media outlets and videos showing this. Just go back 50 pages of this thread.

The point is Ronaldo pressed more yesterday and I hope that continues because it will help the team out if he does his part.

Those posters and multiple media outlets showed that Bruno did not press like that before? Well, wrong. Are they saying our collapse this season had all to do with Ronaldo's pressing? Wrong again.

Also, United finishing 3rd and 2nd in those seasons because we were super pressing team in those? It would be wrong again.

How would you know all of those are wrong? Just by watching our team play regularly in those seasons. And of course have some awareness of what was going on in those seasons in the league and with other teams.

Even pressing Liverpool team had a very bad spell last season at some point that even their fans were claiming that they would not finish 4th.

Pressing alone does not make you a winner automatically. Having a plan and execute it well as a team does. Ronaldo scoring last night helped the team. Not so much with his pressing. His pressing actually gave us nothing really just like how Bruno's does not often due to the team not doing it all together. Arguably, if he passed the ball to Rash on first half, it would have helped the team more with scoring early.

 

[Acheron]

No one has any idea how those games would've gone without him.

I know how those games when you didn't have him. Truth is you've been an underwhelming and stagnant team for quite a while and non existent in the UCL getting embarrassed in group stages. Outside of England most people think you've been shit but at least now with Ronaldo there's a constant threat of him scoring out of nowhere even with the team still playing like shit.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Those posters and multiple media outlets showed that Bruno did not press like that before? Well, wrong. Are they saying our collapse this season had all to do with Ronaldo's pressing? Wrong again.

Also, United finishing 3rd and 2nd in those seasons because we were super pressing team in those? It would be wrong again.

How would you know all of those are wrong? Just by watching our team play regularly in those seasons. And of course have some awareness of what was going on in those seasons in the league and with other teams.

Even pressing Liverpool team had a very bad spell last season at some point that even their fans were claiming that they would not finish 4th.

They showed that the structure of the team had changed to allow for Ronaldo, where Bruno was taking up different pressing positions to cover for Ronaldo and leaving big gaps in the midfield, Ronaldo was highlighted as a reason in detailed videos. Rodgers even gloated about it in a press conference about how easy it was to build up.

There's a difference between peak Klopp and a bit of serviceable pressing to cover for yourself. If United's pressing was 5/10 to City's 9/10, it dropped to 3/10. You can get away with 5, but not with 3. It's not the only reason, far from it, but it was a reason.

Why do you think Ronaldo pressed so much last night? Because he knows Rangnick was watching and Rangnick won't stand for that lack of effort. He has to shape up or be dropped.

 

[captaincantona]

Folks...instead of bickering about our problems last season...go back to your own comments in matchday threads and see what you were all complaining about. It certainly wasn’t the fact that we looked poor out of possession and getting played through easily. Go check...everyone was on about low blocks and relying on individuals.

That Incompetence at the back and in midfield is something that has emerged this season. Fact.

Bruno pressing too high may have happened last season...sporadically...but no one on here had major issue with it!ie. it wasn’t a source of worry or a reason we lost goals...we were blaming set pieces and Lindelof for that!

My view is definitely that when Ronaldo first came into the team, he was not working hard...and Bruno was being asked to try help cover and assist the wide forwards. Agree or don’t agree. But don’t trash a reasonable opinion.

now, (Last night) Bruno was playing a bit less like David Bellion on XTC and Ronny put in a shift. Long may it continue! We were still SHITE! Awful to watch and individuals errors everywhere with no co-ordination going forward and we can’t play out from the back to save our lives...but we were better...because our midfield stayed a midfield 3 and our frontline worked hard (sort of- Rashford didn’t, which is why if we were playing a good side and not Arsenal we would have been punished)

 

[The United]

They showed that the structure of the team had changed to allow for Ronaldo, where Bruno was taking up different pressing positions to cover for Ronaldo and leaving big gaps in the midfield, Ronaldo was highlighted as a reason in detailed videos. Rodgers even gloated about it in a press conference about how easy it was to build up.

There's a difference between peak Klopp and a bit of serviceable pressing to cover for yourself. If United's pressing was 5/10 to City's 9/10, it dropped to 3/10. You can get away with 5, but not with 3. It's not the only reason, far from it, but it was a reason.

Why do you think Ronaldo pressed so much last night? Because he knows Rangnick was watching and Rangnick won't stand for that lack of effort. He has to shape up or be dropped.

Do those detail videos showed how he did it too in other seasons? I mean do you think that Marital pressed a lot from up front?

Do I think Ronaldo pressed so much last night? Strangely, I didn't think so until people came with the stats. Someone said he did only 3 presses?

He seemed to be more urgent. But that's because I think he wanted to preserve the lead which he did in a few other games after he scored. He didn't put that much efforts in those hopeless losing games which we have had a lot lately and it gave contents to your other posters and media outlets to spout nonsenses that we are doing not well this season due to him.

It was coming from a long way to see how this season would unfold after that Leeds game all the way up to when Ronaldo arrived.

And you agreed that United could be better if they pressed better? Of course. But that non pressing United finished 2nd and 3rd in those seasons as you said. So, it can't be that we are doing shit now because one man who played up front does not press. We did horribly in a lot of games where both Cavani and Bruno pressed like madmen too. It is a team game and singling out on Ronaldo was just purely based on agenda and trying to make oneself look clever while ignoring a much wider issue with the team.

The narrative that Bruno HAD to move forward to press ahead of Ronaldo has no leg because like I said we were never a pressing team and NEVER had a plan for that. What would even be achieved by pressing their defenders in that sense? What would trigger for our play by pressing their defenders especially with Greenwood, Rashford and even Sancho are not exactly in the loop with it?

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

My view is definitely that when Ronaldo first came into the team, he was not working hard...and Bruno was being asked to try help cover and assist the wide forwards. Agree or don’t agree. But don’t trash a reasonable opinion.

Yep, it's alright to absolute lay into half the players on our team on a regular basis (some very harsh abuse), but not alright to criticise the 1) most high-profile player on the team 2) the highest paid player 3) the player bought specifically to win matches, yet we have lost almost half our league matches since he arrived. The goalposts have completely changed on the Ronaldo signing, who was supposed to help us win the league and be the icing on the cake, yet the team got significantly worse.

 

[kouroux]

Opposition fans or our own fans? Why would they even do that?

Our fans and because in a way they blame him for Ole's sacking.

 

[RedTiger]

What's his current goal total for united?

 

[Gonçalo Motta]

They showed that the structure of the team had changed to allow for Ronaldo, where Bruno was taking up different pressing positions to cover for Ronaldo and leaving big gaps in the midfield, Ronaldo was highlighted as a reason in detailed videos. Rodgers even gloated about it in a press conference about how easy it was to build up.

There's a difference between peak Klopp and a bit of serviceable pressing to cover for yourself. If United's pressing was 5/10 to City's 9/10, it dropped to 3/10. You can get away with 5, but not with 3. It's not the only reason, far from it, but it was a reason.

Why do you think Ronaldo pressed so much last night? Because he knows Rangnick was watching and Rangnick won't stand for that lack of effort. He has to shape up or be dropped.

So by default, you are saying that Ronaldo was ignoring instructions before by never pressing and now he is only pressing to impress? That doesn't make sense at all.

My guess is that Ole instructed Ronaldo not to press and to conserve energy for key moments while now he is being instructed to press at the cost of not being able to play the 90m as often. It's fair either way, if you have a team and the structure to compensate our FW not pressing it's ok, if you don't, it makes sense for Ronaldo to help to press at the cost of not being able to play as often or the 90m.

 

[Buster15]

It's funny that arguably the greatest ever physical specimen in any sport was accused of essentially being lazy despite being in the twilight of his career.

The man is probably fitter than some of his team mates in their early 20s. A very very small percentage of people are dedicated to their health and physique as CR.

He was never the biggest problem in Ole's final months, he was scapegoated despite keeping United in the Champions League.

He isn't without problems but his work rate isn't one of them. If you ask him to work for the team he'll do it.

Very good assessment.
Honestly. Those who accuse Ronaldo of being a problem....
Where else are the goals coming from?

 

[The United]

Yep, it's alright to absolute lay into half the players on our team on a regular basis (some very harsh abuse), but not alright to criticise the 1) most high-profile player on the team 2) the highest paid player 3) the player bought specifically to win matches, yet we have lost almost half our league matches since he arrived. The goalposts have completely changed on the Ronaldo signing, who was supposed to help us win the league and be the icing on the cake, yet the team got significantly worse.

It is also not alright to focus on Ronaldo's pressing alone for all the shortcomings of the team this season as well.

It is even more ridiculous than people giving out abuses to other players who are actually not doing their jobs properly such as defenders with their comical individual errors.

And he did score in many games where normally we would not like in those CL games. So he did his job decently enough. Anyone thinking we would win the league this season was just delusion. Everyone were screaming out for decent DMs/CMs for that way before Ronaldo was signed and even when he was signing.

 

[captaincantona]

Very good assessment.
Honestly. Those who accuse Ronaldo of being a problem....
Where else are the goals coming from?

Why does it always have to be so cut and dry with Ronaldo fans? Who is saying he and he alone is the problem or he is lazy or he is xyz?

It is a very reasonable assessment to say the team have looked considerably weaker and disjointed this season. If some people believe that the integration of a new type of striker as predominantly first name on the team sheet might have played a part in that then where’s the issue? You won’t find Keano or Bebe or others not appreciating his goals or performances ( when he actually performs)...but their views are just more objective and look to reasons why the team look like a schoolboy team this season. Ronaldo has created problems for the team no doubt- his goals are the pay off for that- it would be foolish to incorporate a predominantly static(till last night) 37 year old unless they brought something to the table.

Ronny was always going to score goals but we haven’t gotten any better for having him in the team- We have actually scored less then at this point last season...so it’s simple...If we get better under Rangnick and Ronny is in the team HAPPY DAYS...if we get better under Rangnick and Ronny isn’t in the team...HAPPY DAYS...my assessment of the team and joy at watching my favorite team has fuk all dependency on Cristiano Ronaldo being on the pitch...that does not seem to be the case for some of you...but don’t take shotS at posters who don’t see it your way.

 

[KingCavani]

Would have thought @captaincantona would be more sympathetic to attacking players doing less in defence to focus on what they do best.

 

[The United]

I wonder what all these posters think about Ole and XG/XA stuff. We were outperforming that for the last 2-3 seasons under Ole. Many said we would go back down pretty hard at some point. And many people suspects that Bruno's insane outputs would never sustain over several seasons.

Do people ever think that 'point' actually happened in this season? Maybe Ronaldo's pressing stats is not the main reason for us being shit?

I mean it could be a 'reasonable' opinion backing up with 'stats' too right?

 

[captaincantona]

Would have thought @captaincantona would be more sympathetic to attacking players doing less in defence to focus on what they do best.

 

[captaincantona]

I wonder what all these posters think about Ole and XG/XA stuff. We were outperforming that for the last 2-3 seasons under Ole. Many said we would go back down pretty hard at some point.

Do people ever think that 'point' actually happened in this season? Maybe Ronaldo's pressing stats is not the main reason for us being shit?

I mean it could be a 'reasonable' opinion backing up with 'stats' too right?

Good point imo...could very well be. Would be unusual enough for it to all just unravel the way it has though. We look like we have less players on the pitch at times this season ...it’s very stark. I have some more ideas ya know...it’s not just Ronny! I have my theories about weak mentality and bad atmosphere...how Varane and Sancho coming effected the likes of Mata, Bailey, DVB, Jesse, Lindelof etc. Instead of seeing it as a challenge...the levels dropped and the whole place seemed to get very caustic...you have to question Shaw and Maguires hangover...

but I do think Ronny has added to the mix...allbeit offering more in return.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

It is also not alright to focus on Ronaldo's pressing alone for all the shortcomings of the team this season as well.

It is even more ridiculous than people giving out abuses to other players who are actually not doing their jobs properly such as defenders with their comical individual errors.

And he did score in many games where normally we would not like in those CL games. So he did his job decently enough. Anyone thinking we would win the league this season was just delusion. Everyone were screaming out for decent DMs/CMs for that way before Ronaldo was signed and even when he was signing.

But Ronaldo earns several times more than Fred and you rely on Ronaldo to win you matches. He shoulders a greater responsibility for his team than anyone else, due to his prestigious name.

If United win the Champions League, who will be pictured with the trophy? It’s Ronaldo, he gets the acclaim when United win, so it’s a double standard to say he also doesn’t deserve criticism when United lose games when that’s the reason he was bought to the club - ‘a born winner’ we always hear. Fred doesn’t get any credit if we win, but all the criticism for ‘letting down Ronaldo’. It was Ronaldo who chose to come here and he has played in every game. He’s not an impartial observer.

If he can’t win you matches and seriously improve your line-up, then he’s an indulgent and unnecessary signing. Which he was. That’s not necessarily his fault personally, but you’re trying to look at patterns of why United are just so bad last season. And one of them is the non-existent pressing from the front. Which involves Ronaldo right in the middle of it.

 

[The United]

But Ronaldo earns several times more than Fred and you rely on Ronaldo to win you matches. He shoulders a greater responsibility for his team than anyone else, due to his prestigious name.

If United win the Champions League, who will be pictured with the trophy? It’s Ronaldo, he gets the acclaim when United win, so it’s a double standard to say he also doesn’t deserve criticism when United lose games when that’s the reason he was bought to the club - ‘a born winner’ we always hear. Fred doesn’t get any credit if we win, but all the criticism for ‘letting down Ronaldo’. It was Ronaldo who chose to come here and he has played in every game. He’s not an impartial observer.

If he can’t win you matches and seriously improve your line-up, then he’s an indulgent and unnecessary signing. Which he was. That’s not necessarily his fault personally, but you’re trying to look at patterns of why United are just so bad last season. And one of them is the non-existent pressing from the front. Which involves Ronaldo right in the middle of it.

I never said myself you can't criticize him.

I just do not understand with some posters obsessed with pressing stats alone especially under Ole. People just find weird stick to beat him with.

Attackers generally get more credit than the rest. Has always been like that in the history. Nothing really weird or special with Ronaldo or any other attackers on that. I personally think Xavi deserved more credit than Messi in that Barca team.

My point is that people are ignoring that the team shortcomings to this point is coming from a few months with several other main factors. Ronaldo's pressing alone does not make it this bad. It is also annoying that some rival fans coming here to diss Ronaldo for their other agendas. Whether you like him or not, he plays for United and had significant contributions to one of our greatest teams. So what if United fans can be a bit touchy with some of the criticism about him and defended him a bit more than they should on a United forum.

I see no big deal about it.

 

[The United]

Good point imo...could very well be. Would be unusual enough for it to all just unravel the way it has though. We look like we have less players on the pitch at times this season ...it’s very stark. I have some more ideas ya know...it’s not just Ronny! I have my theories about weak mentality and bad atmosphere...how Varane and Sancho coming effected the likes of Mata, Bailey, DVB, Jesse, Lindelof etc. Instead of seeing it as a challenge...the levels dropped and the whole place seemed to get very caustic...you have to question Shaw and Maguires hangover...

but I do think Ronny has added to the mix...allbeit offering more in return.

If we are under a pressing system and coach and he does not do it enough to offset with what he offers, it is totally a fair game for me.

But, under Ole, we did not press at all or even had a plan for it. Carrick came in to do 3 games and probably asked the team to work harder, Ronaldo did just that in those. Even Carrick said he followed his instructions exactly.

We are here concluding too early about this team and players with their capability.

Our pressing will improve a lot under the new guy because we didn't have it before. But, I doubt it will get to the point we can match the top teams yet this season. You hope the new guy can find a working system and structure - not solely relied on intensive front foot pressing - to defend better as a team for this season.

 

[RedRonaldo]

But Ronaldo earns several times more than Fred and you rely on Ronaldo to win you matches. He shoulders a greater responsibility for his team than anyone else, due to his prestigious name.

If United win the Champions League, who will be pictured with the trophy? It’s Ronaldo, he gets the acclaim when United win, so it’s a double standard to say he also doesn’t deserve criticism when United lose games when that’s the reason he was bought to the club - ‘a born winner’ we always hear. Fred doesn’t get any credit if we win, but all the criticism for ‘letting down Ronaldo’. It was Ronaldo who chose to come here and he has played in every game. He’s not an impartial observer.

If he can’t win you matches and seriously improve your line-up, then he’s an indulgent and unnecessary signing. Which he was. That’s not necessarily his fault personally, but you’re trying to look at patterns of why United are just so bad last season. And one of them is the non-existent pressing from the front. Which involves Ronaldo right in the middle of it.

He was bought mainly for the goals, not for the pressing or defensive works, and so far he has delivered, perhaps exceed most people expectation on him in this tough league, and under our current tough situation. If we are struggling while he failed to score, maybe the criticism would be more justified. But its clearly not the case this season.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Yearly breakdown on how he scored his 801+ goals:

2002(17): 5 goals
2003(18): 1 goals
2004(19): 13 goals
2005(20): 15 goals
2006(21): 25 goals
2007(22): 34 goals
2008(23): 35 goals
2009(24): 30 goals
2010(25): 48 goals
2011(26): 60 goals
2012(27): 63 goals
2013(28): 69 goals
2014(29): 61 goals (400+)
2015(30): 57 goals (500+)
2016(31): 55 goals
2017(32): 53 goals (600+)
2018(33): 49 goals
2019(34): 39 goals (700+)
2020(35): 44 goals
2021(36): 45+ goals (800+)

If he continues until he reached 40, is there any chance he could reach 1000 career goals at top level? That would be totally out of this world, although 800 is already an unprecedented figure at top level. My safe bet though, he would have very good chance to get to 900 goal milestone before his retirement.

 

[The Corinthian]

Yearly breakdown on how he scored his 801+ goals:

2002(17): 5 goals
2003(18): 1 goals
2004(19): 13 goals
2005(20): 15 goals
2006(21): 25 goals
2007(22): 34 goals
2008(23): 35 goals
2009(24): 30 goals
2010(25): 48 goals
2011(26): 60 goals
2012(27): 63 goals
2013(28): 69 goals
2014(29): 61 goals
2015(30): 57 goals
2016(31): 55 goals
2017(32): 53 goals
2018(33): 49 goals
2019(34): 39 goals
2020(35): 44 goals
2021(36): 45+ goals

If he continues until he reached 40, is there any chance he could reach 1000 career goals at top level? That would be totally out of this world, although 800 is already an unprecedented figure at top level. My safe bet though, he would have very good chance to get to 900 goal milestone before his retirement.

The period between 2011 and 2017 is remarkable. Averaging just under 60 goals a year for 7 years straight. Mind boggling.

 

[charlenefan]

Mental, wonder if he remembers them all?