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India have been a bit unlucky this series. Thought form of Dhawan and Sharma has been a major handicap. Dhoni needs to come at 5 as well.
 
India have been a bit unlucky this series. Thought form of Dhawan and Sharma has been a major handicap. Dhoni needs to come at 5 as well.

I like this 11. I think we should stick with it. Ideally, would have Yadav in for Bhuvaneshwar if one of him or Aaron can find consistency.

Not decided on if Raina's the person in ODIs for Aus. Maybe Rayudu there, but mostly I think this is a good 11.

Rahane not been making runs, but I hope they keep him in there.
 
They need to bring in Pujara. Too much pressure on Kohli to anchor every innings. Raina is not going to cut it. Heard today that he has one 50 over last year and that too against Zimbabwe.
 
The main issue I've with Rohit and Dhawan is they seemingly can't rotate the strike in the first ten overs. Raina is on his last chance really.

Also agreed with Crappy, really disappointed with Kumar's shot, should've stayed till the end and we would've won the match.
 
The main issue I've with Rohit and Dhawan is they seemingly can't rotate the strike in the first ten overs. Raina is on his last chance really.

Also agreed with Crappy, really disappointed with Kumar's shot, should've stayed till the end and we would've won the match.

I think he should be shown the door personally. It's not that he's not scoring runs but there's been no improvement on playing the short stuff despite it being a weakness for years now.

Our bowling is crap and our batting is way too reliant on Kohli to fire.

P.S This Corey Anderson chap looks very good.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't really see an issue in BCCI asking for a bigger share in profit when they're generating most of the money anyway?
 
Am I the only one who doesn't really see an issue in BCCI asking for a bigger share in profit when they're generating most of the money anyway?

I think there's a distinction that needs to be made here. The BCCI doesn't generate any money for ICC. ICC's revenue is the money they make from hosting world cups and the BCCI is claiming a large share of it as theirs because it's from the country they're in.

If the BCCI actually did something to generate this revenue, then I think they have a point. Right now, they don't. No one's taking away the BCCI's own revenue they generate from bilateral tours, that goes straight to their coffers.

I think all sports bodies should distribute revenues with neutral factors weighed in. The premier league does that and it is why it is such a good league.
 
I think there's a distinction that needs to be made here. The BCCI doesn't generate any money for ICC. ICC's revenue is the money they make from hosting world cups and the BCCI is claiming a large share of it as theirs because it's from the country they're in.

If the BCCI actually did something to generate this revenue, then I think they have a point. Right now, they don't. No one's taking away the BCCI's own revenue they generate from bilateral tours, that goes straight to their coffers.

I think all sports bodies should distribute revenues with neutral factors weighed in. The premier league does that and it is why it is such a good league.

And the fact that the BCCI claim that it generates 80% of the revenue is bs.
 
And the fact that the BCCI claim that it generates 80% of the revenue is bs.

Are you disputing that India generate 80% of the revenue?

If yes, what is your source? Everywhere I've read this reported as fact.
 
Are you disputing that India generate 80% of the revenue?

If yes, what is your source? Everywhere I've read this reported as fact.

1) BCCI has yet to provide any proof of this statement themselves.

I asked him if he could provide a figure for what an ICC World Cup, minus a sulking BCCI, would financially look like.
His answer: half of ICC profits would be affected and turn into a 15% to 20% hit on the other seven Full Member nations. His calculations were simple. Bilateral matches involving India normally earn the rights holder "between US$5 million and $10 million per match." It is what ICC World Cup matches earn, he says, on average even though most matches don't involve India. "The crux of the question is whether the Indian public still has an appetite for a World Cup without India. ICC profits could probably be expected to halve, which would shave 15% to 20% off the budgets of the Small Seven."

The numbers and the calculations can be argued over, but they were worked out by a cricket fan in a quick turnaround email. Just like that. Former ICC president Ehsan Mani, and head of its finance and marketing for six years offers a different calculation in his ten-page note on the position paper. If India did not participate in an ICC event, while there would be a "significant reduction in the value of ICC's commercial rights" but "not a reduction of 80% of ICC revenues." He states that, "From discussions with the broadcaster," the estimate for a World Cup without Pakistan, South Africa and the West Indies has in fact, pegged the reduction in ICC revenues to somewhere between,"30% to 40%." Well, knock me dead.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/712599.html

The 80% figure seems to have been made up due to the amount of sponsors from India for the WC, most of these sponsors are paying for the WC not just India's part in the WC. Also, with the next WC not being in India I expect this number to naturally decreaase.
 
I think there's a distinction that needs to be made here. The BCCI doesn't generate any money for ICC. ICC's revenue is the money they make from hosting world cups and the BCCI is claiming a large share of it as theirs because it's from the country they're in.

If the BCCI actually did something to generate this revenue, then I think they have a point. Right now, they don't. No one's taking away the BCCI's own revenue they generate from bilateral tours, that goes straight to their coffers.

I think all sports bodies should distribute revenues with neutral factors weighed in. The premier league does that and it is why it is such a good league.
Yes. You want to go down the premier league way rather than the la liga way. Typical bcci behaviour in being completely obsessed with money and power. It's pathetic how the government doesn't open them right up in terms of transparency.
 
Yes. You want to go down the premier league way rather than the la liga way. Typical bcci behaviour in being completely obsessed with money and power. It's pathetic how the government doesn't open them right up in terms of transparency.
Because it is a cash cow with politicians from all major parties involved in administration

A bit like Priya Ranjan Dasmunshi as AIFF president for life
 
KP dropped for the T20 WC. Big call, I wonder if this is the end for him or if they'll keep him for the Test matches?

Great player, a joy to watch when in-form. Seemed he didn't get along with his teammates, and some of his actions raised eyebrows. But you can't deny he's been one of the best batsman England have had it will be a loss should this be the end.
 
KP dropped for the T20 WC. Big call, I wonder if this is the end for him or if they'll keep him for the Test matches?

Great player, a joy to watch when in-form. Seemed he didn't get along with his teammates, and some of his actions raised eyebrows. But you can't deny he's been one of the best batsman England have had it will be a loss should this be the end.

Seems to be they've dropped him from all cricket, saying his England career is over.

I know he can be hit and miss but I don't currently see anyone better to step in. I guess he isn't always good for a harmonious dressing room mind.
 
What a joke decision about KP, great batsmen and we are dropping him. The management need to come out with what exactly happened in the dressing room. Now all we need to appoint that idiot the King of Spain Giles as the coach and our decline in future cricket will be confirmed.
 
KP dropped for the T20 WC. Big call, I wonder if this is the end for him or if they'll keep him for the Test matches?

Great player, a joy to watch when in-form. Seemed he didn't get along with his teammates, and some of his actions raised eyebrows. But you can't deny he's been one of the best batsman England have had it will be a loss should this be the end.

Gone from all forms by the looks of it.

Big call by the ECB. What a joy he was to watch when on song. Has to be his effect on the dressing room, always rumors about him not getting along with the rest.
 
Gone from all forms by the looks of it.

Big call by the ECB. What a joy he was to watch when on song. Has to be his effect on the dressing room, always rumors about him not getting along with the rest.

To be fair, if you aren't English, the people in England turn on you quickly. See Andy "Scottish if he loses" Murray.

Mind you, texting the opposition insulting your captain will alienate teammates quickly.
 
To be fair, if you aren't English, the people in England turn on you quickly. See Andy "Scottish if he loses" Murray.

Mind you, texting the opposition insulting your captain will alienate teammates quickly.

Thats not strictly true, and the comparison with. Murray:lol:. KP hasn't helped himself, but I don't agree with this decision and I'm worried for the future of the team. The fans deserve to know what actually happened and I hope that is revealed because there is more to this then meets the eye.
 
I think I might be done with English cricket.

A team of boring, attritional cricketers managed by a dour, attritional, boring coach who also was never actually a good cricketer.

Thank you KP, one of the best we've ever had. The Oval, Headingly and Mumbai are some of the greatest knocks I've ever seen.

I'm so angry right now it's unhealthy.
 
Thats not strictly true, and the comparison with. Murray:lol:. KP hasn't helped himself, but I don't agree with this decision and I'm worried for the future of the team. The fans deserve to know what actually happened and I hope that is revealed because there is more to this then meets the eye.

The comparism is of them being Scottish/ South African whenever they don't perform. I think that's fair.

It is a terrible decision though.

I think I might be done with English cricket.

A team of boring, attritional cricketers managed by a dour, attritional, boring coach who also was never actually a good cricketer.

Thank you KP, one of the best we've ever had. The Oval, Headingly and Mumbai are some of the greatest knocks I've ever seen.

I'm so angry right now it's unhealthy.

Flower was a great cricketer. Other than that, agree.
 
The comparism is of them being Scottish/ South African whenever they don't perform. I think that's fair.

It is a terrible decision though.



Flower was a great cricketer. Other than that, agree.

Flower was an excellent cricketer.

I was talking about Giles, who is nailed on to be next head coach.
 
A superb player and entertainer. A bad egg by all accounts. Management can only give so many chances.
 
The comparism is of them being Scottish/ South African whenever they don't perform. I think that's fair.
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There is simply just no truth to the fact the people turn on you just because you were not born in England. Murray has been backed by the majority of fans, yeah there are minority who dint like him due to the previous comments he has made but the majority of fans back him. KP has just caused his own issues.
 
To be fair, if you aren't English, the people in England turn on you quickly. See Andy "Scottish if he loses" Murray.

Mind you, texting the opposition insulting your captain will alienate teammates quickly.

The Andy "Scottish if he loses" Murray thing is a myth created by Murray himself. The papers wax lyrical about him all the time, despite the fact he said himself very early on that he considers himself Scottish and not British.
 
Feel a bit gutted even though I've heavily criticised KP in the past. He's great to watch when on form. But there has to be some looking at the future after that ashes tour.
 
Feel a bit gutted even though I've heavily criticised KP in the past. He's great to watch when on form. But there has to be some looking at the future after that ashes tour.

The problem is it seems the squad is picked based upon who is mates with who. Fair enough to Broad he had a comparatively decent Ashes but in the previous few tests he's been dire. Why's he picked? The same goes for Finn. They can't have it both ways. I think it's unfortunate they have alienated their best batsman, though I think Pietersen played his part in that as well, and I don't think there's an adequate replacement for him. If we can't replace Trott, how are we going to replace KP? Root hasn't been the answer and if Stoakes is as badly mis-managed as Root has been he will go the same way.
 
Feel a bit gutted even though I've heavily criticised KP in the past. He's great to watch when on form. But there has to be some looking at the future after that ashes tour.

The guy is only 33, if they are looking to future drop everyone else as well then Bell, Anderson, Prior etc. This is not about the future, this is something else. Giles was one of the people at the meeting now watch him take charge and take England back to the dark days.
 
His Ashes innings in the 2005 series were brilliant, and some of his ODI innings in SA amidst the crowd boos and insults were awesome. England will be poorer for this decision, because squad camaraderie only takes you so much. I hope they prove me wrong though.
 
The guy is only 33, if they are looking to future drop everyone else as well then Bell, Anderson, Prior etc. This is not about the future, this is something else. Giles was one of the people at the meeting now watch him take charge and take England back to the dark days.

TheGame, I thought you were an Indian expat in the US for some reason. It's not as if you can't support England of course, but you didn't seem the British type.
 
To be fair he does seem like a cancer in the dressing room and he was woefully irresponsible in Australia.