College Football & NFL thread 2007/8

The silver lining I can get from the Boys debacle yesterday is at least they won't be humiliated by NE in the Super Bowl. Yes, I'd rather lose in a playoff game than to get to the championship and get blown out. Losing a championship game hurts worse than not getting there, IMO. No one remembers the teams that fail to reach the title game, but everyone remembers the winner and the loser of the title game.

No one will ever forget my Bills and their 4 straight Super Bowl losses....

I'm off to cry about it now... :annoyed:
 
No one will ever forget my Bills and their 4 straight Super Bowl losses....

I'm off to cry about it now... :annoyed:

I will tell you what, they will remember you a lot better when you win one or two or more:p
 
Norwood gets a lot of unfair schtick for that miss, but that's the life of a kicker in the NFL. Perhaps if the Bills defense had made some plays that day or the offense likewise, maybe he would have been closer than 47 yards or maybe the Bills would have been winning.

Super Bowl XXV
Further information: Wide Right (Buffalo Bills)
Super Bowl XXV would cement Norwood's name in football history when he missed a 47-yard field goal attempt at the end of the game, giving the New York Giants the victory. ABC sportscaster Al Michaels had the call: "No good! Wide right!" as the Giants poured Gatorade over head coach Bill Parcells' head.

While Norwood always will be blamed by many for "choking" in the clutch, the other Bills had many opportunities during the course of the game to put it away on their own. On the opening drive of the third quarter, the Bills' defense allowed the Giants' offense to chew up 9:29 by converting three third-down conversions. One conversion was on a third-and-13 play where, after Giants quarterback Jeff Hostetler completed a short pass to receiver Mark Ingram, the Bills missed several easy tackles and allowed Ingram to pick up the first down. This play eventually would lead to a Giants touchdown. The problem that ultimately killed the Bills in the end was the amount of time their defense was on the field. The Giants controlled the ball for a total of 40:33.

Before the game started, Norwood was kicking balls at the right upright, and seeing them hook left and through. With the fourth-quarter kick, Norwood played it just like in warm-ups--only this time the ball did not hook, it kept going straight.

Prior to Super Bowl XXV, Norwood had never hit a field goal from that distance on a grass field, and that season was in fact just 1-for-5 from over 40 yards on grass. New York Giants placekicker Matt Bahr -- who himself had hit the winning field goal on the last play of the game one week earlier in the NFC Championship Game against the San Francisco 49ers -- informed New York Giants coach Bill Parcells before the kick attempt that Norwood would miss.

Also, it must be noted that Norwood had successfully kicked a field goal in the first quarter of this game. Without that, Buffalo would not have even been able to attempt a last second field goal on their final drive, as they would have been down by 4 points at the time instead of 1.

His missed kick opportunity became part of a plot idea for the 1994 comedy film Ace Ventura: Pet Detective where the "Ray Finkle" character is loosely based on Norwood, although placed more in the context of the Miami Dolphins losing a Super Bowl in the 1984 NFL season. The 1998 film Buffalo '66, the main character seeks revenge on the man indirectly responsible for his imprisonment, Scott "Wood." The missed kick was also spoofed on an episode of Robot Chicken.
 
Deserved or not, Norwood should have won the game, and would have gotten all the plaudits had he, he didn't, he choked and missed by a couple of feet and he has to live with it, which is even worse considering they lost the next three consecutively after having their best shot in the first one, I remember Whitney was money for the national anthem that game.
 
alright I just read up on him in wiki. Suprised he couldn't get a job after his time with the bills. Bills fans must really hate him. RC, do you support the bills cause they are closest NFL team to Toronto or you been a lifelong bills fan or what? Just curious.

Lifelong. Growing up the Bills were the only NFL team that we would get on the television in Toronto, so I started to follow them.

Norwood gets a lot of unfair schtick for that miss, but that's the life of a kicker in the NFL. Perhaps if the Bills defense had made some plays that day or the offense likewise, maybe he would have been closer than 47 yards or maybe the Bills would have been winning.

A kicker only has one job: kick field goals, extra points, and kick offs. It's not like it was a 50+ yarder. Plus, we all know Norwood was a shit kicker past 40 yards. Levy should have realized this during the season, watching him miss all but one attempt from that distance. He should have been let go before the playoffs, but I guess no one was available...
 
the jints have the only thing that can stop the pats. a pass rush. they played them pretty well at the end of the season when the giants had nothing to play for (a trip to TB was in the cards already) and the pats were shooting for perfection. that being said , i don't think any team will beat the pats. brady needs to be on his back , that doesn't happen very often.
the farve v brady story would really be best for neutrals.
 
So we are down to 4. Just went through the pre-season picks and apart from those who picked the shite from NE, a couple of guys and me picked the Chargers.

California Love!!
 
So we are down to 4. Just went through the pre-season picks and apart from those who picked the shite from NE, a couple of guys and me picked the Chargers.

California Love!!

shite from NE? then what's that make the rest of the league. i'm a giants fan and never thought the team would go this far. but to post "shite from NE" means you're bitter or know sfa about football or both! i'll be pulling for the bolts because they aren't as good as the pats and IF the giants beat farve they can beat the bolts. easier road really!
 
shite from NE? then what's that make the rest of the league. i'm a giants fan and never thought the team would go this far. but to post "shite from NE" means you're bitter or know sfa about football or both! i'll be pulling for the bolts because they aren't as good as the pats and IF the giants beat farve they can beat the bolts. easier road really!

I hate the NE blockbusters. they are talented no doubt but they are also a group of classless cnuts.
 
I hate the NE blockbusters. they are talented no doubt but they are also a group of classless cnuts.

like phil rivers and that lot for the bolts? what makes them classless other than you must be a bolts fan? are you? if so - go bolts! rather play the mouthy cnuts from SD than NE in the supe any day!
 
like phil rivers and that lot for the bolts? what makes them classless other than you must be a bolts fan? are you? if so - go bolts! rather play the mouthy cnuts from SD than NE in the supe any day!

Like running up the score on teams with time running out in the 4th, like cheating by taping opposing teams signals and by having a cnut as a HC.
 
Like running up the score on teams with time running out in the 4th, like cheating by taping opposing teams signals and by having a cnut as a HC.

LOL - they got caught in the 1st qtr in the first game. and caught is the key - other teams did it and didn't get caught. and running up a score is not down to the team scoring , it's incumbent on the other team to stop them. FFS stop pissing and moaning. did you think UNITED's 4th , 5th and 6th goals were running it up. it's simple you want a low score - stop the other team. and i wish the giants had that cnut as a head coach , and ffs they could have.

but like i said come on bolts! - i'd rather the jints play them - the guys who complain rather than play 60 mins.
 
I hate the NE blockbusters. they are talented no doubt but they are also a group of classless cnuts.

Harrison lacks class but the rest of the team seem classy, save the occasional arrogant talk or whatnot.

Rivers and Merriman lack any class. Merriman doing his little sack dance when Manning went down on his own after a busted play. The guy is a steroid user yet the media and league just ignore it. If he was a Cowboy or Patriot he'd be a villain today.
 
Both New England and San Diego are full of cheating shitheads, however Belicunt is on his own level what a douchebag
 
Both New England and San Diego are full of cheating shitheads, however Belicunt is on his own level what a douchebag

LOL - like i've posted before - i'd love him to come back to the giants. keano was a "douche bag" to the opposition.
 
LOL - like i've posted before - i'd love him to come back to the giants. keano was a "douche bag" to the opposition.

Yeah at least Keano has class and wears suits during the gmae, we all know what Belicunt wears
 
yep that's what makes a great coach - jesus wept!

He is a great coach, one of the best ever obviously just based on the dynasty he has built in New England. I just hate him in general and don't want to see him get his day in the sun, I really hope they lose today, I will be overjoyed
 
He is a great coach, one of the best ever obviously just based on the dynasty he has built in New England. I just hate him in general and don't want to see him get his day in the sun, I really hope they lose today, I will be overjoyed

his 4th day in the sun! 4th. i thought the pat's were nuts giving away their "future" in draft picks to get him. i'd have the giants do it twice to have him back!
 
his 4th day in the sun! 4th. i thought the pat's were nuts giving away their "future" in draft picks to get him. i'd have the giants do it twice to have him back!

4th, but this would be the ultimate an undefeated team
 
so, it's going to be the giants against the pats for the superbowl

who would have imagined -when the play off started- that new york will make it this far

anyway, giants vs packers was a great game but i don't think they would stand a chance against brady and co
 
so, it's going to be the giants against the pats for the superbowl

who would have imagined -when the play off started- that new york will make it this far

anyway, giants vs packers was a great game but i don't think they would stand a chance against brady and co

well as a giants fan you have to be in it to win it. problem is does brady have crap games back to back? can manning play like he's done for one more game? TBH the jints are playing w/ house money for a lot of us fans , but the players know that it's one and done. and it may be the one and only supe you get to.
 
Scary thing is Moss has been kept quiet in the playoffs so far and he rarely goes 3-4 games being kept in check. He's due a break out performance. His first trip to the big game might be that time. What I hate about the NFL is the two week layoff between the conference title games and the Super Bowl. If the NFL really wanted the Pro Bowl to gain some importance and viewers, they would televise the weekend in-between. The SB players would probably not go but hell, half don't go the following weekend anyhow.

Sad that Favre blew the game yesterday. Hope he comes back another year. Unlike Marino, Favre is still playing at a high level this late in his career. NE and fans are very fortunate that LT lasted a couple plays yesterday or SD might have won that game. LT is such a threat in so many ways and you just know they would have called a RB pass play at some point with LT in there. Might have made the difference in the red zone as Turner just isn't that great.
 
Sad that Favre blew the game yesterday. Hope he comes back another year. Unlike Marino, Favre is still playing at a high level this late in his career.

he's done that (ints) his entire career. many of those come backs in the 4th qtr are because he dug himself the hole to begin with. the giants defence won that game. 28 yds rushing on a cold (very cold) night. and the giants dominated every single stat. other than a few big plays (one huge play) and that game should have and could have been over by the 3rd qtr! FFS mcquarters' fumbles alone led to a 6 point swing.