Cody Gakpo | OFFICIAL: Liverpool player

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Yeah because managers never make bad signings. I think you should check out what the likes of Labyad, Promes, Klaiber , Pirie, Lisandro Magallan, Marin and Kristensen are doing with their careers right now since they were all ETH signings

Shopping at a different store though since coming to United.
 


We are skint :lol:

It seems we will get this Gakpo fella with a structured fee in the range of £40M-£45M.

I am not convinced by Gakpo but I like what I read about him being an intelligent lad working hard to improve his game to succeed at top level, and if Ten Hag wants him, then I am for it though.
 
I watched him during the WC and I got the impression that he is.....basically Rashford. Not enough physical presence to play up top and likes attacking from the left and cutting in. Not sure if they can play together to be honest, but again this is based on a very small sample size of WC matches.
 
They'll just stick it on the credit card, it's not like the Glazers will be paying it off.

Zero risk for them, a few more million on the player debt sheet won't make any difference to what they get for the club, but if it gets us in the top 4 whilst the sale is happening then all the better for them, but again won't make any difference to the sale price.
 
Out of nowhere, Skybet have made Liverpool 11/8 favourites to sign Gakpo, with United on 6/4. Has anyone heard anything about Liverpool's interest, as I had heard it was Arsenal who were also snooping around?
 
I think this is a done deal in January.

Out of nowhere, Skybet have made Liverpool 11/8 favourites to sign Gakpo, with United on 6/4. Has anyone heard anything about Liverpool's interest, as I had heard it was Arsenal who were also snooping around?

Not a chance this ever happens. He's set on United, and he has been speaking to ETH for a while I think.

I really think ETH said listen, we have had to bid more for Antony, we haven't moved on Cristiano yet. We will come back for you next window.

Looking at Gakpo I think he will be great at shielding the ball and he hits the ball so cleanly too I think he's at the stage where he will start to post some good numbers.

Not sure what this means for Martial with his injury record though.
 
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I think this is a done deal in January.



Not a chance this ever happens. He's set on United, and he has been speaking to ETH for a while I think.

I really think ETH said listen, we have had to bid more for Antony, we haven't moved on Cristiano yet. We will come back for you next window.

Looking at Gakpo I think he will be great at shielding the ball and he hits the ball so cleanly too I think he's at the stage where he will start to post some good numbers.

Not sure what this means for Martial with his injury record though.

 
13 goals and 17 assists. Is that a genuine statistic? :eek:

It’s pretty impressive even for the Dutch league. That’s like Suarez numbers, isn’t it?
 
13 goals and 17 assists. Is that a genuine statistic? :eek:

It’s pretty impressive even for the Dutch league. That’s like Suarez numbers, isn’t it?
These are impressive numbers in any league competitions.
 
13 goals and 17 assists. Is that a genuine statistic? :eek:

It’s pretty impressive even for the Dutch league. That’s like Suarez numbers, isn’t it?
It’s better than Suarez. He’s currently operating at a record level G/A per 90 for the Eredivise.

Which is why I’m quite a fan of his.
 
It’s better than Suarez. He’s currently operating at a record level G/A per 90 for the Eredivise.

Which is why I’m quite a fan of his.
His stats may be better but he's certainly not better than Suarez as a player.

I like him but he's too similar to Rashford in that he can do feck all and be anonymous for 88 minutes and score in a moment. That's fine if one of the front 3 is like that, but it can be a problem if 2 out of the front 3 are like that.

That said, ETH probably has a plan to better him. He might turn him into an out and out CF which will be interesting.
 
13 goals and 17 assists. Is that a genuine statistic? :eek:

It’s pretty impressive even for the Dutch league. That’s like Suarez numbers, isn’t it?
Yea those are in all comps this season.

He's at 9 goals and 12 assists in the league so far through 14 matches.

Ranks first in goals, assists, shots, key passes, MOTM's and second in dribbles in the league.
 
Current Season:
Goal or assist every 65 mins
Goal every 150 mins
Assist every 115 mins

Across his entire career so far in Eredivise:
Goal or assist every 87 mins.
 
His stats may be better but he's certainly not better than Suarez as a player.

I like him but he's too similar to Rashford in that he can do feck all and be anonymous for 88 minutes and score in a moment. That's fine if one of the front 3 is like that, but it can be a problem if 2 out of the front 3 are like that.

That said, ETH probably has a plan to better him. He might turn him into an out and out CF which will be interesting.
He’s not as technically gifted but I’d argue he’s a better finisher and creator.

He’s far better than many give credit for.
 
Current Season:
Goal or assist every 65 mins
Goal every 150 mins
Assist every 115 mins

Across his entire career so far in Eredivise:
Goal or assist every 87 mins.
That’s ridiculous. I feel fans are being a bit clever with their analysis of him as a player against stats like these
 
He’s not as technically gifted but I’d argue he’s a better finisher and creator.

He’s far better than many give credit for.
That's a very bold shout, we'll have to wait and see I guess.

I'd like to see what the resident Erivederse have to say about Gakpo as a player. From what I've read his goal / assist contributions are there but he's still too raw and not very pacey.

Also he creates a lot with his looped crosses, but we have mostly really shit headers of the ball across our front 3. I doubt he'd be taking corners off what we currently have.
 
At the same age and at this stage in their careers I think Gakpo’s ball striking is better.
Have you seen him play regularly? from what I've seen he has a fair few speculative efforts that go way off. It's why I dont like watching youtube highlights of any player.
 
That's a very bold shout, we'll have to wait and see I guess.

I'd like to see what the resident Erivederse have to say about Gakpo as a player. From what I've read his goal / assist contributions are there but he's still too raw and not very pacey.

Also he creates a lot with his looped crosses, but we have mostly really shit headers of the ball across our front 3. I doubt he'd be taking corners off what we currently have.
I’m one of them.
 
Have you seen him play regularly? from what I've seen he has a fair few speculative efforts that go way off. It's why I dont like watching youtube highlights of any player.

Greenwood also had plenty of shots that went far wide or over the cross bar but his ball striking was still excellent. Same applies to Gakpo.
 
I’m one of them.
Sorry I meant others too. Not that I don't value your opinion, you probably watched him more than I have. I'm just wary of different conclusions on players when people see them play.


Redcafe has many watchers of United regularly and we'll still find polarising opinions on Fred/Martial/Rashford/McT the lot of them :lol:
 
Greenwood also had plenty of shots that went far wide or over the cross bar but his ball striking was still excellent. Same applies to Gakpo.
That's true. But Greenwood was incredibly well polished for his age in build up play too. Gakpo might be too but Greenwood looked well press resitant.
 
Sorry I meant others too. Not that I don't value your opinion, you probably watched him more than I have. I'm just wary of different conclusions on players when people see them play.


Redcafe has many watchers of United regularly and we'll still find polarising opinions on Fred/Martial/Rashford/McT the lot of them :lol:
No worries. I think if we sign him hell surprise quite a few with how consistently he’s able to perform high quality chance creations or shots.

Every player in world football occasionally messes up but Gakpo consistently gets in the right place for the right pass/cross/shot for different situations.

He’s not a tricky dribbling winger but a goal producing machine which I think given we have only scored 20 in the league we could do with more Gakpo’s.
 
No worries. I think if we sign him hell surprise quite a few with how consistently he’s able to perform high quality chance creations or shots.

Every player in world football occasionally messes up but Gakpo consistently gets in the right place for the right pass/cross/shot for different situations.

He’s not a tricky dribbling winger but a goal producing machine which I think given we have only scored 20 in the league we could do with more Gakpo’s.
Where would you reckon we'd play him then? If he's suited to constantly finding himself in the right positions then I'm assuming he's going to be remoulded as a CF that can also work channels?
 
No worries. I think if we sign him hell surprise quite a few with how consistently he’s able to perform high quality chance creations or shots.

Every player in world football occasionally messes up but Gakpo consistently gets in the right place for the right pass/cross/shot for different situations.

He’s not a tricky dribbling winger but a goal producing machine which I think given we have only scored 20 in the league we could do with more Gakpo’s.

He seems like he's built for the prem really, strong enough he can roll people, hold up the ball, has some tricks and has a hell of a shot too.

I think he's a bit boring because he seems to be effective without it really looking fancy. He's basically if Bellingham was a forward to me in play style.
 
Have you seen him play regularly? from what I've seen he has a fair few speculative efforts that go way off. It's why I dont like watching youtube highlights of any player.

Surely this applies to plenty of goalscorers? You have to speculate to accumulate etc

Not sure it’s a negative. As people keep saying about Nunez, Gakpo seems to have this habit of always being in the right positions. That’s one of the hardest things really but with him it seems to come naturally.

I would say it is also very positive that he was able to translate this in to the World Cup. Away from the Eredivise.
 
13 goals and 17 assists. Is that a genuine statistic? :eek:

It’s pretty impressive even for the Dutch league. That’s like Suarez numbers, isn’t it?

Yep.

And while that involves some penalties and overperformance on his underlying stats, his underlying stats are still excellent too. Even if he just returned what he was "expected" to, it would still be a non-penalty goal or assist roughly every 98 minutes.

Even accepting that it's in the Dutch league, that's a lot of output.
 
Surely this applies to plenty of goalscorers? You have to speculate to accumulate etc

Not sure it’s a negative. As people keep saying about Nunez, Gakpo seems to have this habit of always being in the right positions. That’s one of the hardest things really but with him it seems to come naturally.

I would say it is also very positive that he was able to translate this in to the World Cup. Away from the Eredivise.
You can but the worry I have with Gapko is that he's not a CF. And nor is Rashford or Antony. So wel have too many of this type. Antony at least offers the traditional hugging the byline winger play and a left foot.

If Gapko is coming in to be retrained as a CF then I can see the plan. Otherwise it strikes me as a bigger misfit than signing Felix. At least Felix can be a good false 9 which Ten Hag is familiar with.
 
You can but the worry I have with Gapko is that he's not a CF. And nor is Rashford or Antony. So wel have too many of this type. Antony at least offers the traditional hugging the byline winger play and a left foot.

If Gapko is coming in to be retrained as a CF then I can see the plan. Otherwise it strikes me as a bigger misfit than signing Felix. At least Felix can be a good false 9 which Ten Hag is familiar with.

I agree he’s not currently an out and out 9 but then I’m not fully convinced Ten Hag is looking for one in January, added to the fact that there’s limited availability for this profile of player in this period.

I think Gakpo’s age, output and versatility actually play in his favour and make him quite an appealing signing in January as you can see him being useful past the summer. It then gives us time to correctly identify someone for the number 9 profile and look to deal with this in the next window.

To me it’s quite a low risk deal with easily more positive outcomes than negative.
 
I'm surprised people think he's like Rashford, I think they couldn't be more opposite - same position, sure, but completely different styles in how they're effective.

I'm really warming up to this potential signing, he certainly has certain attributes that he'll need to work on, but he will certainly improve our squad from what I've seen.
 
I'm surprised people think he's like Rashford, I think they couldn't be more opposite - same position, sure, but completely different styles in how they're effective.

I'm really warming up to this potential signing, he certainly has certain attributes that he'll need to work on, but he will certainly improve our squad from what I've seen.
His style is different but he's another player who like Rashford, pops up in moments. I just don't know how sustainable it is but I suppose I'm ignoring the fact that Bruno, Eriksen are there to provide the "technical" support.

Theres likely a lot of scenarios that Ten Hag can train Gakpo on, so I will definitely back his methods. I just have some concerns.
 
I'm surprised people think he's like Rashford, I think they couldn't be more opposite - same position, sure, but completely different styles in how they're effective.

I'm really warming up to this potential signing, he certainly has certain attributes that he'll need to work on, but he will certainly improve our squad from what I've seen.
Same here. Rashford is a winger. Good at cutting inside and even though he is a good dribbler, he tends to dribble when in Motion.
Gakpo is more of a positional player. Isn't much of a dribbler like Rashford but more Finding and occupying spaces in attack.
 
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