Cold War against China?

VorZakone said:
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I hope the other coast guard units from other countries have taken note to do about the same Chinese fishing boats as well.

By the way, is there a reason why tweets are showing up in a very bizarre way today? I can click on the link, but I can't see the actual tweet on this forum at the moment.
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
I hope the other coast guard units from other countries have taken note to do about the same Chinese fishing boats as well.

By the way, is there a reason why tweets are showing up in a very bizarre way today? I can click on the link, but I can't see the actual tweet on this forum at the moment.
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Been sketchy for me all day as well.
 
Slow clap to Xi Jinping. Does he even know how much of a major feck-up his administration has done to make Western firms say that China has become uninvestable within just a few years?

Commerce secretary says US firms complain China is ‘uninvestable’ (CNBC)

“Increasingly I hear from American business that China is uninvestable because it’s become too risky,” [ U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo ] said. “So businesses look for other opportunities, they look for other countries, they look for other places to go.”
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neverdie said:
Most would still say that's going to happen by the end of the next decade.


By 2050:

  • The world economy could more than double in size by 2050, far outstripping population growth, due to continued technology-driven productivity improvements
  • Emerging markets (E7) could grow around twice as fast as advanced economies (G7) on average
  • As a result, six of the seven largest economies in the world are projected to be emerging economies in 2050 led by China (1st), India (2nd) and Indonesia (4th)
  • The US could be down to third place in the global GDP rankings while the EU27’s share of world GDP could fall below 10% by 2050
  • UK could be down to 10th place by 2050, France out of the top 10 and Italy out of the top 20 as they are overtaken by faster growing emerging economies like Mexico, Turkey and Vietnam respectively
  • But emerging economies need to enhance their institutions and their infrastructure significantly if they are to realise their long-term growth potential
China and then US (qualitatively) and India. In that order. India has at least 30 years to go to get to a per capita level rather than just PPP (equilibrium). China has overtaken the us in pure PPP terms already. In nominal terms, the US is still ahead but unlikely, or close to impossible, for that to remain 15+ years into the future. It's just simple mathematics. Despite Japan's problems, debt, mostly, they still have an economy which represents a trade surplus of a 100 billion per year (it's growing).
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I would take any bet that US economy won't be smaller than India's by 2050. I think there is a chance, but unlikely, that China will surpass the US by 2030 (bear in mind, it was supposed to have done it already). I think there is 0 chance that Indonesia is going to be the 4th largest GDP in the world by 2050. I have extreme scepticism that any of, let alone all, of Mexico, Turkey and Vietnam are going to surpass France or Italy.

I have doubts that any of the things you said will happen to be fair. The issue is that oracles for most part are false oracles. They have just seen China's economy and extrapolate that other China-like countries (large countries that could develop) are going to do the same, which is not the case. No country has been able to do what China did, and I do not think this is going to happen anytime soon.
 
Revan said:
I have doubts that any of the things you said will happen to be fair. The issue is that oracles for most part are false oracles.
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I'm 100% certain it will happen. The order is loosely known (China, US, India) then the rest in whatever order.

I wouldn't take the order to be literally true, 1-10. beyond 1-4 (EU with the other three, as bloc), but it's generally what it will look like with a rather small margin of error.
 
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Revan said:
I would take any bet that US economy won't be smaller than India's by 2050. I think there is a chance, but unlikely, that China will surpass the US by 2030 (bear in mind, it was supposed to have done it already). I think there is 0 chance that Indonesia is going to be the 4th largest GDP in the world by 2050. I have extreme scepticism that any of, let alone all, of Mexico, Turkey and Vietnam are going to surpass France or Italy.

I have doubts that any of the things you said will happen to be fair. The issue is that oracles for most part are false oracles. They have just seen China's economy and extrapolate that other China-like countries (large countries that could develop) are going to do the same, which is not the case. No country has been able to do what China did, and I do not think this is going to happen anytime soon.
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It's from 2017, which means it's practically ancient in today's world.
 
In the context of the recent release of treated wastewater from Fukushima, here is what the US ambassador to Japan has to say about China's protests and actions against Japan over Fukushima. Let's say that he doesn't pull back punches at all in the following excerpt, especially when he has facts and data on his side.

US ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel said:
“There is a stark contrast to be made and lesson to be learned from Japan's meticulous handling of Fukushima's treated water compared with China's approach to public health challenges that have originated in its own backyard, such as avian flu, SARS and COVID-19.

One cannot help but wonder how different the global health landscape would be and how many lives would have been saved if China had engaged in even a fraction of the due diligence, openness and international cooperation that Japan has in managing Fukushima.

In those cases, China's response was marked by a lack of transparency, accountability or timely information sharing with the global community. This not only hampered an effective response in real time but has also led to the loss of countless lives

China has not subjected itself to scientific scrutiny with its own power plant releases. China routinely discharges tritium from at least four reactors — namely, Hongyanhe, Qinshan Phase III, Ningde and Yangjiang — at levels five times higher than that now being released from Fukushima Daiichi. This occurs without any international scientific review, consultation or notification. The lack of scientific rigor is glaring, especially when contrasted with Japan's work with the IAEA.”
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Full statement (Nikkei Asia)
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
In the context of the recent release of treated wastewater from Fukushima, here is what the US ambassador to Japan has to say about China's protests and actions against Japan over Fukushima. Let's say that he doesn't pull back punches at all in the following excerpt, especially when he has facts and data on his side.



Full statement (Nikkei Asia)
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This should be reported everywhere. The politest "FINISH HIM!" you'll ever see.
 
There is mounting evidence that China is actively conducting an anti West policy.
This thread is in direct opposition to the Cold War Against China thread.
 
Imran Khan tried to join in alongside China. He has since been ousted and put in jail thanks to the West.
 
Sweet Square said:
China is destroying Europe with its cheap affordable electric cars!
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Unlike Europe that is destroying the market and buyers with big prices and terrible quality, and also terrible service. I hate Chinese products, but in some markets like car market we definitely need more influence because European producers have ruined the market with prices and shite product, and EU are allowing them that.
 
I am entering into higher education in 2024 as a mature student, I can't wait to get a degree and flee to (South) East-Asia at the first opportunity.
 
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