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BigDunc9 said:
Me Against The World.

2pacs best album. Yay or Nay?
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Yay.

Struck the perfect balance between the introspective, socially conscious 2Pac of the previous 2 releases, and the hedonistic, feck the world 2 Pac of the last 2 albums.

If All Eyez on Me was whittled down to a single album then it would probably take the title. His last album is great also.
 
adexkola said:
Yay.

Struck the perfect balance between the introspective, socially conscious 2Pac of the previous 2 releases, and the hedonistic, feck the world 2 Pac of the last 2 albums.

If All Eyez on Me was whittled down to a single album then it would probably take the title. His last album is great also.
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Agreed. 20 years old this year that album aswell.

It has a calmness to it and the album flows brilliantly from one track to the next.
 
JP77 said:
Great but nothing touches All Eyez On Me for me, arguably the greatest rap album of all time IMO. Disc One is out of this world and features the best song he ever did.
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A lot of the tracks on All Eyez On Me are hit and miss for me.

Only God can judge me?
 
Brown Toothpick said:
The Documentary 2.5 (second disc) has leaked.

Edit: Shit goes hard. Better even than the first disc. That Nas song is amazing.
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Stopped listening to rap music for years because it became garbage even the better rappers like 50, Eminem, Snoop etc were putting out rubbish. Doc 2 has brought me back into it, always liked The Game/west coast rap and his new album is pretty good.
 
Roman Bellic said:
They also apparently wanted to turn up.
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Well, yes, Future was right before Kendrick. And I'm sure there are many people who listen to Future and not Kendrick.

That being said, it was a work night. Trains out the city stop running at a certain time. Most likely, some people left cause they don't care for Kendrick, and some left to catch the last train. He's sold out arenas, so this doesn't say much about his current likeability.
 
THE 20 BEST HIP-HOP PRODUCERS OF ALL TIME [LA WEEKLY]
  1. Dr. Dre – Key tracks: Eazy-E, “Boyz-n-the-Hood” (1987), N.W.A., “Straight Outta Compton” (1988), N.W.A, “feck tha Police” (1988), Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg, “Nuthin' But a ‘G’ Thang” (1992), Snoop Doggy Dogg, “Gin and Juice” (1993), 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre and Roger Troutman, “California Love” (1995), Eminem, “My Name Is” (1999), 50 Cent, “In Da Club” (2003), Dr. Dre feat. Eminem and Skylar Grey, “I Need a Doctor” (2011), Dr. Dre, “Talking to My Diary” (2015)

  2. DJ Premier – Key tracks: Gang Starr, “Words I Manifest (Remix)” (1989), Gang Starr, “Ex Girl to the Next Girl” (1992), Nas, “N.Y. State of Mind” (1994), Guru feat. Chaka Khan, “Watch What You Say” (1995), Notorious B.I.G., “Ten Crack Commandments” (1997), Mos Def, “Mathematics” (1999), PRhyme feat. Ab-Soul and Mac Miller, “*** Sound Good” (2014), Joey Bada$$, “Paper Trail$” (2015)

  3. J Dilla – Key tracks: The Pharcyde, “Drop” (1995), Slum Village, “Keep It On (This Beat)” (1997), Common, “The Light” (2000), J Dilla, “Think Twice” (2001), Busta Rhymes feat. Meka, “It Ain’t Safe No More” (2002), Q-Tip, “Move” (2008)

  4. Pete Rock – Key tracks: Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth, “They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)” (1992), Nas, “The World Is Yours” (1994), AZ feat. Nas, “Gimme Yours” (1995), Rakim, “The Saga Begins” (1997), Raekwon, “Sneakers” (1999), Pete Rock, “A Little Soul” (2001)

  5. RZA – Key tracks: Wu-Tang Clan, “Protect Ya Neck” (1992), Gravediggaz, “Diary of a Madman” (1994), GZA feat. Method Man, “Shadowboxin'” (1995), Wu-Tang Clan feat. Cappadonna, “Triumph” (1997), Wu-Tang Clan, “Uzi (Pinky Ring)” (2001), Earl Sweatshirt feat. RZA, “Molasses” (2013)

  6. Kanye West – Key tracks: Jay Z, “Izzo (H.O.V.A.)” (2001), Talib Kweli, “Get By” (2002), Kanye West, “Jesus Walks” (2004), Kanye West, “Gold Digger” (2005), Jay Z feat. Kanye West and Rihanna, “Run This Town” (2009), Kanye West feat. Pusha T, “Runaway” (2010)

  7. Q-Tip – Key tracks: A Tribe Called Quest, “Bonita Applebum” (1990), A Tribe Called Quest, “Award Tour” (1993), Nas, “One Love” (1994), Q-Tip, “Breathe and Stop” (1999), Q-Tip, “Johnny’s Dead” (2008)

  8. The Bomb Squad – Key tracks: Public Enemy, “You’re Gonna Get Yours” (1987), Public Enemy, “Fight the Power” (1989), Ice Cube, “AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted” (1990), Public Enemy, “By the Time I Get to Arizona” (1991), Eric B & Rakim, “Juice (Know the Ledge)” (1992)

  9. The Neptunes – Key tracks: Noreaga feat. Tammy Lucas, “Superthug” (1998), Mystikal, “Shake Ya Ass” (2000), Nelly, “Hot in Herre” (2002), Snoop Dogg feat. Pharrell, “Drop It Like It’s Hot” (2005), Clipse feat. Pharrell, “Mr. Me Too” (2006)

  10. Timbaland – Key tracks: Missy Elliott, “The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)” (1997), Jay Z feat. UGK, “Big Pimpin'” (1999), Missy Elliott, “Work It” (2002), Timbaland & Magoo feat. Missy Elliott, “Cop That Shit” (2003), Jay Z, “Tom Ford” (2013)

  11. Rick Rubin – Key tracks: LL Cool J, “I Can’t Live Without My Radio” (1985), Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith, “Walk This Way” (1986), Jay Z, “99 Problems” (2003), Eminem, “Berserk” (2013)

  12. No I.D. – Key tracks: Common, “I Used to Love H.E.R.” (1994), Jay Z, “All Around the World” (2002), Kanye West, “Heartless” (2008), Common feat. Vince Staples, “Kingdom” (2014)

  13. *DJ Mustard – Key tracks: YG feat. Tyga, Snoop Dogg and Nipsey Hussle, “Bitches Ain’t Shit” (2011), Tyga, “Rack City” (2011), Jeezy feat. 2 Chainz, “R.I.P.” (2012), Big Sean feat. E-40, “I Don’t feck With You” (2014)

  14. Beastie Boys – Key tracks: “Shake Your Rump” (1989), “Sabotage” (1994), “Too Many Rappers” (2011) (all by Beastie Boys)

  15. DJ Quick – Key tracks: DJ Quik, “Born and Raised in Compton” (1991), 2Pac, “Heartz of Men” (1996), DJ Quik, “Pitch In on a Party” (1999)

  16. Organized Noize – Key tracks: OutKast, “Player’s Ball” (1993), Goodie Mob, “Dirty South” (1995), OutKast, “So Fresh, So Clean” (2000)

  17. El-P – Key tracks: El-P, “Deep Space 9mm” (2002); El-P, “The Full Retard” (2012); Run the Jewels feat. Zack de la Rocha, “Close Your Eyes (And Count to feck)” (2014)

  18. Boi-1da – Key tracks: Drake, “Best I Ever Had” (2009); Eminem, “Not Afraid” (2010); Drake, “Energy” (2015)

  19. DJ Muggs – Key tracks: Cypress Hill, “Hand on the Pump” (1991); Cypress Hill, “Insane in the Brain” (1993); DJ Muggs feat. Dr. Dre and B-Real, “Puppet Master” (1997)

  20. Ant – Key Tracks: Atmosphere, “GodLovesUgly” (2002); Brother Ali, “Uncle Sam Goddamn” (2007); Atmosphere, “Puppets” (2008)

    http://www.laweekly.com/music/the-20-best-hip-hop-producers-of-all-time-6046678

    credit to Therealisback on RG.

    * - WTF?
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Just Blaze deserves an inclusion over a good portion of that list. Hard to argue with the top five, maybe just the order you'd put them in.
 
I just somehow cannot enjoy mainstream commercial hiphop , maybe it's the yelling of high-pitched voices over trap beats or something but overall I just don't like it. I enjoy some songs from Drake because of the beats, I like a few Kendrick Lamar songs but I seriously enjoy old school hiphop (90's and early 2000s) much more than hip hop today. I'm not even talking about lyrics, I don't listen to them with attention anyway, I'm talking about the beats and flows of rappers. I guess I'm more of a 90s boombap style hiphop fan.
 
Roman Bellic said:
They also apparently wanted to turn up.
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FYI, Mr. Lamar is having several concerts across the country, where he performs the entirety of TPAB, backed by a live band. I tried to get tickets for NYC's venue but they're all sold out, with 3rd party sites listing the cheapest at ~$300.
 
R.N7 said:
lol, no Madlib.
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bleezy said:
Just Blaze deserves an inclusion over a good portion of that list. Hard to argue with the top five, maybe just the order you'd put them in.
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Sacrilege to not include those, or people like Mannie Fresh (for the commercial side of things).

Apart from DJ Quik, the list is wrong starting from Mustard all the way down.
 
I forgot about Mannie Fresh, definitely deserves a place in the top 20. Probably one of the most overlooked producers in the whole industry, especially when he's responsible for creating the entire sound of a whole region. The influence the rappers he produced, Juve and Wayne most notably, was massive and still felt today, and so much of it is down to him.
 
bleezy said:
I forgot about Mannie Fresh, definitely deserves a place in the top 20. Probably one of the most overlooked producers in the whole industry, especially when he's responsible for creating the entire sound of a whole region. The influence the rappers he produced, Juve and Wayne most notably, was massive and still felt today, and so much of it is down to him.
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Yep. Top 20 producer lists are unfortunately biased towards influential East Coast/West Coast producers.

I think a top 20 producer list focusing exclusively on Southern Hip-Hop would be more intriguing.
 
adexkola said:
FYI, Mr. Lamar is having several concerts across the country, where he performs the entirety of TPAB, backed by a live band. I tried to get tickets for NYC's venue but they're all sold out, with 3rd party sites listing the cheapest at ~$300.
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Never doubted his conscious appeal, or the size of his fan base, his crossover appeal is what was in question.

I think the time schedule is a valid point.But, I also don't think TPAB (as great as it is), is the epidemic GKMC was.

The album is going to be twice as good with a live band.

Only a select few can pull it off.Only the crème de la crème, even manage to get that type of budget.
 
Roman Bellic said:
Never doubted his conscious appeal, or the size of his fan base, his crossover appeal is what was in question.

I think the time schedule is a valid point.But, I also don't think TPAB (as great as it is), is the epidemic GKMC was.

The album is going to be twice as good with a live band.

Only a select few can pull it off.Only the crème de la crème, even manage to get that type of budget.
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That's fair. I don't think I can argue he currently has half the crossover appeal of a Future or Drake, or even J Cole. Then again, that's ok.

I'm debating driving 4 hrs to the next city to catch him in concert.
 
adexkola said:
That's fair. I don't think I can argue he currently has half the crossover appeal of a Future or Drake, or even J Cole. Then again, that's ok.

I'm debating driving 4 hrs to the next city to catch him in concert.
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I'd do it for Kendrick. Depends on who you plan to go with, though.
 
adexkola said:
That's fair. I don't think I can argue he currently has half the crossover appeal of a Future or Drake, or even J Cole. Then again, that's ok.

I'm debating driving 4 hrs to the next city to catch him in concert.
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Do it, he's awesome live seen him 3x.
 
DJ Drama’s Ex-Wife Claims He Leaked Drake Reference Tracks
Just when the Meek Mill vs. Drake rift looked like it was winding down, DJ Drama’s ex-wife threw a wrench in the game. Summer Walker (a.k.a Summer Parker) claims Drama leaked Quentin Miller's reference tracks to Meek, and that’s just half of this crazy story.

Supposedly, Miller didn’t want to work with Meek so Drama gave him the music to “make him feel better.”

Another rumor is that Drake slept with Walker while she was still married to Drama. It also sounds like he dropped her name in at least two tracks, the most recent being “I’m the Plug” from What A Time To Be Alive.
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Not really that commercial, but this new Talib Kweli collaboration with 9th Wonder is a really solid album. Another great 2015 project.
 
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