Omicron hasn't been around in mainland Europe as much as in the UK I think.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Omicron hasn't been around in mainland Europe as much as in the UK I think.
This appears to be a highly infectious variant, but not as dangerous to most people. All you can hope is if it morphs into another variant it gets weaker and weaker.
RIP my flights for the Brighton game.
feck covid.
feck covid.
if you let it rip through society then it’s going to cripple the NHS, even if it is ‘less severe’
It’s all a numbers game at this stage. I’ll be amazed if the league isn’t officially suspended by the end of the weekend.
Are the players being less cautious than they were last year?
It seems a lot more are contracting it this time around. The united squad seems to have been decimated by it.
It seems a lot more are contracting it this time around. The united squad seems to have been decimated by it.
Would you take Ole as an interim if Ragnick is off sick at any point?
Yep, 2 doses of the vaccine are still meant to protect against severe illness. The issue is that it's so contagious all the people who might still end up in hospital (even vaccinated) will all end up in hospital at the same time. I imagine the Winter periods even pre-COVID were terrible for this occurrence from the flu.
Good question. I'd be inclined to say yes based on how everyone is being less cautious compared to this time last year.
Plus also the factor of Omicron being more contagious generally.
I’m just glad they told us today and not tomorrow night.
Football will no doubt have a big firebreak going forward.
Football will no doubt have a big firebreak going forward.
They will have been, but society has become that way all round. I was just speaking to someone she and her husband went to Aintree races a couple of weeks back, they went in one of the bars, they left because it was rammed and not a mask in sight. I know someone who is a season ticket holder at OT and was horrified that nobody in the crowd was wearing a mask and felt really uncomfortable.
I'd rather postpone the PL until 8th Jan than it getting anymore worse and Government enforcing something like behind close doors.
The only problem with postponing it for 3/4 weeks is when do we catch up the games, the players barely get a rest between the end of this season and the beginning of the next because of the WC.
The only problem with postponing it for 3/4 weeks is when do we catch up the games, the players barely get a rest between the end of this season and the beginning of the next because of the WC.
We're getting that stage but i think we've got one more big wave before then. With the way Omicron spreads it'll be a short and fast wave too
Problem is that the way it's going we could be in lockdown by then.
Exactly. It’s not as if we are going back into a better situation, it’ll just be like now but worse since Christmas is in the middle. Instead of calling games off in December it will be January. Pausing the league isn’t any good to anybody
The WC is in November isn't it, but as I said earlier I am sure they are having the Nations League again this summer. There are too many people involved in PL,UEFA, FIFA and media who are thinking about themselves and not looking at the big picture.
Yep it feels that way. Still seeing full crowds at games is a bit surprising to be honest. I know they've already cut crowds in other countries - surely that won't be continuing here again?
I think over the next month things will get worse than better.
The old excuse of football is outside does not wash. The fans are milling around on the concourse, in pubs before games, in hospitality. Did nobody think this might cause a problem.
Cases, cases, cases. Who gives a flying shit?
Yep, definitely. Across all clubs.
Just at ours, Rashford and Lingard were at the Dior Fashion Show in London last Thursday.
James Maddison was also there, as well as multiple Chelsea players - so people are conspiracy theorying it as a super-spreader event....United, Leicester and Chelsea all having had big outbreaks since.
I mean, aside from people potentially dying and just looking at football, you wouldn't care if it meant United went 3 or 4 games without winning because they didn't have the best players available due to cases?
Well for one it will allow the new more stringent rules to be enforced. If we want football during the worst months of a peak then we're going to need footballers to take a lot more caution.
Also the presumption that there will be no lasting effects on some players.
Right now the test and isolate policy is very conservative but there's no way around that when you're caught in the thick of it.
The evidence isn't firm enough to say this disease is mild enough to completely abandon the core emergency measures, we're in that in-between period, and there's important public health messaging going on that would be really firmly undermined by a bunch of strangers getting together every few days, at this point very possibly spreading the infection in the stadium itself, just to play a game of footy shown to millions. The timing and perception just matter a bit more to wider public health than the personal risk of these players.
If Omicron does prove to be as mild as expected, I'd be really surprised if they didn't change the test and isolate policy dramatically.
I reckon they'll cancel the league cup.
What stringent rules? We have players not even taking the vaccine so I’m struggling to think of anything they can implement.
Nobody is going to agree to not seeing their family for 9 months of the year, the clubs aren’t miracle workers.
We just have to accept the situation imo. Everything else is just pie in the sky
Morons need to stop postponing games left right and centre and just do a shutdown.
Anyone think we are getting close to the stage of the PL telling unvaccinated players they can't play...?
Premier League need to stop thinking about money and just shut down the premier league for at least 2 to 3 weeks
It's hard to get a Visa these days for Europe
Hopefully postponing the games will prevent more spread and not inch us further towards the dreaded lockdown.
Yeah I meant that if we postpone the PL for 3 weeks, then add it onto the end of the season, the season will end in June and the new season begins earlier than usual, so players won't get much rest and I cant see them being happy with that.
They need to do something, it's a professional sport ffs.
Yeah I meant that if we postpone the PL for 3 weeks, then add it onto the end of the season, the season will end in June and the new season begins earlier than usual, so players won't get much rest and I cant see them being happy with that.
The PL have introduced new rules. Doesn't need to be 9 months and certainly not stopping players from seeing families but as above did Lingard and Rashford really need to go to a fashion show? Common sense stuff.
The issue is people socialise according to their vaccination status reducing their own health risk, yet that doesn't stop isolation so obviously we're seeing more games off. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
This should have already happened... FFS
Not sure the players will get much sympathy as people will look for someone to blame and they are an easy target.
They haven't done it because it would be seen as naming and shaming. It is their choice to not have it, even if most of us disagree with their choice. The fact that someone who has been fully vaccinated can spread it won't come into some folks head. A lot of cases will just be unlucky to be in the right place but with the wrong person.
Unfortunately I agree with you, not because you're wrong but because it'll be the players getting the brunt of it, which is morally wrong.
Is it not on the clubs too? Unvaccinated players would still be mixing with the playing squad I'd imagine.