They really do. It's a huge craze over here. But I don't think it generates emotion and feeling the way an India game would. It just doesn't matter like that does. It's a sort of 'cricket party'.
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They really do. It's a huge craze over here. But I don't think it generates emotion and feeling the way an India game would. It just doesn't matter like that does. It's a sort of 'cricket party'.
But how do people feel about the possibility of games being fixed? It should turn off any sane person. Really though, it's a huge mess. It really is. The news of match fixing is saddening.
what utter rubbish ,has he got the proof to back this claim up ?
If he has not and is just flapping his lip , then he should be banned from any sort of Cricket for life.
He'll be done for slander unless he can back up his claims. I get the feeling he's just a moron of the highest order. That type of mud-slinging may work in Pakistan but on the global stage it makes you look like a buffoon.
I don't know what wr8_utd is talking about to be honest. I have no idea if IPL games are fixed and neither does anyone here. There's been some corruption in its administration and there's a probe going on into that.
As for this whole match fixing episode, I'm really not sure. Most people perceive Pakistan in a different light than they do other countries (I'm sure you know why) but it's bound to dent the games image everywhere. My reaction is of indifference. Because I expect Pakistani cricket to have worms all over it like a rash. But I don't believe it's the case with the other countries. It is then it is sad for the sport, but given my low interest in it, won't really affect me.
Having been a cricket fan all my life I find all this very sad... Butt's comments today leave me with only one reaction...Pakistan please just feck off..you are a disgrace to your nation, cricket and sport in general.
There is no way I would want to play the one dayer today.
The game should be canx , but dont think it wll , the best thing that can happen i it rains all day.
Pakistan should be banned from all cricket for 12 months and the PCB should disbanded and has for Butt he has no place in world cricket.
Pakistan should have to propve that they have there house in order to be let beack into first class cricket.
The game should be canx , but dont think it wll , the best thing that can happen i it rains all day.
Pakistan should be banned from all cricket for 12 months and the PCB should disbanded and has for Butt he has no place in world cricket.
Pakistan should have to propve that they have there house in order to be let beack into first class cricket.
Agree. I dont think England should be playing them now.
Ijaz Butt is a disgrace. He is throwing dirt at England just because his players are corrupt.
IPL is most definitely fixed. The way some of the teams throw matches is ridiculous.
Chennai were throwing away some matches for fun this year
Spastic.
IPL is most definitely fixed. The way some of the teams throw matches is ridiculous.
Chennai were throwing away some matches for fun this year
Which ones?
Highly doubt the IPL matches are fixed. There's a decent chance of spot fixing happening, but the only possibility of that happening is if the bookies target the local players, because the other players are played an insane amount of money.
And I'm not sure the local players would be approached because most of them don't have enough of an impact on the match. Easy for Amir to bowl a no-ball with Butt in on it.. but some Rayudu or Suman aren't going to be in on it along with Sachin or Gilchrist. Too many variables. And all the 8 captains are people of integrity(Warne's had his problems, but fixing's a whole new level) and the captain's key if you want to spot fix.
ECB are going to sue Ijaz Butt
Angry England hit back at Butt remarks | Cricket News | England v Pakistan 2010 | Cricinfo.com
Angry England hit back at Butt remarks | Cricket News | England v Pakistan 2010 | Cricinfo.com
No suprise. Butt should be sacked, fecking embarassment.
A solid start for Pakistan, could really build from this at 77/1 (18 overs)
172-5 after 39 overs.
Despite being a Pak fan, I think it's a real joy to watch Swann bowl. Top player, who seems to get better and better every game and he is a great character (his interviews are great to listen to, no diplomatic answers, just tells it as it is).
Despite being a Pak fan, I think it's a real joy to watch Swann bowl. Top player, who seems to get better and better every game and he is a great character (his interviews are great to listen to, no diplomatic answers, just tells it as it is).
Pak finish with 265 from their overs.
Some great shots from Razzaq at the end helped Pak to a competitive total, Afridi also hit some big shots.
Some great shots from Razzaq at the end helped Pak to a competitive total, Afridi also hit some big shots.
Saw the last over.. wtf was that bowling from Bresnan? and why was Strauss not making a single fielding change?
Razzaq hit every single ball to the offside boundary except one that went straight.. and he didn't even bother making fielding changes. Bresnan just kept going back to his mark and coming back with more rubbish.
Blatantly on the take from the bookies.
Great catch from Yousuf gets the big wicket of Morgan.
Eng need 47 from 37. Pak need 2 wickets to level the series...
Eng need 47 from 37. Pak need 2 wickets to level the series...
All over, Pak win by 38 runs and level the series. Good performance overall, bowled well and Razzaq hit some big shots to get the total to 260+. Strauss played well again, Davies did well, Swann bowled beautifully, but Colly failed yet again.
This has turned out to be a good series, shame it will be overshadowed by off the field allegations and what that buffoon Butt said.
This has turned out to be a good series, shame it will be overshadowed by off the field allegations and what that buffoon Butt said.
Wow, what a turn up for the books this will be if Pakistan win the series.
Razzaq was the key tonight, 42 runs off the last 2 overs, of which I think he got 40 runs, pushed Pakistan out to a challenging total.
Collingwood is struggling worse than KP at this point in time.
Razzaq was the key tonight, 42 runs off the last 2 overs, of which I think he got 40 runs, pushed Pakistan out to a challenging total.
Collingwood is struggling worse than KP at this point in time.
Wow.. depressing watch for a cricket fan. Woolmer looks like he was clearly involved as well.
I think a possible solution would be for gambling to be legalized in India. It'll be more transparent and so should be easier to spot dodgy betting patterns.
Well, there were some theories his death was a 'hit', because he was going to identify players involved in match-fixing.
There was also a rumour Inzamam sat on him, but I don't think people took that too seriously
How come this Butt geezer knows so well what's being said in 'the bookies circle'? Considering bookmaking is illegal in his country.
Which of course is a large part of the problem. Legal (and honest) bookies in England detect irregular betting patterns quickly, close the books, and pass the details on to the police.
Butt needs to be challenged as to how he knows what the illegal bookies of Pakistan are saying.
Which of course is a large part of the problem. Legal (and honest) bookies in England detect irregular betting patterns quickly, close the books, and pass the details on to the police.
Butt needs to be challenged as to how he knows what the illegal bookies of Pakistan are saying.
Well, there were some theories his death was a 'hit', because he was going to identify players involved in match-fixing.
There was also a rumour Inzamam sat on him, but I don't think people took that too seriously
Australia tour India for a few tests next month so should be great to finally watch some good old school cricket after awhile for me. Hopefully it's engaging like it used to be.
Well, the SA bookie said the people that were left after the initial meeting with the bookie(s) were the fixers. Whether Woolmer was one of them is something we'll never know - unless that bookie spills the beans, that is. But yeah, it's very depressing, apparently Cronje protected some his players, although that doesn't explain why Gibbs and the other SA player were charged. And I'm not sure legalising will solve the issue but I'd still make it legal.... it's not exactly something you can ban or put a lid on.
And Cronje's and Woolmer's deaths were more than a bit suspect - you can understand why so many conspiracy theories circulated.
Well, the SA bookie said the people that were left after the initial meeting with the bookie(s) were the fixers. Whether Woolmer was one of them is something we'll never know - unless that bookie spills the beans, that is. But yeah, it's very depressing, apparently Cronje protected some his players, although that doesn't explain why Gibbs and the other SA player were charged. And I'm not sure legalising will solve the issue but I'd still make it legal.... it's not exactly something you can ban or put a lid on.
And Cronje's and Woolmer's deaths were more than a bit suspect - you can understand why so many conspiracy theories circulated.
Seems like a mindless blabbering. A sane person wouldn't go about blaming a team that is still hosting his nation's team despite all the allegation surrounding the team. i wouldn't be surprised if he retracts or claims to be misquoted by the media.
He is just making it worse for himself and the team.
There's already a talk here to implement this strategy. Not only it would be more transparent but also it would also mean revenue for our corrupt govt. although by taking this move it would be ensure that people dont get crazy and start putting their houses on line for betting.
Daily Mail discussing what happened between Trott and Riaz:
Daily Mail right to say there is a problem with the Pak game, but as I said earlier, these allegations of fixing will stretch across most nations, not just Pak.
Trott is a right idiot for saying that, no need to make such a comment on such a sensitive matter.
Daily Mail right to say there is a problem with the Pak game, but as I said earlier, these allegations of fixing will stretch across most nations, not just Pak.
Riaz is a big bloke, surely he should have belted Trott, as for Trott, shut up mate...you are south african. We know all about honesty when it comes to South African cricket players.
As for Ijaz Butt, he needs to be locked up and the keys thrown away, completely clueless.
As for Ijaz Butt, he needs to be locked up and the keys thrown away, completely clueless.
I guess that's sledging
It's a bit over the top. Sledging shouldn't be so personal, it should be funny/stupid like Flintoff saying "mind the windows Tino, mind the windows" to Tino Best.
Nah, sledging is personal. McGrath baiting Sarwan, and Sarwan replying in kind.
But sledging even before the match had started
, especially regarding an issue that would/could result in the player being labeled a CHEAT, and banned from the sport was a bit OTT.Nah, sledging is personal. McGrath baiting Sarwan, and Sarwan replying in kind.
But sledging even before the match had started
That's the point I wanted to make, I didn't phrase it properly.
Was Sarwan the player who made a comment about McGrath's wife? I recall one player taunt McGrath about his wife's battle with cancer, and I thought that was a disgusting thing to do.
England have been involved in some 'underhand' tactics a bit recently. There was Trescothick's revelation england used mints to shine the ball in the 2005 ashes. Also, when India last toured England, there was some incident with jelly-beans. Don't know why that caused such a fuss though...
But sledging even before the match had started
You've got to expect that...and so have the other three, whether cleared or not, they're tainted goods now, just ask John Higgins
Quote is from the Guardian.
Afridi
I hate Afridi. Overrated player who thinks the world of himself. Was rubbish for so much of his career, now that he's become a half decent player, he think he's something special.