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Great win for India. Australia need to shake up the batting line up. Need to drop Marnus for a start who has been out of form for a while now and McSweeney isn't a test match opener.
And bring in whom? Mcsweeney I agree with, but who could possibly come in for Marnus? Bancroft, Harris, Renshaw etc are all shite
 
Some big names had no takers in this IPL.
Was surprised Bairstow didn’t get picked, but then realized he’s out of form and 35 years old. A 3 year contract at that price seems far fetched. Same with Warner at 38.
The 13 year old who got picked by RR sounds more like a PR move. Hopefully the kid can stay disciplined and make it big.
 
Some big names had no takers in this IPL.
Was surprised Bairstow didn’t get picked, but then realized he’s out of form and 35 years old. A 3 year contract at that price seems far fetched. Same with Warner at 38.
The 13 year old who got picked by RR sounds more like a PR move. Hopefully the kid can stay disciplined and make it big.
Shardul Thakur was very surprising for me. Did he piss someone off? Been told by India he’s not in the plan.. he’s just 33
 
Shardul Thakur was very surprising for me. Did he piss someone off? Been told by India he’s not in the plan.. he’s just 33
It could be cause he actually isnt good. He had a semi good season with CSK a few years back but he is very expensive generally.
 
It could be cause he actually isnt good. He had a semi good season with CSK a few years back but he is very expensive generally.
I agree he isn't great but he's better than a lot of players that do end up in the starting 11.
 
This Aussie team has probably reached the end of its cycle, too many players that are out of form and maybe too old (Ussie and sadly Smith might be finished, Marnus is way out of form, and Lyon might be done as well)

India are a very good chance to win this series.

Also it has been 10 years since Phillip Hughes got hit by a bouncer and died, Australian cricket lost one good player that day and in another world he would probably playing his last series this summer.
 
Maxwell said "Bumrah is going to go down as potentially the best fast bowler of all time - maybe not with the amount of wickets he takes in every format - but for the guys that have played against him, it's just so difficult, so difficult - A complete package". [The Grade Cricketer]


Maxwell knows who the GOAT is..
 
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I'm going to take you up on this statement.

Who do you think has a regular place in the XI in any of the franchisee, has a base price = 2 cr. and isn't as good as Shardul Thakur?

The price doesn't matter because all franchises buy bits and pieces after they've built up their squad with about 90% of the budget. They don't buy because they need, but because they have the money. Most reserve players are unused. IPL squads have 25 players, but play 15.

I wouldn't know CSK's exact 11, but they'll pick 1(or sometimes 2) players from the set of unknown, uncapped reserves. Here's their all-rounder/bowler list:
Anshul Khamboj
Gurjapneet Singh
Vijay Shankar
Ramakrishna Ghosh
Kamlesh Nagarkoti
Gurjapneet Singh
Mukesh Chowdary

I would on any day of the week rather have Shardhul Thakur sitting on my bench/be the 11th player than pick 10 guys like this at an average of 50L. These players never play, they never get retained, they are rarely bought again.

Shardhul Thakur was good enough to start for India in test cricket a year ago. He's won games for India with the bat at the Gabba, Lord's. He has five wicket hauls away. He's 33 years old.

If I am sitting at the table, I am buying Shardhul Thakur for 2 crore, not Vijay Shankar and Gurjapneet Singh for 2 crore.

CSK is an example. Every team has a large set of domestic players like this, from which they have to pick one in the 11, and the rest sporadically get chances. Surely the delta Shardhul offers is significantly more than the 11th player in the team. Likes of Shadabh Jakati, Sudeep Tyagi, Manpreet Gony played entire seasons for CSK.
 
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The price doesn't matter because all franchises buy bits and pieces after they've built up their squad with about 90% of the budget. They don't buy because they need, but because they have the money. Most reserve players are unused. IPL squads have 25 players, but play 15.

I wouldn't know CSK's exact 11, but they'll pick 1(or sometimes 2) players from the set of unknown, uncapped reserves. Here's their all-rounder/bowler list:
Anshul Khamboj
Gurjapneet Singh
Vijay Shankar
Ramakrishna Ghosh
Kamlesh Nagarkoti
Gurjapneet Singh
Mukesh Chowdary

I would on any day of the week rather have Shardhul Thakur sitting on my bench/be the 11th player than pick 10 guys like this at an average of 50L. These players never play, they never get retained, they are rarely bought again.

Shardhul Thakur was good enough to start for India in test cricket a year ago. He's won games for India with the bat at the Gabba, Lord's. He has five wicket hauls away. He's 33 years old.

If I am sitting at the table, I am buying Shardhul Thakur for 2 crore, not Vijay Shankar and Gurjapneet Singh for 2 crore.

CSK is an example. Every team has a large set of domestic players like this, from which they have to pick one in the 11, and the rest sporadically get chances. Surely the delta Shardhul offers is significantly more than the 11th player in the team. Likes of Shadabh Jakati, Sudeep Tyagi, Manpreet Gony played entire seasons for CSK.

Leaving aside the fact that Shardul's recent form has been pretty poor (the most recent SMAT numbers are 2/50 in a 170 track and 1/43 against Goa; Going back to the last IPL, I remember him bowling a 1/60 odd spell in our final match against RCB).

Let's focus on the two players you've identified - Vijay Shankar and Gurjap. Considering the world of IPL squad building, do we agree that they don't have the same role as Shardul?

Vijay Shankar is a middle-order accumulator who probably wouldn't be a part of the XI. However, he could do a steady job at 5/6 on a bowling wicket. Is he the best pick we could've made? Arguably not. Would Shardul play the same role? Absolutely not.

Personally, I find Gurjap exciting. He is a tall left-arm bowler (6'3") who bowls at 135+ and handles the new ball and death overs for TN. He's probably a backup for Khaleel if he gets injured. Considering the value that a left-arm bowler brings, I wanted CSK to pick him. Again, would Shardul play the same role? I don't think so. I've seen him in bits and pieces across Ranji (office boredom + Jio), and I think he'll be a dark horse if he gets to play this season.

I like Shardul. He's the ultimate cricketer who optimizes his talents and built himself up from his bootstrap. But considering where he was brought at the auction, with a base price of 2Cr., he priced himself out of many squads. I would have gladly taken a chance on him if he had priced himself at 75L.
 
The price doesn't matter because all franchises buy bits and pieces after they've built up their squad with about 90% of the budget. They don't buy because they need, but because they have the money. Most reserve players are unused. IPL squads have 25 players, but play 15.

I wouldn't know CSK's exact 11, but they'll pick 1(or sometimes 2) players from the set of unknown, uncapped reserves. Here's their all-rounder/bowler list:
Anshul Khamboj
Gurjapneet Singh
Vijay Shankar
Ramakrishna Ghosh
Kamlesh Nagarkoti
Gurjapneet Singh
Mukesh Chowdary

I would on any day of the week rather have Shardhul Thakur sitting on my bench/be the 11th player than pick 10 guys like this at an average of 50L. These players never play, they never get retained, they are rarely bought again.

Shardhul Thakur was good enough to start for India in test cricket a year ago. He's won games for India with the bat at the Gabba, Lord's. He has five wicket hauls away. He's 33 years old.

If I am sitting at the table, I am buying Shardhul Thakur for 2 crore, not Vijay Shankar and Gurjapneet Singh for 2 crore.

CSK is an example. Every team has a large set of domestic players like this, from which they have to pick one in the 11, and the rest sporadically get chances. Surely the delta Shardhul offers is significantly more than the 11th player in the team. Likes of Shadabh Jakati, Sudeep Tyagi, Manpreet Gony played entire seasons for CSK.
Even though I shit on Shardul, I completely agree with this. And as a CSK fan I would rather have him over the complete list of turds you mentioned. And one turd in particular that doesn’t flush is Vijay Shankar. I dislike him so much and can’t believe CSK paid over a crore for him.
 
Even though I shit on Shardul, I completely agree with this. And as a CSK fan I would rather have him over the complete list of turds you mentioned. And one turd in particular that doesn’t flush is Vijay Shankar. I dislike him so much and can’t believe CSK paid over a crore for him.
Hehe. I chortled imagining Vijay Shankar as an Unflushable.

Heavily disagree with the entire list being turds though. There's some young and talented players there, we (CSK) could use some young and talented players!
 
How did Iyer get picked up for that price!?

Watched him bat for Lancs last year and he looked worse than me.
 
Same with Starc last year and Pant this year. What have they done to deserve that high of a price?

Pant deserves it, he's a superstar.

Iyer on the other hand should be on a lot less. They have overvalued his importance on captaincy.
 
They've kept the openers together then? Would have been a huge call to change that, feels like the right one.

Yes. Virat didn't play the warm-up game over the weekend. Jaiswal and KL opened, with Gill coming in at 3. Rohit batted at 4.

I thought they might drop Gill down the order, but they've gone with what looks like the most sensible order.

Jadeja also got a hit - so I think there's a chance he plays.

KL, Jaiswal, Gill, Virat, Rohit, Rishabh, Nitish, Jadeja + the 3 pacers is a pretty formidable team on form.
 
Yes. Virat didn't play the warm-up game over the weekend. Jaiswal and KL opened, with Gill coming in at 3. Rohit batted at 4.

I thought they might drop Gill down the order, but they've gone with what looks like the most sensible order.

Jadeja also got a hit - so I think there's a chance he plays.

KL, Jaiswal, Gill, Virat, Rohit, Rishabh, Nitish, Jadeja + the 3 pacers is a pretty formidable team on form.

If only Hardik played test matches.
 
So Rohit at 5. Good move.
Yes. Agreed. If they keep him there though. some thought process might be that we need to start KL as the opener from here onwards and phase out Rohit. Since Jaiswal is so attacking, we dont need Rohit as well. Still need to find a dependable #5.
your line up looks good and was good to see Rana keeping up the form.
 
Yes. Agreed. If they keep him there though. some thought process might be that we need to start KL as the opener from here onwards and phase out Rohit. Since Jaiswal is so attacking, we dont need Rohit as well. Still need to find a dependable #5.
your line up looks good and was good to see Rana keeping up the form.

It wouldn't be a bad idea at all for India to place Ashwin for Sundar. That batting looks like it has enough runs in it, and Ashwin's decent with the bat.
 
Amazing stats, Seales has been one of the bright hopes of WIndies for a while now.


unless I am mistaken, he did well in Aus too right?

Looking at WI vs BD series, firmly believe that SA, BD, WI, SL need to play more test matches against Top 3.
 
It wouldn't be a bad idea at all for India to place Ashwin for Sundar. That batting looks like it has enough runs in it, and Ashwin's decent with the bat.
Nah, I dont think Ashwin is a good choice in Aus, especially with a pink ball, may be in Sydney. Washy is the right choice, he's been in good touch and can keep scoring down.
I am having a hard time believing in our batting spots for a pink ball game. Going to be a low scorer game if seam movement is too much.
How I wish Shami was fit to play.