Clearly this went too far but if you are a cop and try to make a valid traffic stop and the guy drives off and runs into his house and doesn't answer, I assume you are allowed to go in and get him. It WAS a simple traffic stop but the driver turned it into much more. Hopefully they had bodycams to see if the force was justified or not.
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Clearly this went too far but if you are a cop and try to make a valid traffic stop and the guy drives off and runs into his house and doesn't answer, I assume you are allowed to go in and get him. It WAS a simple traffic stop but the driver turned it into much more. Hopefully they had bodycams to see if the force was justified or not.
Well, yes and no. There’s exceptions under “hot pursuit” which would allow warrantless entry under certain exigent circumstances. Now, that being said, in a situation where someone ran a stop sign and didn’t stop when police tried to make a traffic stop would depend on a lot of circumstances. There’s different levels of someone fleeing. In California there’s 2800.1 or 2800.2 depending on if it falls under felony evading or misdemeanor evading. If someone ran a stop sign and then led police on a dangerous chase where he ran more stop signs or red lights, drove wrong way, sped way over the speed limit in neighborhoods etc, then the police could justify warrantless entry under felony evading and being in hot pursuit. On the flip side, you’d have to ask why if someone was driving that dangerously, the police would continue and not cancel the pursuit when all you have is a traffic infraction as the reason for the original stop.
If it only fell under a misdemeanor evading charge, you’d be hard pressed to justify making a forceful entry and not just setting a perimeter and contacting a judge for a warrant. It would take longer, but you’d be covered for forcing your way in. Chances are during the way he may come to his senses anyway and come outside, either by his own choice or his family talking sense into him. Either way, they’d be fine to go in at that point.
As for the beating, you’d be hard pressed to find something to justify that level of beating. If someone is fighting that hard that they needed to be beaten that badly, then you’d be able to transition to other force options that would probably allow some level of compliance to be able to get him into handcuffs. You don’t continue to fight and beat someone just because you can. At some point people have a natural instinct to cross from just resisting arrest by not giving you their hands, to fighting back and defending themselves if they’re being punched in the face and beaten. Unfortunately if that happens, it just leads to more of the same.
I think you forgot to factor in that cops produce adrenaline.
Thank you for this explanation!
That helps, thank you for that reply. The "beating" part is why I hope their is camera. The end result looks horrible but what if the guy resisted arrest and during the takedown, he cut his head? I would not call that a beating. On the flip side, if the footage shows them doing something other than taking him down (striking him in the head for instance), the Cops need to go to jail.
That's a lot of hypothetical cuts, and on opposite sides of his head. Would be quite a coincidence.
I agree, there could be alternate explanations, and maybe force could have been justified. The clip I saw though (and it was just a clip) showed an officer chasing him behind a couch while he had his baton drawn and swinging it. It didn’t seem there was much justification at that point.
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I am reminded of how the Alabama State Patrol dealt with something similar. I was headed to Mobile down 65 (and anyone who has driven this route knows there can be 15 miles between exits) when suddenly traffic stopped. We sat there for an hour and, being the south, people got out and started chatting. All of a sudden we see 4-5 cows running up the divider being chased by guys on horses with, I kid you not, lassos twirling above their heads. Turns out a cattle transporter broke down on a bridge and when attempting to hook up a tow truck the cows got out. The State Patrol called in help from local cattle farmers who sent out some of their guys to round them all up. Totally surreal experience.
Not for the squeamish…
Repugnant enough to post twice…
Spoiler - dog’s totally fine…
Came to post this. Mental
Woman having a mental breakdown placed into a cop car & somehow jumping out the back of it. She later died from head injuries…
Christ…
The ineptitude of these Kevin's is astounding. I swear the training for a cop must be seven days then they're let loose onto society
Responding to the call by yourself when you know the suicidal subject has a weapon. Not drawing out and pointing your gun at the subject when you see her gun. Instead, attempting to de-escalate by walking towards her to grab her gun.
This is a bad job. Her incompetence allowed the subject to flee and ultimately get into a shootout with Atlanta PD. Hopefully she pulls through.
About time.
These past few weeks suggest that the DOJ's priority these first 2 years was finding Garland's testicles and returning them.
Civil rights offenses, unlawful conspiracy, unconstitutional use of force and obstruction. Three of them charged with falsification of a search warrant. No murder charge, as far as I know federal can't do that, and the state, well, it's Kentucky.
More than 2 years after the event. This is a good sign, and maybe only a small one though, that perhaps cops are not above the law. One can hope that this leads to more accountability for “the few bad apples”.
Albert Woodfox, Black Panther member and part of the Angola Three, has died of Covid at the age of 75.
43 years in solitary confinement is a national record, and their story is endless political prosecution and sham trials.
Not a perfect fit for this thread, but it involves both the justice system, the prison system, and correction officers.
43 years in solitary confinement is a national record, and their story is endless political prosecution and sham trials.
Not a perfect fit for this thread, but it involves both the justice system, the prison system, and correction officers.
There are a few exceptions when it can be considered a federal offense and dealt with outside of state level, but none that would come into play here I don’t believe.
Fun one for once:
Another fun one.
Clowns. What a disgrace. Thin blue line my arse.
None of those involved should have jobs in law enforcement by the looks of it.
Sketchy…
Just saw that one, what the feck is wrong with those cops? The first cop goes immediately from "let me see your hands" to pulling his gun and screaming at the guy for... showing the cop his hands. Then he later says "you wouldn't show me your ID" or something, when that's basically all the other guy was trying to do. I guess he should have gone on the ground, but jesus.
Edit: Oh yeah, and then they tased him when they had him on the ground. Maybe that's why he didn't want to go on the ground.
I watched another video yesterday where the cop went from "show me your hands" to being peppered with bullets a second later. Tis the world they live in, Murica.
I guess that kind of thing really affects the psychology of cops, but statistically it's not a very dangerous profession. It's been done a few times by a few different people, but here's one from the University of Delaware showing "police officers" as the 22nd most dangerous profession. It's well below stuff like delivery drivers, farmers, garbage collectors.
Not sure if this has already been posted
I'm with Mr. Hyde. Sure he's probably no Dr. Jekyll (hehe) but it looks like he's been targeted. Without going into conspiracy negro mode, I think he's aware he doesn't have the support of the powers that be and is happy to put on a show for them. The cop who pressed him first is happy to give him all the rope he needs to hang himself and the supervisor is complicit. In what world would an officer spend that amount of time on a traffic stop and have a supervisor come out to investigate further? He knows the entire time he's being recorded, that's why he puts his camera out like that and looks at the cop as if to say "I know what you're doing, are you going to continue?"
It becomes obvious the way he admits to his speeding charge. Every man is proud of speed, can't be helped.
Whole thing is sus, credit to Hyde for going out like a badass and making sure anybody with sense can see the corruption even if it kills his career. Pour a cup of tea for that man, I'd only be happier if it happened in Boston.
Everyone in the comment section making it a gender issue, like she can't be corrupt because she's female. How do most of these school shooters get a hold of the guns they use? And someone said 'imagine how afraid his wife must be of him', she loses control every time he steps through the front door, I know I would. Legend. The last Brit since Daniel Kaluuya to conquer America.
I'm with Mr. Hyde. Sure he's probably no Dr. Jekyll (hehe) but it looks like he's been targeted. Without going into conspiracy negro mode, I think he's aware he doesn't have the support of the powers that be and is happy to put on a show for them. The cop who pressed him first is happy to give him all the rope he needs to hang himself and the supervisor is complicit. In what world would an officer spend that amount of time on a traffic stop and have a supervisor come out to investigate further? He knows the entire time he's being recorded, that's why he puts his camera out like that and looks at the cop as if to say "I know what you're doing, are you going to continue?"
It becomes obvious the way he admits to his speeding charge. Every man is proud of speed, can't be helped.
Whole thing is sus, credit to Hyde for going out like a badass and making sure anybody with sense can see the corruption even if it kills his career. Pour a cup of tea for that man, I'd only be happier if it happened in Boston.
Everyone in the comment section making it a gender issue, like she can't be corrupt because she's female. How do most of these school shooters get a hold of the guns they use? And someone said 'imagine how afraid his wife must be of him', she loses control every time he steps through the front door, I know I would. Legend. The last Brit since Daniel Kaluuya to conquer America.
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