Music Commercial Hip Hop Thread

@Hoof the ball , thanks for the Common album. It definitely lifted my mood.

Any other suggestions? Whats your top 5 albums?

I'll post an old favorite of mine too.

"Pieces of a Kid" by Isaiah Rashad
 
Eminem should have stopped after Encore. Even that wasn't as good as what came before but it was still decent.

He's still had a handful of good songs since then but the albums as a whole have been very forgettable.
 
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fen4e said:
@Hoof the ball , thanks for the Common album. It definitely lifted my mood.

Any other suggestions? Whats your top 5 albums?

I'll post an old favorite of mine too.

"Pieces of a Kid" by Isaiah Rashad
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That's a difficult one because it always rotates, but right now?

LL Cool J - Bigger and Deffer
Nas - Illmatic
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientelle
Outkast - ATLiens
A Tribe Called Quest - Low-End Theory

It'll be something completely different next month I'd imagine.

Honourable mention is :-

Slum Village - Fantastic Vol. 2
 
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sizzling sausages said:
Eminem should have stopped after Encore. Even that wasn't as good as what came before but it was still decent.

He's still had a handful of good songs since then but the albums as a whole have been very forgettable.
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I think his latest effort is a very good one. I don't think it deserves the mixed bag reviews it got, especially since, a lot of those mixed bag reviews are emanating from reviewers who don't specialise in hip hop and are likely to score some average indie album a four star and a good hip hop album a two star. All the relevant places for hip hop heads (Okayplayer, Reddit groups) are a lot more positive about the album in general.

Also, Music to be Murdered By was a good album too.
 
Q-Tip is killing it with the production on LL's album. This has just a little tinge of Prince Nelson Rogers on the track, and a really great collab with Saweetie.

Also a delightful Gary Numan sample.

 
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New single drop by LL Cool J and Eminem. This goes so damn hard. Best thing Em's been on all year. LL killed it.



[Verse 1: LL COOL J]
Do you remember first time you heard the legend in leather?
The career ender with the road-killer stuck to his fender
I'm on another bender, drunk off the power
That make a coward surrender as I devour contenders
Talkin' foul of whoever, your head is 'bout to get severed
Then I bounce it with pleasure, I'm pouring out Amaretto
Homies, I won't forgеt 'em, so tap the bottle and pour it
Supermodels I ignore 'em, later on it's like porn
Reincarnation of the Ripper, I give stitches and chest zippers
Cinderella's get propellered out their glass slippers
Time is tickin', giving ass whoppin's how we keep the cash flippin'

[Verse 2: Eminem & LL COOL J]
What? A supa-dupa switch up (What?)
I can't understand a single word you're saying
I think you have syrup brain
'Bout to finish you like polyurethane (Huh)
All that molly probably sure to drain your spinal fluid from your vertebrae
This the Murdergram and I brought my murder game
My shit fire, that is why you log on it like Duraflame
But as far as boulevards, I'm talking 'bout Farmers like insurance claims (Pff)
I just blew your girl away, but she on so much blow and lean (What?)
I call that fecking ho Katrina, somebody better give her a cane

[Verse 3: LL COOL J & Eminem]
And that's on everything (What?), she love my heavy chain
My yellow diamond shining, got her whipping like lemon meringue
Stripping in front of the gang, she's slipping inside of the Range
Quick to go out with a bang, it's like I threw out a grenade
Once you pull the pin, that's when the killing will begin
You feel me pulling off your skin, I really came to get it and deliver
Murdergrams, turn over your ambulance, thirty bullets in advance
Candlelight and crying fans, we gon' win it by a land-slide up behind you, testing my rifle
Give blessings to my disciples, professional I'm a sniper
Like eight miles away, me and Marshall doing murders
With dirty burners, break them down and melt them in the furnace


[Bridge: Eminem & LL COOL J]
Unapologetic and we're gonna cause a headache
Me and L about to set it, we about to murdergram it
Anyone of y'all can get it, so you might as well forget it
Either way you will regret it, cemetery’s where you're headed
Come on! (Yeah)

[Verse 4: LL COOL J]
The message in the chorus, you bastards got nothing for us
The overlord is the rawest
I ain't talkin' 'bout a rental car when I'm pullin' the Taurus
This Halloween them candy bars'll get you killed in the forest
We are lyrically lawless, stackin' money, hoarders
Slugs that make you forget all that slick-ass shit that you thought of
Blow your mind with the sawed off
Just when you thought it was safe, we bustin' at you from the Wraith
Then hittin' a donut, ain’t nothin' sweet when we come in to play

[Verse 5: Eminem, LL COOL J & Both]
When I say that you ain't feckin' with moi
I do not mean kisses blew, but I got the potential to
feckin' flip when I'm mentioned with a penchant to (What?)
Come back with a vengeance like Jack the Ripper
To rip it, just givin' you a sample, a feckin' snippet (Snip it), like scissors do
Now when I hit the booth, I think of the days of old when I was quick to fool
Used to fly off the handle like a feckin' witch's broom
I called it pluckin' flowers 'cause I was so quick to pick a tool up (Click-click)
Like it's petunias, sick medulla, but thanks to COOL J, he created a monster (What? Yeah!)
Spaghetti sauce and mozzarella on a tray full of pasta (What?)
You got a couple of motherfeckin' trained killers on ya (Trained kill-lasagna's)
And I'm just bein' as frank as Sinatra (Haha)
When I be sayin' that I'ma keep this shit gangster as mobsters (What?)
But when you got fanatics goin' so crazy, they mob ya
Lookin' like organized crime because you can't get 'em off ya (Mafia)
And all your motherf****g enemies, they wanna off ya, like Hoffa
And dump your body in Lake Minnetonka (Shhh)
That's how you know you feckin' saw, and you came, and you conquered
Veni, vidi, vici, stompin' and makin' 'em bonkers
Now women treat me like B.D.K. (Kane), the king, and they feed me grapes (Yeah)
Either way, I got more on my plate than an all you can eat buffet (Woo)
So better pick a B.C. date 'cause your history is shady (Yeah, set)
As they 'bout to set it on you like a TV tray (Haha, yup)
Man, I see the way people say I'm so evil (What?)
They feckin' think that Timothy McVeigh and my DNA are exactly the same
But when I leave this game (Nope)
Things just ain't gonna be the same (Nah)
But it's in need of change (Yeah), and I'm the meter maid (Haha)
Go ahead and crack a bottle, 'cause this is E and J
Meaning me and James (Yeah)
Got that avocado and we the sociopaths
And we got your ho on our laps
And we're goin' back to Cali so she can blow on our sax (-sacks)

[Outro: Eminem & LL COOL J]
Brang-brang, brr-brr-brr-brrr, brr-brring
I don't think so
 
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Salt Bailly said:

Big Willy is back and it's...pretty good?
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I trusted you dude. Wtf is this? There’s about 3 songs in there, wrapped up in a duvet of pretentious bollocks (admittedly the video is doing the heavy lifting there).

Barbs aside… I’ve always loved Will Smith. Remove the acting and give him a sane wife that doesn’t LA him, and I think he’d have grown into a fully formed artist. I fecking love his flow, his playfulness and his whole attitude.

But I can’t get on board with this self indulgent stuff. I think it’s because he never really existed inside the culture and always seemed to be commenting on it. It never quite clicked for him.

It’s always seemed odd to me that all of that natural charisma and infectious fun, just… died. It seems to have been resurrected as a pursuit of something. Like… he won he first ever rap Grammy, 35 years ago. Crazy that that didn’t manifest into something culturally significant, considering the fact he hasn’t been not-famous since then.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
I trusted you dude. Wtf is this? There’s about 3 songs in there, wrapped up in a duvet of pretentious bollocks (admittedly the video is doing the heavy lifting there).
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:lol:
I agree with you on the self indulgent angle. The track is derivative, forgettable and I haven't listened to it since i posted it in this thread...but I'd still class it as pretty good! Certainly better than anything I expected will smith to be releasing in 2024.

A far cry from making the playlist rotation but I'm intrigued enough to give his next one a bash.
 
Salt Bailly said:
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I agree with you on the self indulgent angle. The track is derivative, forgettable and I haven't listened to it since i posted it in this thread...but I'd still class it as pretty good! Certainly better than anything I expected will smith to be releasing in 2024.

A far cry from making the playlist rotation but I'm intrigued enough to give his next one a bash.
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[Tiniest voice] Lost & Found was a fecking enjoyable album. Very shark jumpy, but knowingly so, and I adored it.
 
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Don't recognise a single song off the track list. Must've come out when I was in my big willy wilderness.
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You’ll have heard ‘Switch’.

I played that new track while my girlfriend was in the shower, after telling her he released a new track, then queued Lost & Found.

She got out of the shower and berated me through a plume of steam. “Oh poor Will Smith. So misunderstood as an artist. Someone tell him he’s 50”.

1. He’s 55
2. She thought all of it was new.
3. Lost and Found came out in 2005. That’s almost two decades ago.
4. She is wrong and I am right. It’s a fun Album.

Regardless, Will Smith should have carved out a retiree career of short guest appearances. He’s up there with 3k (yes I said it, and Andre is in my top 10) as an exciting guest 16. His obsession with making hits, post 35 has been a bad call.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
You’ll have heard ‘Switch’.

I played that new track while my girlfriend was in the shower, after telling her he released a new track, then queued Lost & Found.

She got out of the shower and berated me through a plume of steam. “Oh poor Will Smith. So misunderstood as an artist. Someone tell him he’s 50”.

1. He’s 55
2. She thought all of it was new.
3. Lost and Found came out in 2005. That’s almost two decades ago.
4. She is wrong and I am right. It’s a fun Album.

Regardless, Will Smith should have carved out a retiree career of short guest appearances. He’s up there with 3k (yes I said it, and Andre is in my top 10) as an exciting guest 16. His obsession with making hits, post 35 has been a bad call.
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Wait, what? He is? I don't know anybody that would bat an eyelid for a Will Smith verse, but Andre 3000? People would go nuts for it.
 
pocco said:
Wait, what? He is? I don't know anybody that would bat an eyelid for a Will Smith verse, but Andre 3000? People would go nuts for it.
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Yeah 100%. Know that I’m not saying he is now, or ever. I mean had he made the same kind of departure from needing to be a rap superstar, and allowed himself to be merely seasoning on the biggest tracks every year or two, he’d be exciting and well regarded.

He’s got a bunch of different flows, he can write, and raps his ass off plenty. He used to be Captain charisma and could have maintained that without wanting to be an A List actor and a platinum selling solo rap artist. He had the talent to do the doing, but nothing like the talent well to keep making albums of 4 minute tracks. Plenty of great 16’s sprinkled amongst them though.

He’s now a corny fifty something with weird kids and a wife that embarrasses him on tv, to the extent he slaps Chris Rock.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Yeah 100%. Know that I’m not saying he is now, or ever. I mean had he made the same kind of departure from needing to be a rap superstar, and allowed himself to be merely seasoning on the biggest tracks every year or two, he’d be exciting and well regarded.

He’s got a bunch of different flows, he can write, and raps his ass off plenty. He used to be Captain charisma and could have maintained that without wanting to be an A List actor and a platinum selling solo rap artist. He had the talent to do the doing, but nothing like the talent well to keep making albums of 4 minute tracks. Plenty of great 16’s sprinkled amongst them though.

He’s now a corny fifty something with weird kids and a wife that embarrasses him on tv, to the extent he slaps Chris Rock.
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Yeah he's a far cry from the smooth brother of the 90s. He doesn't have that playful charm anymore.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Yeah 100%. Know that I’m not saying he is now, or ever. I mean had he made the same kind of departure from needing to be a rap superstar, and allowed himself to be merely seasoning on the biggest tracks every year or two, he’d be exciting and well regarded.

He’s got a bunch of different flows, he can write, and raps his ass off plenty. He used to be Captain charisma and could have maintained that without wanting to be an A List actor and a platinum selling solo rap artist. He had the talent to do the doing, but nothing like the talent well to keep making albums of 4 minute tracks. Plenty of great 16’s sprinkled amongst them though.

He’s now a corny fifty something with weird kids and a wife that embarrasses him on tv, to the extent he slaps Chris Rock.
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Maybe I've just never given him his dues or a fair listen, but I always thought everybody just thought he was a bit corny in general, albeit fun now and then. In the 90s and 00s I think he could have got away with it a bit more, but the way rap has gone these days I don't think he'd have a part to play. As a genre it feels less fun, braggadocius, and lacking charisma than previous decades, to me.
 
fen4e said:
@Hoof the ball , thanks for the Common album. It definitely lifted my mood.

Any other suggestions? Whats your top 5 albums?

I'll post an old favorite of mine too.

"Pieces of a Kid" by Isaiah Rashad
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Super old comment, but I'd like to list my top 5 in no particular order. Some are obvious, but give a full listen to any of these if you haven't already

  • Madvillainy - MF DOOM
  • Illmatic - Nas
  • Donuts - J Dilla
  • Low end theory - Tribe
  • G.K.M.C - Kendrick Lamar
Honourable mention to The Magnificent by Jazzy Jeff which most people are not aware of, but I come back to it every year or so
 
LL Cool J's "The Force" dropped today and it might just be album of the year, if not, top 5 at least.

Every track produced by Q-Tip, features from Snoop, Nas, Eminem, Busta Rhymes. Sounds like LL went touring with The Roots.

Album title track.
 
The Rich Homie Quan news was upsetting. RHQ, along with some others of course, more or less pioneered that 2015-ish wave of Atlanta rap.

On another note, what is it with laced pills in America in the last few years?
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
You’ll have heard ‘Switch’.

I played that new track while my girlfriend was in the shower, after telling her he released a new track, then queued Lost & Found.

She got out of the shower and berated me through a plume of steam. “Oh poor Will Smith. So misunderstood as an artist. Someone tell him he’s 50”.

1. He’s 55
2. She thought all of it was new.
3. Lost and Found came out in 2005. That’s almost two decades ago.
4. She is wrong and I am right. It’s a fun Album.

Regardless, Will Smith should have carved out a retiree career of short guest appearances. He’s up there with 3k (yes I said it, and Andre is in my top 10) as an exciting guest 16. His obsession with making hits, post 35 has been a bad call.
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I really looked Lost & Found. He even swears for the first time!
 
Hoof the ball said:
LL Cool J's "The Force" dropped today and it might just be album of the year, if not, top 5 at least.

Every track produced by Q-Tip, features from Snoop, Nas, Eminem, Busta Rhymes. Sounds like LL went touring with The Roots.

Album title track.
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It's incredible.
 
AnotherLondonManc said:
Super old comment, but I'd like to list my top 5 in no particular order. Some are obvious, but give a full listen to any of these if you haven't already

  • Madvillainy - MF DOOM
  • Illmatic - Nas
  • Donuts - J Dilla
  • Low end theory - Tribe
  • G.K.M.C - Kendrick Lamar
Honourable mention to The Magnificent by Jazzy Jeff which most people are not aware of, but I come back to it every year or so
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Good music is always appreciated.

Will give all this a listen, love me some Jazzy Jeff.
 
Salt Bailly said:
LL, Eminem and Nas. All in their 50s. Impressive.
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No doubt. The old heads come back and show how the game is still done.

LL is a pioneer.

He pioneered the radio rap track. Prior to LL, there was no "4 minute" radio rap as everyone does it today.

First ever rap superstar too. First to become a media icon and be in mainstream. Everyone was dressing like him, talking like him in the 80s/90s. It's easy to forget now.

And weirdly enough, was the creator of the phrase the GOAT that just about everyone in the world seems to use these days. :lol:
 
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