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Senanayaka has been reported.

He'll probably get cleared, but my god, he's so clearly chucking the ball at times its ridiculous.
 
Narine, Ojha, Senanayaka, Shillingford, Ajmal

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Amla's the new SA captain.

I can't make my mind up on it, I can see why they don't want to give AVDB the captaincy and over burden him though.
 
Narine, Ojha, Senanayaka, Shillingford, Ajmal

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They just mentioned an interesting point on the commentary for this game. The ultimate aim for the testers is to get sensors on bowlers in game.

Thats going to completely change the game imo. I don't doubt that all of those bowlers bowl legally at times, in fact, I think they probably do 95% of the time (except from when one delivery is illegal, i.e. Shillingfords doosra) but I agree with the point Broad made, if you're looking to extract a little bit extra from the pitch a legal 10 degree straightening becomes an illegal 16 degrees very easily if you have that being picked up instantaneously it could seriously damage the existence of mystery spinner.
 
They just mentioned an interesting point on the commentary for this game. The ultimate aim for the testers is to get sensors on bowlers in game
Thats going to completely change the game imo. I don't doubt that all of those bowlers bowl legally at times, in fact, I think they probably do 95% of the time (except from when one delivery is illegal, i.e. Shillingfords doosra) but I agree with the point Broad made, if you're looking to extract a little bit extra from the pitch a legal 10 degree straightening becomes an illegal 16 degrees very easily if you have that being picked up instantaneously it could seriously damage the existence of mystery spinner.

That'll eradicate the problem but truth to be told I really don't have a problem with Chucking. Yes I know it's against the rules but bowlers like Narine, Ajmal etc enrich the game and make it more competitive.
 
That'll eradicate the problem but truth to be told I really don't have a problem with Chucking. Yes I know it's against the rules but bowlers like Narine, Ajmal etc enrich the game and make it more competitive.

I think it's blatant cheating and bending of rules. Rules that have been altered to ensure the doosra can be bowled. It's not even subtle with the four you mentioned.
 
That'll eradicate the problem but truth to be told I really don't have a problem with Chucking. Yes I know it's against the rules but bowlers like Narine, Ajmal etc enrich the game and make it more competitive.

Tbh, theres a little bit of me that agrees with you. Mystery spin and variations, especially in 20/20, stops off spinners becoming absolute cannon fodder, without some degree of chucking you can't bowl those balls.

But, the rules allow 15 degrees of flex, some bowlers can bowl those deliveries within those parameters, the problem with chucking is when it goes further than that.

I think it's blatant cheating and bending of rules. Rules that have been altered to ensure the doosra can be bowled. It's not even subtle with the four you mentioned.

No the rules were changed because 90% of bowlers chuck, just because of how your elbow and arm work. They realised that when they started using video if they were going to start no balling obvious chuckers then you'd have to no ball orthodox players like Glenn McGrath because their elbows also straightened. Then these spinners grew up in the shadow of the rule change.
 
Didn't know that, but still, leaves a bad taste in my mouth when actions are so blatantly illegal and they are praised for being excellent bowlers.
 
Amla's the new SA captain.

I can't make my mind up on it, I can see why they don't want to give AVDB the captaincy and over burden him though.

I think Du Plessis should have been given it. The number he bats and his style of batting suits captaincy imo. Has a calm head on his shoulders too.
 
That'll eradicate the problem but truth to be told I really don't have a problem with Chucking. Yes I know it's against the rules but bowlers like Narine, Ajmal etc enrich the game and make it more competitive.

But Swann has shown up to very recently that off-spin can be both legal and dangerous. Not to mention the fact that these mystery spinners are killing leg spin - it's a LOT harder to master leg spin than it is to start chucking your doosra down and to be honest, if I were a leggie right now, I'd be looking at giving up and becoming one of these mystery spinners instead, which would be really sad.
 
But Swann has shown up to very recently that off-spin can be both legal and dangerous. Not to mention the fact that these mystery spinners are killing leg spin - it's a LOT harder to master leg spin than it is to start chucking your doosra down and to be honest, if I were a leggie right now, I'd be looking at giving up and becoming one of these mystery spinners instead, which would be really sad.
If anything, the recent ICC tournament has shown that leg spin is alive and well.
 
Yeah my comment is perhaps hasty, but I do think that young lads will turn more and more to offspin if there's nothing done about these 'mystery spinners'.
 
Bowling with bent arms is ok, it is straightening beyond 15 degrees that is not allowed.

Either way, I think it is fine. Not sure why there's such an arbitrary rule..

I have thought of chucking as something done to generate extra speed. I just view what these bowlers are doing as a skill. It just makes the game more competitive..
 
But Swann has shown up to very recently that off-spin can be both legal and dangerous. Not to mention the fact that these mystery spinners are killing leg spin - it's a LOT harder to master leg spin than it is to start chucking your doosra down and to be honest, if I were a leggie right now, I'd be looking at giving up and becoming one of these mystery spinners instead, which would be really sad.

Nah mate, I think spinners are getting killed because of that ridiculous 5 fielders in the circle rule in ODI's. With bigger bats and smaller grounds, Spinners are getting tonked to all parts. Plus in the recent ICC tournament and the IPL, leg spinners did very well throughout.

http://www.starsports.com/cricket/video/vod/videoid=1325561/index.html

What are people's thoughts about this btw?

Made me laugh but I think the right call was made.
 
Was he warned before?

If yes then I don't see any problem.
 
To be fair he did warn buttler and buttler was sleeping when it happened. But it's a bit of a sad way to see the most (only :lol:) exciting batsman in the England team go.
 
Was he warned before?

If yes then I don't see any problem.

Yeah that's what the commentators are saying. Just tuned in and thought it was a stupid thing to do, but he can't complain if he was warned not to do it. Within the rules too.
 
I don't think the captain would have accepted the wicket if it had been anyone apart from buttler though.
 
Yeah that's what the commentators are saying. Just tuned in and thought it was a stupid thing to do, but he can't complain if he was warned not to do it. Within the rules too.

Yup. Apparently he warned both of the batsmen.
 
Was he warned before?

If yes then I don't see any problem.

It's if you're backing up unfairly, which I don't think he was, he was only out of his crease because Senanayake (despite what Holding said) was stepping into his delivery stride.

Also the rule is shit, and I dont think its in the spirit.
 
It's if you're backing up unfairly, which I don't think he was, he was only out of his crease because Senanayake (despite what Holding said) was stepping into his delivery stride.

Also the rule is shit, and I dont think its in the spirit.

How is it in the spirit of cricket, if the batsmen starts to get a head start even though the bowler hasn't bowled the ball?
Perfectly fair rule. Need to see the incident though.
 
Nah mate, I think spinners are getting killed because of that ridiculous 5 fielders in the circle rule in ODI's. With bigger bats and smaller grounds, Spinners are getting tonked to all parts. Plus in the recent ICC tournament and the IPL, leg spinners did very well throughout.

http://www.starsports.com/cricket/video/vod/videoid=1325561/index.html

What are people's thoughts about this btw?

Made me laugh but I think the right call was made.

Yeah that's a fair point too.

And I can't see the video - maybe only works in India?
 
How is it in the spirit of cricket, if the batsmen starts to get a head start even though the bowler hasn't bowled the ball?
Perfectly fair rule. Need to see the incident though.

It's half a yard, if that, if Buttler had charged off and been up by the striker then fine, but he wasn't. It was only because Senanayaka jumped into his delivery stride and then didn't bowl that his bat was out of the crease.
 
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Look at how far he is from the crease!
 
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Look at how far he is from the crease!

Find me a still when Senanayake's front foot touches the line. Buttler's either in or centimeters out, he'd kept walking by your picture expecting Senanayake to have actually bowled the ball.

In fact, unless I misunderstand them, what Senanayaka did in regards to his delivery stride is actually against the rules.

(oh fair, it says swing not stride)
 
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England make ODIs so boring. I would like to know why Hales isn't given a chance?
 
The real answer is because they don't think he's got the technique to face the moving ball in the longer formats.

Him scoring 130 odd off 110 balls in the County Championship today will go along way to getting him in the ODI side, as odd as it (and he should be there anyway imo).
 
England make ODIs so boring. I would like to know why Hales isn't given a chance?

They recently also said that Buttler wasn't ready for Test?

Mind boggling stuff considering the other two options- Prior and Bairstow haven't really inspired much confidence.
 
They recently also said that Buttler wasn't ready for Test?

Mind boggling stuff considering the other two options- Prior and Bairstow haven't really inspired much confidence.
He's been pretty dire in first class cricket, despite playing at one of the easiest places to bat, for nearly all of it.
 
They recently also said that Buttler wasn't ready for Test?

Mind boggling stuff considering the other two options- Prior and Bairstow haven't really inspired much confidence.

His keepings pretty shit to be fair.
 
He's been pretty dire in first class cricket, despite playing at one of the easiest places to bat, for nearly all of it.

Well I'm not sure of his domestic average but Prior and Bairstow haven't been performing greatly at all. Plus he's still young and this is the time to develop his test match skills.