OR we just simply thinks it's stupid to risk lives just for entertainment.
Off course your stance has nothing to do with Liverpool winning the league this year, because you only want what's fair for everyone.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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OR we just simply thinks it's stupid to risk lives just for entertainment.
Off course your stance has nothing to do with Liverpool winning the league this year, because you only want what's fair for everyone.
Will TV money be fully paid when the EPL does not deliver all matches?
In the Bundesliga they need the quarter of the sum they get for the last matches. They already loose the money for the tickets! The clubs all want to play!
In the Bundesliga they need the quarter of the sum they get for the last matches. They already loose the money for the tickets! The clubs all want to play!
If this happened in our great escape situation my view would be the same, I perhaps wouldn't be so public about it, but it would be the same.
It is cheap as its a means of avoiding relegation without football deciding it.
I am shocked you used the word integrity, as either voiding the season, or removing the risk of relegation does not have integrity when 3/4 of the season has been played.
If you even read my posts I have even stated LCFC probably dont want to play the rest of the season as we get CL if its abandoned now, but I think its better to play it out, even if it means we drop out of the top 4.
In terms of integrity from best to work.
Play out rest of season as normal (cannot be done due to health and safety).
Play with amended rules for safety, honour league standings as normal at end of it.
Decide league table based on predicted results formula. Honour standings.
Decide table on PPG, Honour standings.
Abandon season, Honour existing standings.
Play rest of season with relegation removed.
Abandon season, Honour standings but no relegation.
Abandon season, Do not honour existing standings, only game results mean anything.
Void season
Void season has the least integrity out of all options.
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Good post. Fully agree and the season should be completed IF IT'S SAFE to do so as that's a much fairer outcome. I bolded the words IF IT'S SAFE so people don't think I am being selfish.
The season doesn't have to be completed if it cannot be in a fair manner. It depends on your definition of voided, but to me abandoning the season, the reason being that outside circumstances prevented it from being completed, seems a reasonable thing to do. It's the large amount of money on the table that makes that decision hard.
I did read those and that's fair enough, but relegation from the Premier League is a different story to missing out on CL football. Fair enough if your views would be the same in 2014, but I think you'd be in the minority and those on the opposite end wouldn't necessarily be wrong.
That goes without saying, the neutral venues is probably there because that has been decided by government as a "safe" way to go. If it is deemed unsafe to play at home grounds, then that should not even be considered.
It is very likely the EPL has been in talks for weeks about how to resume, this would not have gone public or be proposed to the clubs if the EPL was told its not safe to do this.
But obviously if the government was to come out now saying the proposal is unsafe, then that's that, it should not happen.
If the government said that, then I would be absolutely fine with it. In that instance the league should be cancelled. That's my feelings in a nutshell
Didnt the same government tells you all to work from home, stay home safe lives and all that?
No way they can fairly finish the premier League with neutral grounds. Some teams will have already played hardest away games and some not. Would be a total farce.
Should void the league and do a seeded round Robin or similar Knockout tournament using 10 grounds they've got available to decide European places. Put that on TV in place of normal premier League games.
Should void the league and do a seeded round Robin or similar Knockout tournament using 10 grounds they've got available to decide European places. Put that on TV in place of normal premier League games.
How does the first 3/4 of the season mean nothing in this scenario? It literally decides who finishes where.
So liverpool Champions and bottom 3 relegated?
yeah the clubs (businesses) want to play.
But do the players? Outside of what they are saying publicly I'd be betting they want clarity of health and safety protocols
No league positions if voided, for the reasons in the post. Totally unfair if using different grounds for last games without fans. Some teams will have played much harder away games than others so far. Fixture list in the league isn't mirrored, would be a total farce.
Just do a separate one off tournament, with round robin and then knockouts to sort out who qualifies for Europe, prize money and to full-fill the TV contracts. Have 10 neutral grounds to use, how hard can it be to organise a tournament? TV companies should be happy, this season had been dreadful anyway, tournament will be much more exciting and fair way to finish it.
......and join those who were going to be furloghed by Liverpool ?
One more problem, if true, accures if they go with playing football in June. From BBC
Teams that play in Europe would be needed to stay at home for 14 days in quarantine. Let take us as example.
9 games left in Premier League
5 games left if we go all the way to final in Europa League
3 games left if we go all the way to final in the FA cup
If we go through in EL that would mean 28 days (2 away games) for quarantine. Almost a month. Say that EL final if before TheFA cup final we would need another 14 days in quarantine. 42 days! Let say that you need every 3 games between the rest. Suddenly we are looking at more than 3 months in total. If you start playing mid-June you can't even start new season before October.
Teams that play in Europe would be needed to stay at home for 14 days in quarantine. Let take us as example.
9 games left in Premier League
5 games left if we go all the way to final in Europa League
3 games left if we go all the way to final in the FA cup
If we go through in EL that would mean 28 days (2 away games) for quarantine. Almost a month. Say that EL final if before TheFA cup final we would need another 14 days in quarantine. 42 days! Let say that you need every 3 games between the rest. Suddenly we are looking at more than 3 months in total. If you start playing mid-June you can't even start new season before October.
Why would you have to quarantine 14days ? They will be checked On a continuous basis
If you read the article they are talking about quarantine for people coming to UK, expect Ireland. If players go abroad to play away games than the rules must be for them to. Or?
Slim chance of EL been finished if that is passed.
Which amended rules?
Brace yourself for a discussion on semantics.
They didn’t.
Only 3 minutes laterLigue 1 cancelled too, they weren't able to even play at neutral grounds, like the premier League is. So just fixed the table as is.
EPL can play football just can't finish the part completed league, not allowed to use own stadiums. Would be totally unfair on some teams.
Only sensible option is a seperate tournament to sort finishing positions out and no relegation this season.
This after abandoning this season and all the financial impact that will have had? Don't get me wrong I get it, but I can't see how clubs are expected to be so passive as to just say lets abandon this season as cannot 100 % guarantee that everything will be safe, and then if the inevitable second wave comes at any point next season then just abandon it all over again, because it's the right thing to do, etc.
If the sponsors, and TV broadcasters are going to guarantee them the money they are expecting, or if not people are going to be ok with the government stepping in to pay their bills, then fair enough, but they won't.
You can call it what you want but they cancelled the league with no champion being declared
And the shock horror that it's a dipper fan at it .
The cafe should have put all Liverpool supporters on furlough from this forum until the pandemic is over .
Why until the pandemic is over? Just make it permanent
I agree. It’s full of scousers in here. Mind boggling
I think they’d change their minds when they realised that Furlough is limited to £2,500 a monthYou think it's just them two that don't want to play?
Honestly I wonder if its much down to money. These players have risks they won't take for any amount anyway, some might have underlying asthma or high risk relatives (this is the case with 2 villa players for example).
Players make a boat load of money from sponsorships and branding these days anyway, gone are the times where they were massively reliant purely on club wages.
They won't void it until the last moment, because there is no guarantee that next winter we won't be seeing another wave of the virus. To not be able to finish one season is bad, but two will be a disaster.
According to this article there are more than a few players not willing to return. https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...h-doubt-50-players-snub-restart-a4436041.html
Same with CL. With Chelsea and ManCity. And UEFA will never allow leagues to go before. That is why they are pressing clubs.
Players will be alright. They have tons of money.
One thing is for certain, if they abandon this season and award the league to Liverpool then we have to make sure we start next season, whenever that may be, perfectly and make sure we're on top throughout in case it gets abandoned again.
They always want more though.
Regardless of whether or not this season is able to be completed it doesn't change the fact that next season whenever that eventually starts and whatever format it is in. It is highly likely to be disrupted by a second wave, so there are going to have to be discussions and agreements made before the season starts about what happens if the season has to be suspended again or even abandoned. To not have those discussions would be naively optimistic or irresponsible.
Like clockwork.