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Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Don't be so quick to put it on the other 14 clubs. A lot of the stuff opposing cancelling the season is actually being generated by the media who are pro-restart.
Anyway what was hilarious in the article was the bottom 6 were suddenly okay to restart when it was suggested there'd be no relegation. They're certain the other option is voiding but If the FA really wants to strongarm these clubs they could propose to decide relegation on PPG and watch the bottom 3 suddenly become pro-restart in any venue
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Carragher pointed this out a few days - they're happy to take the TV money but want to rule out relegation.
Looking to season 20/21 and the likelihood of most, if not all, of it being played BCD how do people think this could affect their team and the overall competition. I think we may get some strange results next year and to compound it imagine if they did promote Leeds and WBA this season with no relegation that leaves open the possibility of 5 teams going down during a season played BCD. Anyone a little concerned by what that might mean for their team?
I think City would be strong favourites to win it next season in this case as BCD would affect them least (could even be a help for them) - Arsenal could also benefit. Gary Neville thinks that with Utd's financial power they could be one of a very small number of clubs able to spend big in this summer's depressed market and this would put them into a position to challenge next season.
I think City would be strong favourites to win it next season in this case as BCD would affect them least (could even be a help for them) - Arsenal could also benefit. Gary Neville thinks that with Utd's financial power they could be one of a very small number of clubs able to spend big in this summer's depressed market and this would put them into a position to challenge next season.
It's an interesting thought. You'd have to worry about your lot given Anfield giving you so much over the years?
Also to all those who are saying write off this season, concentrate on next season now, etc, we have the massive issue of the 'second wave', which by all accounts will coincide nicely just as the new season is getting going, so for survive sake they should very much be making the most of any window of opportunity that may be on offer this year.
What the feck are you on about?
What the feck would doctors, scientists or health departments know about formulating a plan to organise a football season, that all participating football clubs can agree on to either resume or curtail a football season?
What i did say was the PL have had roughly 8 weeks to formulate a plan and they've did nothing with that time. They could have been making separate proposals for how to restart the league and how to end it if it can't be restarted. This could have been done and voted on in April by all 20 clubs and put to the government for approval. And yet here we are in mid May when the season is supposed to be wrapping up and they still have nothing agreed upon. Germany have made plans and decisions on their leagues, as have Holland and other countries.
As i said they wasted weeks and are now scrambling around trying to cobble some semblance of a plan together and allegedly threatening clubs who vote against said plan.
Wow indeed you need to work on your comprehension mate.
This is a nonsense, you can't change rules to to a league that has started with another set of rules.
Money is forcing this restart, the season should be voided, award the dippers the PL trophy if we must, current top four/five qualify for Europe and the relegation placed teams are relegated.
It's an act of god, nobody can be blamed for this, tough shite for the unlucky teams. This virus needs to be firmly under control first then start a fresh league once it's safe for everybody.
And trust me I'm missing football as much as the next guy.
Money is forcing this restart, the season should be voided, award the dippers the PL trophy if we must, current top four/five qualify for Europe and the relegation placed teams are relegated.
It's an act of god, nobody can be blamed for this, tough shite for the unlucky teams. This virus needs to be firmly under control first then start a fresh league once it's safe for everybody.
And trust me I'm missing football as much as the next guy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52592567
And this is how it's all going wrong. Talks break down in Scotland with no agreement between clubs.
And this is how it's all going wrong. Talks break down in Scotland with no agreement between clubs.
Funny how they replaced the crowd by massive ads for that car company
At least Scotland is including clubs from all divisions at the discussion table. PL or FA is not like this and reeks of ignorance, arrogance, and coincidentally enough, is harming the integrity of association football in England.
If Aguero and Laporte don't want to play they could always ask to be furloghed?
Couldn’t agree more with this. It’s tough but I just can’t see how a return will happen. Of course legal battles will happen but it just had to be this way.
Absolutely. It would be a real leveller for us. We've scored more 90 min + winners in the PL era than anyone and most at Anfield. Attacking the Kop in the 2nd half wouldn't mean anything BCD. From Utd's perspective you would lose not only the biggest amount of home support but also (I think) the highest ratio of home to away support. Imagine instead of battling for the title next season we were both battling to avoid the drop!
Given the greed and self interest, at the expense of decency, health and safety, on show by the money men and certain clubs, certain fans, I think it's fair to say that all right minded people will see this season and any conclusion as eternally damaged, disgraced and unworthy of being recognised. In the minds of all good, honest people this season will be forever blanked out.
Yeah, never got this. If you want this season cancelled how can you still say the next should restart? Under what conditions will it be safer to restart in august? If the virus is the primary concern such a person should want all football cancelled indefinitely till it's safe to do so
It's rubbish, but better than nothing. If there's nothing to play for in terms of relegation though it's aimless
It's possible that could happen, but the difference going into a new season could be and should be all teams agreeing beforehand that if theres another bad outbreak then the season will be abandoned. Regardless of how little or much of it has been completed or where any particular team happens to be in the league table.
That knowledge would be a luxury the teams didn't have going into this season.
Nobody knows what future brings. If the virus becomes worse or comes back just stop the season again. No problem with that. Write down a paragraph about this kind of situations before next season. Just because we should prepare for next season doesn't mean we should be bangning our heads against the wall just to continue this one. There are to many problems that are not even near fixed for this season to keep going. And I'm not even talking about safety of the players and other people around.
Put a stop for this circus of a season and start working out how to fix standings. Give trophy to Liverpool. Move on.
Yeah, it won't be the same again for a while. I will miss the day out and people I go with, haven't seen any of football family since the CIty game and I am not really sure when we will all be able to meet up again.
According to the Times, BoJo is set to announce that all travelers to the UK will need to be quarantined for 14 days. Will this apply to footballers as well (those who are yet to return) or do they get special treatment again?
The Telegraph also has an article about PL footballers getting test results in 24 hours and that being something that won't go down well.
The Telegraph also has an article about PL footballers getting test results in 24 hours and that being something that won't go down well.
I had to read it 5 times to make sense of it.
Up the Posh!
So, did Liverpool win the league yet? So far the Corona situation has not been too kind to their dreams, it is not inconceivable to think they might be in the relegation zone when all this is over.
I know. It's like he's trying to invent a new language
Calm the hell down. Read my other post. I said if it's unsafe the season should be canceled. I said in the above post that if the season is canceled due to teams refusing to play at neutral venues which is to stop fans congregating outside which is to save thousands of lives ironically it would be infuriating. Don't have a go at me and accuse me of being selfish when I didn't say bring football back at all costs.
Covid19 is here to stay, more than a million people in the US have tested positive for it and at the rate this is going there will 3 million in two weeks.
That is too higher number to stop it, I was hearing there is a new strain in China now that is different.
There is a reason we can't stop the flu.
That is too higher number to stop it, I was hearing there is a new strain in China now that is different.
There is a reason we can't stop the flu.
Have you not seen the league table? We are 3 points off Chelsea who are in 4th place with 9 games to play. Also one or two teams have a chance of avoiding relegation. How the hell is that nothing to play for. My stance has always been bring football back if it is safe to do so and not because teams won't adjust in completing the season due to the pandemic. If the government or someone else deems it unsafe and the premier league has to be cancelled, that is fair enough.
It's not necessarily bias. In a new season, the rules can be the same from start to finish, COVID changes included. That would not be the case if the league is resumed with all the proposed changes. The integrity of the season will be compromised.
It's like completely removing VAR 70% into the season, after teams have been affected by it. It devalues the competition.
Its not just this season. It will be the next too that will be cancelled.
I can see that when we start playing football again, we will see teams using primarily players brought up from their youth sides.
This Covid - 19 is going to be the great leveller.
I can see that when we start playing football again, we will see teams using primarily players brought up from their youth sides.
This Covid - 19 is going to be the great leveller.
Which part of it's not safe to do so that you don't understand? Mask/test/etc are just the best we can do at the moment if you're desperately needs to do your job (NHS, Vital jobs). The best case scenario for football players is to stay at home and not hugging and groping each other playing football.
There are 101 ways to finish the season without risking lives. What's wrong with PPG? What's wrong with League table as it is? It's not fair but playing BCD isn't fair anyway for a lot of teams.
And for us being 3 pts off Chelsea you want to play 90 games risking 2000 people and maybe more just so "United can still finished 4th (if we finished 4th)". It's only football, so what if we missed 5th. From a united fans of view I don't really care about CL, there wont be CL anytime soon, and if finishing 5th means Liverpool doesn't get their trophy so be it.
We're going in circle, you're the "If they think it's safe then it's not my fault I want football", while I think it's best to just "feck football altogether for now"
Each to their own.
Well are you a expert on this virus and the premier leagues protocols being used if it restarts. I imagine not. Until someone with credibility comes out and say football isn't safe to come back, I won't believe some random redcafe forum user.
With some posts I have the impressions that on the football field players would be as endangered as soldiers are in a war zone...
The everyday risk of most of the people that go to work, use public transport even wearing masks and keeping distancing rules exceed that of a group of players who (and with that the people of the club and their closest contacts) get tested very regular.
The everyday risk of most of the people that go to work, use public transport even wearing masks and keeping distancing rules exceed that of a group of players who (and with that the people of the club and their closest contacts) get tested very regular.
If there's expert on virus and "actually safe protocols" we won't be having 1 million death worldwide.
But hey, if they think it's safe it's ON
what ever could have given you that idea?
fecking hell, how have you killed off 800,000 people?
Oh it's only 300k and up. Let's play footballa!
No it isn't, void is a nuclear option. Which is a reason why no professional league will carry out that option.
You cannot just pretend 3/4 of a season did not happen. Those games were played under normal competitive fair conditions.
F1 is an example of a sport that changes rules during its season, I don't like it but it does happen.
Personally I think we in very unusual difficult circumstances, and there needs to be compromises made, I feel whats been put on the table is reasonable, and the clubs refusing know full well what they asking for cannot be given, if the EPL backed down and said ok you can play at home, they would then refuse on the ground there is no fans, and stating without fans they don't have enough advantage so relegation should be off the table. They just want to stay up and using this as a cheap way of doing it.
If the league is abandoned I know my club LCFC will get a CL spot, but I still want it to be completed as I believe its the fairest way forward.
It be interesting to see if the issue gets forced e.g. imposing relegation on all six unless they fall in line. Obviously they trying to get everyone's agreements so relegated clubs don't go to the courts end of season.
Indeed, there seems to be some really hardcore opposition to football returning, I think a big part of it is that a lot of people think if fans cannot attend, then the game shouldn't be played, they have a mindset, you with play with fans in attendance or don't play at all. Then you have the fans of clubs that can be relegated, don't want Liverpool to get their first EPL title or have nothing to play for, and that explains a lot of whats going on.
What you describe is abandoning not void. I wouldn't be against your idea, although I prefer the season been finished, this is better than pretending 3/4 of the season means nothing.
It's hardly cheap when relegation means losing huge amounts of money and opportunity. It's only logical to insist that outside circumstances shouldn't dictate your fate in that manner, especially since the restart is purely due to money and all sporting integrity is effectively gone.
It makes sense if you put yourself in those clubs' shoes. In fact, it wasn't that long ago that Leicester was in a similar position at the bottom of the table.