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FINAL: Which team would win on a slow dustbowl minefield?

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Match 4: Harshad vs Himannv
Please vote for one of the teams that you believe would win on a slow dustbowl minefield.

Discussions encouraged. Write ups to follow.

Team @harshad
H. Mohammad
B. Ponsord
R. Richardson
P. May
E. Hendren
G. Sobers (c)
K. Miller
I. Healy (wk)
H. Trumble
D. Steyn
S. Barnes

Team @Himannv
Arthur Morris
Len Hutton
David Gower
Dudley Nourse
Ted Dexter
Douglas Jardine (c)
Matt Prior (wk)
Richard Hadlee
Curtly Ambrose
Bill O'Reilly
Fazal Mahmood
 
Team @harshad

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Why I will win :
- Great Openers who compliment the playing style of each other.
- Solid middle order batsmen and batting depth with Sir Garry and Keith Miller coming in at no. 6 and 7, who can consolidate and build in case of a top order collapse or build on the foundation laid by the top order.
- A goat bowler leading the attack with Miller and Barnes. Steyn has excellent record on all surfaces throughout his career and Barnes in particular will be quite handy on this surface.
- An excellent spinner in Trumble, who would be quite handy on this wicket plus Sir Garry to bowl wrist spin.


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Team @Himannv

Lineup:

01. Arthur Morris
02. Len Hutton**
03. David Gower
04. Dudley Nourse
05. Ted Dexter
06. Douglas Jardine*
07. Matt Prior+
08. Richard Hadlee
09. Curtly Ambrose
10. Bill O'Reilly
11. Fazal Mahmood

12th man: Seymour Nurse

Batting:
- Solid batting way down till no. 8.
- Excellent opening pair in Morris and Hutton.
- Solid middle order with great records
- Prior coming in at 7 with Hadlee at 8 offers good depth in the order.

Bowling:
- Hadlee takes the new ball. He's consistent, accurate, and an excellent at moving the ball as well.
- Ambrose shares the new ball. He gets awkward bounce and can move the ball away from the batsmen. Also he brings some aggression into my attack.
- Fazal is my third seamer. He could cut and seam the ball at very good pace and is the first great Pakistani fast bowler.
- O'Reilly is my spinner and is obviously one of the best spinners of all time. He could bowl pretty much anything and was impossible to face at times.
 
Both teams have better bowling attacks than batting. Right now inclined to go with @harshad due to Sobers but can change my mind as per arguments.
 
@Damien is there a page break feature in Xenforo? It would be useful, to have each match as the first post on the respective page
 
I'm a Steyn Stan and Harshad has assembled a stupidly good bowling attack. Himannv is also excellent with Hadlee and Ambrose. Tough one
 
Probably the closest game so far, my vote will most likely depend on the manager who makes the best argument.
 
Always feel Sobers should bat no lower than no. 5 especially in ATG match ups. Even that is a bit low for him but at no. 6 it's almost wasting him who for me has the best claim to being the greatest batsman of all time - even ahead of Bradman. He was a pretty good bowler and it's understandable that you'd want him a bit lower in the batting order due to that, but 4/5 should be his position, 5 also in case you have an incredible top 4. In harshad's team he should be coming in at 4, for sure ahead of Peter May and Hendren.
 
Moby said:
Always feel Sobers should bat no lower than no. 5 especially in ATG match ups. Even that is a bit low for him but at no. 6 it's almost wasting him who for me has the best claim to being the greatest batsman of all time - even ahead of Bradman. He was a pretty good bowler and it's understandable that you'd want him a bit lower in the batting order due to that, but 4/5 should be his position, 5 also in case you have an incredible top 4. In harshad's team he should be coming in at 4, for sure ahead of Peter May and Hendren.
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I felt the same about Stokes in yesterday's game.
 
I've picked Hugh Trumble in drafts before, but always with some level of reluctance. His best performances always came on wet wickets and conditions he wouldn't be seeing here. Not saying he was a bad bowler, he picked up loads of wickets and has an average of 21, which is just about par for the course when the best batsmen of his era averaged around 35 and some bowlers had averages under 20.
 
Himannv said:
I've picked Hugh Trumble in drafts before, but always with some level of reluctance. His best performances always came on wet wickets and conditions he wouldn't be seeing here. Not saying he was a bad bowler, he picked up loads of wickets and has an average of 21, which is just about par for the course when the best batsmen of his era averaged around 35 and some bowlers had averages under 20.
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When you consider the above, you'd have to appreciate the performances of O'Reilly. During his era, pretty much every batsman averaged 40+ due to the somewhat easier to bat conditions. He could do it all really and was considered the best of all time by everyone of that time.

Despite hating him, even Bradman said O'Reilly was the best bowler he had ever seen.
 
Moby said:
Always feel Sobers should bat no lower than no. 5 especially in ATG match ups. Even that is a bit low for him but at no. 6 it's almost wasting him who for me has the best claim to being the greatest batsman of all time - even ahead of Bradman. He was a pretty good bowler and it's understandable that you'd want him a bit lower in the batting order due to that, but 4/5 should be his position, 5 also in case you have an incredible top 4. In harshad's team he should be coming in at 4, for sure ahead of Peter May and Hendren.
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Even at 6, where he has played the most of his innings, he still has Miller coming in after him with Healy to follow. He won't be lacking support.

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Didn't he play a big chunk of his career at 6?
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More than at any other position. In fact, almost a third of his innings have come while playing at 6.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Didn't he play a big chunk of his career at 6?
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Yeah that's true and like I mentioned earlier it was to manage his bowling load, quite similar to Gilchrist coming in at 7 as he was keeping for ages when the team was fielding. But in matches like these if you can take the bowling load off him unless you have some insane top order he should be sent a bit earlier. Especially in this case as Harshad's top order is not the greatest. He is going to bat at 6 after a couple of guys who average 10+ runs lesser than him, and especially when you are going to be facing super quality bowling attacks, you need your best players to be there to stop them from running down through that top order. That 60s WI team wasn't the most stable or balanced ones out there, if Sobers had been born 10-15 years later and played in that 70s-80s WI team you'd have had him and Viv going in at 3 and 4. He held numerous batting records when he retired, and he is a batting all rounder, and like I said he is easily among the top-5 batsmen of all time at the very least.
 
Samid said:
Leaning towards harshad atm although no real fan of that top order.
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If I may say so, mine is actually excellent in comparison especially due to Hutton, who is at worst the third best opener of all time (in my personal opinion he's the best and is ahead of Hobbs, Gavaskar, and Richards).
 
Match 5: EAP/TMH vs Indnyc
Please vote for one of the teams that you believe would win on a slow dustbowl minefield.

Discussions encouraged. Write ups to follow.

Team @Edgar Allan Pillow @The Man Himself
  1. Matthew Hayden
  2. Geoffrey Boycott
  3. Rahul Dravid
  4. Hashim Amla
  5. Joe Root
  6. Farokh Engineer (wk)
  7. Kapil Dev (c)
  8. Malcolm Marshall
  9. Johnny Wardle
  10. Morne Morkel
  11. Lance Gibbs

Team @Indnyc
  1. Saeed Anwar
  2. Michael Atherton
  3. Cheteshwar Pujara
  4. Mahela Jayawardene
  5. Allan Border (c)
  6. Michael Clarke
  7. AB de Villiers (wk)
  8. Daniel Vettori
  9. Stuart Broad
  10. Michael Holding
  11. Graham McKenzie
 
Team @edgar allan @The Man Himself

OP - Matthew Hayden
OP - Geoffrey Boycott
03- Rahul Dravid
04 - Hashim Amla
05 - Joe Root
06 -Farokh Engineer (WK)
07- Kapil Dev (C)
08 - Malcolm Marshall
09 - Johnny Wardle
10 - Morne Morkel
11 - Lance Gibbs

Batting:

Matthew Hayden - Career Batting Average: 50.74.
Geoffrey Boycott - Career Batting Average: 48.16
Rahul Dravid - Home suitability for this type of wicket. Career Batting Average: 52.88
Hashim Amla - Career Batting Average: 49.96
Joe Root - Career Batting Average: 48.40
Farokh Engineer (WK) - Career Batting Average: 31.08
Kapil Dev - Home suitability for this type of wicket. Career Batting Average: 31.10
Malcolm Marshall (WK) - Career Batting Average: 21.00

Bowling:

Malcolm Marshall - Right Hand Fast. Average: 20.95
Kapil Dev - Right Hand Fast. Average: 29.65
Morne Morkel - Right Hand Fast. Average: 27.67
Jonny Wardle - Left Arm Orthodox/Left Arm Wrist Spin. Average: 20.39
Lance Gibbs - Right Arm Off Break. Average: 29.09

Why we'll win:

+ Solid and dependable batting line up all the way to Kapil.
+ Top notch pace partnership in Marshall and Kapil with good support from Morkel.
+ Genuine GOAT spin partnership in Gibbs and Wardle. Check the wiki snips below to see why they'll have a field outing in the spin friendly pitch this match is being played!

** Wiki Snips:

+ Wardle's bowling average of 20.39 is the lowest in Test cricket by any recognised spin bowler since the First World War!
+ Lance Gibbs is the only bowler to pass 300 wickets with exceptional economy rate of under 2 (1.99)!

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Team @Indnyc

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Captain - Allan Border
Wicket Keeper - AB De Villiers

Most of my team is well known. Graham McKenzie was the Wisden cricketer of the year in 1965. He was known for taking wickets on good batting tracks. Also has the most dismissals in test cricket for hit wickets :)

On slow dustbowl minefields with uneven bounce, my pace attack with Vettori in support should be able to take 20 wickets. Also a batting order which goes really deep will help in scoring runs
 
Samid said:
Team @edgar allan @The Man Himself

OP - Matthew Hayden
OP - Geoffrey Boycott
03- Rahul Dravid
04 - Hashim Amla
05 - Joe Root
06 -Farokh Engineer (WK)
07- Kapil Dev (C)
08 - Malcolm Marshall
09 - Johnny Wardle
10 - Morne Morkel
11 - Lance Gibbs

Batting:

Matthew Hayden - Career Batting Average: 50.74.
Geoffrey Boycott - Career Batting Average: 48.16
Rahul Dravid - Home suitability for this type of wicket. Career Batting Average: 52.88
Hashim Amla - Career Batting Average: 49.96
Joe Root - Career Batting Average: 48.40
Farokh Engineer (WK) - Career Batting Average: 31.08
Kapil Dev - Home suitability for this type of wicket. Career Batting Average: 31.10
Malcolm Marshall (WK) - Career Batting Average: 21.00

Bowling:

Malcolm Marshall - Right Hand Fast. Average: 20.95
Kapil Dev - Right Hand Fast. Average: 29.65
Morne Morkel - Right Hand Fast. Average: 27.67
Jonny Wardle - Left Arm Orthodox/Left Arm Wrist Spin. Average: 20.39
Lance Gibbs - Right Arm Off Break. Average: 29.09

Why we'll win:

+ Solid and dependable batting line up all the way to Kapil.
+ Top notch pace partnership in Marshall and Kapil with good support from Morkel.
+ Genuine GOAT spin partnership in Gibbs and Wardle. Check the wiki snips below to see why they'll have a field outing in the spin friendly pitch this match is being played!

** Wiki Snips:

+ Wardle's bowling average of 20.39 is the lowest in Test cricket by any recognised spin bowler since the First World War!
+ Lance Gibbs is the only bowler to pass 300 wickets with exceptional economy rate of under 2 (1.99)!

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Team @Indnyc

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Captain - Allan Border
Wicket Keeper - AB De Villiers

Most of my team is well known. Graham McKenzie was the Wisden cricketer of the year in 1965. He was known for taking wickets on good batting tracks. Also has the most dismissals in test cricket for hit wickets :)

On slow dustbowl minefields with uneven bounce, my pace attack with Vettori in support should be able to take 20 wickets. Also a batting order which goes really deep will help in scoring runs
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It's a tough one but I'm leaning towards Indy at the moment. Pujara, Jayawardena, Clarke and De Villiers are some of the best players of spin I've ever seen. I remember Clarke's test debut in India, he had such quick feet and played so confidently.
 
Fiskey said:
It's a tough one but I'm leaning towards Indy at the moment. Pujara, Jayawardena, Clarke and De Villiers are some of the best players of spin I've ever seen. I remember Clarke's test debut in India, he had such quick feet and played so confidently.
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Hayden, Boycott, Amla, Root all have higher (than career) batting averages in India (similar pitches). Plus it helps us that Vettori is the sole spinner in opposition.

Overall, we have equal players comfortable playing spin..with added advantage of sporting an extra spinner too.
 
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