That is what I would do but expect Ali to start over Lynch
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- Thread starter EdWeatherall
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Not long to go now...
Problem is the one Nasser (I think) just alluded to on comms. The next pitch is supposed to be slow and low, and two spinners will probably have to play. We could end up in a situation where we pick that side (which we should have played this test) and feck up the selection again.
I'd also rejig the batting line up again. It's not working. Bairstow at three is fair enough, but Stokes is in no nick and Buttler still feels like a luxury at 6. Move Buttler to 5 have Stokes at 6 (although there's an argument that Foakes should be at 6 and Stokes at 7). If Buttler isn't good enough to bat at 5, he's not good enough to play as a specialist bat.
This batting is beyond a joke
Someone remind me of the laws here, I thought I remembered seeing that the boundary is where the rope is supposed to be, not where it is moved to?
In which case that should have been a six?
In which case that should have been a six?
Scenes when Chase ends with an 8-for
Moeen Ali having his roots in Pakistan is cut from the same cloth much like the Pakistan Cricket players. Very talented and an exciting player but highly inconsistent. I've not seen many Cricketers having lost their wicket so cheaply on a consistent basis. He's either amazing or infuriating when batting.
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My first thoughts. Oh, well. Hardly matters.
Cricket needs West Indies back to being competitive again.
That was satisfying. Happiest this team has made me in quite some time 
Well done England takes some doing making Chase look like a prime Shane Warne
Yeah they should look at the pitch of course and then make a selection. If it's conducive to spin I'd put Ali in for Woakes. With the turn being slow and low England really need Leach to control things, Ali usually flourishes when there's bounce on offer. I'd be reluctant to change the order too much, batsmen can be a bit sensitive over such things.
Interestingly I think Buttler out of everyone would be the most likely to succeed as an emergency top order batsman, he's the one who seemingly learns the conditions and adapts the quickest. Stokes, Bairstow and Ali are all really experienced players and I fear if they haven't figured out their game's by now, they never will.
Too often now when the end is nigh they don’t give a tossWhat kind of shot was that from Moeen
Lose in 4 days and have an extra rest day rather than come back and do it all again on day 5 and probably lose anyway
I agree with your point in general, but Ali in particular does demonstrate quite poor shot selection at times. This isn’t the first time I’ve watched him and thought “what a brainless shot.” Thing is IMO he’s a very talented batsman, so why he self inflicts these fates on himself I do not know.
South Africa Think Pakistan were unlucky with rain the previous match as well
Think Pakistan were unlucky with rain the previous match as wellSAs ODI team seems rubbish.
Well that was ridiculous - he didn't even turn anything.
I think the problem is though that we've tried the softly softly pandering approach and players have made the same mistakes for the entire time Bayliss has been here. Even Root has gone to shit over the past few years.
I think for too long mediocre returns have been tolerated on the basis of talent and there has to be a greater emphasis placed on not throwing your wicket away. There's too many good players with far too mediocre records.
From director through to coach and finally captain I have little faith that any of them will play a firm hand. The opportunity to change will come after the World Cup when Bayliss goes.
Sad day for ICC missing out on their glorified blockbuster match up.
Its really not that bad. We barely play Pakistan as it is. The WC games are quite the spectacle.
"Who won the World Twenty20 in 2020?" It will be a popular quiz question for centuries to come.
It's just that the ICC have previously admitted that Ind-Pak is too big to not have at ICC events. I get the viewpoint but rigging draws is not the way to go. They would have been 'drawn' together if they weren't the top two ranked teams.
Interesting piece on Cricinfo about England. It's a bit rambly but most of the comments are fair.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25880522/outsider-asks-going-english-cricket
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25880522/outsider-asks-going-english-cricket
Curran or Leach, Denly is replacing Jennings, and assume Broad for the departed Rashid
Burns
Denly
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Foakes
Curran/ Leach
Broad
Anderson
Burns
Denly
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Foakes
Curran/ Leach
Broad
Anderson
I mean England aren't great but he's been waiting to write this piece for ages. India would pick Moeen would they, they didn't even pick Jadeja at Southampton when Ashwin wasn't fully fit.
Agree, it feels like the piece has been shoehorned out a bit. Agree with most of his comments though.
It's harsh but I'd drop Foakes, move Stokes and Buttler down one and move Bairstow down to five. Butter to be main keeper but Bairstow can deputise when needed.
We'd need to go and find a new no.3 but hopefully there's someone out there.
Curran still shouldn't be in as a bowler, be it third or fourth seamer.
Our batting without Kohli holding it together, is utter shambles. Not sure what utter mediocrity like Rayudu is doing in the team while the likes of Rahane sit out.
Glad to see this happening. Our middle order is full of mediocrity. This will raise some eyes.
All out for 92
I don't get why Rayudu and Karthik are #4 and 5. Surely there are better players than them
I don't get why Rayudu and Karthik are #4 and 5. Surely there are better players than them
How come no Pant?
He's good enough as a fourth seamer but I would have preferred to have seen Woakes over him. Jimmy and Stokes will be still be knackered after the last test.
England lost the toss, and bat first. Curran keeps his place. As expected Denly and Broad replace Jennings and Rashid
Has Rashid retired again?
Gone home for the birth of his child.
Pitch looks very green.
Here we go
Is there a team in world cricket bar India that can bat?