Cop in America doing a bad job, again

vi1lain said:
Erica Garner, daughter of Eric “I can’t breathe” Garner, who was choked on the sidewalk passed away today.
She had a heart attack, at the age of 27 and was considered brain dead before her body gave up.
Stress on her heart relating to he trauma she and her family have had to endure, while fighting for justice.

The guy who killed her father is still employed, the NYPD are still refusing to release their police records on him, and are still fighting the family in court.

When we talk of broken communication between the police and the community they are employed to serve, these are the implications.
Statistics don’t tell the whole story, and those who are killed at the hands of the police aren’t the only victims.

The whole system is broken, from the top down.
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Sad and proper fecked up. Deflection, excuses, and more feckery.... There seems to be no real impetus to do anything about it... Not on any large scale.
 
vi1lain said:
Erica Garner, daughter of Eric “I can’t breathe” Garner, who was choked on the sidewalk passed away today.
She had a heart attack, at the age of 27 and was considered brain dead before her body gave up.
Stress on her heart relating to he trauma she and her family have had to endure, while fighting for justice.

The guy who killed her father is still employed, the NYPD are still refusing to release their police records on him, and are still fighting the family in court.

When we talk of broken communication between the police and the community they are employed to serve, these are the implications.
Statistics don’t tell the whole story, and those who are killed at the hands of the police aren’t the only victims.

The whole system is broken, from the top down.
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I've seen this thrown about a lot. That she died of a "broken heart". Haven't seen anyone mention her weight or lifestyle. Did she smoke? drink? etc.
 
Desert Eagle said:
I've seen this thrown about a lot. That she died of a "broken heart". Haven't seen anyone mention her weight or lifestyle. Did she smoke? drink? etc.
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She wasn’t skinny, but she wasnt breaking the scales either she looked around 200lbs I’d imagine that’s slightly higher than average in America.
No mention of smoking, but even then she was 27 and just gave birth a few months prior, therefore most likely breastfeeding, which you’d imagine that means she wouldn’t be smoking.
But that’s a lot of hypotheticals, lots of people are able to operate normal, active lives even when they’re heavier than the average person.

Also, the “broken heart” is a very real condition, it’s called cardiomyopathy and is common in response to incidents which cause severe stress such as grief and stress.
 
vi1lain said:
She wasn’t skinny, but she wasnt breaking the scales either she looked around 200lbs I’d imagine that’s slightly higher than average in America.
No mention of smoking, but even then she was 27 and just gave birth a few months prior, therefore most likely breastfeeding, which you’d imagine that means she wouldn’t be smoking.
But that’s a lot of hypotheticals, lots of people are able to operate normal, active lives even when they’re heavier than the average person.

Also, the “broken heart” is a very real condition, it’s called cardiomyopathy and is common in response to incidents which cause severe stress such as grief and stress.
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200 pounds and how tall was she? Seems like she was obese is my point which is a higher risk factor for cardiac arrest than loss of a parent. I know what cardiomyopathy is and stress cardiomyopathy ( I'm a medical doctor). I don't wanna come across as shitting on the dead but personally I don't like the seemingly direct link people are making between what happened to her dad and what happened to her.
 
Desert Eagle said:
200 pounds and how tall was she? Seems like she was obese is my point which is a higher risk factor for cardiac arrest than loss of a parent. I know what cardiomyopathy is and stress cardiomyopathy ( I'm a medical doctor). I don't wanna come across as shitting on the dead but personally I don't like the seemingly direct link people are making between what happened to her dad and what happened to her.
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Seriously? When you lose some one that close the aftermath and the long term aren't a walk in the park regardless of your general health, BMI, blood pressure and whatever else you want to look at.

I've seen people's health turn to shit after losing a loved one.
 
afrocentricity said:
Seriously? When you lose some one that close the aftermath and the long term aren't a walk in the park regardless of your general health, BMI, blood pressure and whatever else you want to look at.

I've seen people's health turn to shit after losing a loved one.
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Did i say it was a walk in the park?

Yeah I've seen it too and I've also seen plenty of people where their health hasn't turned to shit. Any reason you seem so keen to dismiss any other risk factor or behavior that may have led to her death?
 
Desert Eagle said:
Did i say it was a walk in the park?

Yeah I've seen it too and I've also seen plenty of people where their health hasn't turned to shit. Any reason you seem so keen to dismiss any other risk factor or behavior that may have led to her death?
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Keen to dismiss? No mate, I just took the news as is... Didn't feel the need to discount what they said and work out an alternative.
 
Desert Eagle said:
200 pounds and how tall was she? Seems like she was obese is my point which is a higher risk factor for cardiac arrest than loss of a parent. I know what cardiomyopathy is and stress cardiomyopathy ( I'm a medical doctor). I don't wanna come across as shitting on the dead but personally I don't like the seemingly direct link people are making between what happened to her dad and what happened to her.
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Just because she was obese doesn't mean it was the reason for her heart attack.
My mother is comfortably 300lbs of mostly fat, and equally comfortably fitter than the average person, and doesn't have any health risks at all - and she's married to a doctor who weighs less than she does but has had more health problems than she has.

You are coming across as shitting on the dead quite frankly, especially since you seem so intent on dismissing what happened to her father being linked to this.
 
I actually hadn't read a report on her death at all just saw a lot of posts on social media and the post by villian where people made the direct link between her dad dying and this. In reading the guardian article on it i came across this

"Her mother, Esaw Snipes, told the New York Times earlier this week her daughter learned during her recent pregnancy that she had heart problems. Snipes said Garner had a heart attack after an asthma episode and was placed in a medically induced coma."

So it seems she did have other health issues.
Anyways 27 is way too young for anyone to pass away I'm sure we can agree on that.

This line from the guardian article struck me as odd though

"Other Twitter messages from Garner’s account said “out of respect to Erica please do not request comment if the journalist is not Black”
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...came-an-activist-after-her-fathers-death-dies


According to this report she already had an enlarged heart and it seems had one earlier heart attack after giving birth. The pregnancy supposedly adding strain to her condition.

It's not far fetched at all to think that the stress of her fathers murder affected her health also.

Reality is that we have no way of knowing for sure if she'd be alive today if her father was not murdered.

But at the end of the day her family has suffered another tragedy and her son will never know his mother or the grandfather he was named after.
 
I'm involved in the Call of Duty community and that swatting in Kansas was really terrible.

The Mum of the victim says he wasn't given a warning they just shot him. There are live stream rips on YouTube of police bursting in to bedrooms in real time responding to claims of murders and hostages etc.

Apparently the kid rung from a different state but didn't actually ring the police directly (911) and was passed about a bit so nobody thought to quiz the dialling code.
 
Javi said:
Excuse my curiosity but what's the link between CoD and that shooting?
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2 Teams of 'kids' play COD for money, small wagers via the website UMG that logs their records, facilitates money transfers etc

One of the teams lost. Apparently, it was an in-fight between the losing team as they didn't know each other (as can happen in these games) and one of them threatened to 'SWAT' the other. The other kid dared him to do it so he went and called on SWAuTistic, a known swatter who also had the COD event at Dallas evacuated a few weeks ago for calling in bomb threats. The kid that dared the other two swat him gave a fake address which then other kid then gave thw swatter. That's the jist of it.
 
Eboue said:
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So when did he take this picture of this officer? His story starts out saying the first time he saw the officer he already had his gun drawn. So after the whole scene calms down and he's been placed in handcuffs, and most likely removed from the store, they go back in and talk about conditioner and he snaps a quick picture while he's hanging out? Makes sense.
 
Skizzo said:
So when did he take this picture of this officer? His story starts out saying the first time he saw the officer he already had his gun drawn. So after the whole scene calms down and he's been placed in handcuffs, and most likely removed from the store, they go back in and talk about conditioner and he snaps a quick picture while he's hanging out? Makes sense.
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:rolleyes:
 
Skizzo said:
So when did he take this picture of this officer? His story starts out saying the first time he saw the officer he already had his gun drawn. So after the whole scene calms down and he's been placed in handcuffs, and most likely removed from the store, they go back in and talk about conditioner and he snaps a quick picture while he's hanging out? Makes sense.
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Eboue said:
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Not surprised. It seems to me the police culture of NYPD is very much stuck in the 70-80s. We had 1 or 2 former nypd at our dept. They were very "old school" to put it simply. Or maybe new yorkers are just impatient, angry assholes in general compared to us nice, laid-back, sunshine loving Californians. :cool:
 
choiboyx012 said:
Not surprised. It seems to me the police culture of NYPD is very much stuck in the 70-80s. We had 1 or 2 former nypd at our dept. They were very "old school" to put it simply. Or maybe new yorkers are just impatient, angry assholes in general compared to us nice, laid-back, sunshine loving Californians. :cool:
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I've been arrested once, in Queens. The NYPD officers were nice and cordial, cracking jokes and all. Irish and Italian, so that classic cop demeanor stood out. Wish they didn't lie about the amount of time I would spend in Central Booking (the entire weekend as opposed to 20 mins :mad:).
 
adexkola said:
I've been arrested once, in Queens. The NYPD officers were nice and cordial, cracking jokes and all. Irish and Italian, so that classic cop demeanor stood out. Wish they didn't lie about the amount of time I would spend in Central Booking (the entire weekend as opposed to 20 mins :mad:).
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What were you arrested for?
 
Ady87 said:
2 Teams of 'kids' play COD for money, small wagers via the website UMG that logs their records, facilitates money transfers etc

One of the teams lost. Apparently, it was an in-fight between the losing team as they didn't know each other (as can happen in these games) and one of them threatened to 'SWAT' the other. The other kid dared him to do it so he went and called on SWAuTistic, a known swatter who also had the COD event at Dallas evacuated a few weeks ago for calling in bomb threats. The kid that dared the other two swat him gave a fake address which then other kid then gave thw swatter. That's the jist of it.
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Sounds illegal as feck! Regardless of the dollar amount it's gambling across state lines, probably internationally as well.

Is this swatting the kind of thing that might blow open the other stuff going on in this gamer world?
 
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