Cody Gakpo | OFFICIAL: Liverpool player

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Joao Felix would be a much better talent for us to try and unlock. As much as we need two forwards, I don't see it happening unfortunately.
I agree, I haven't seen anything of Gakpo that makes me think he's going to be what we need. He was too easily marked out of the game vs Argentina too, something we can't afford.
 
Can't make up my mind here.

8m + wages for Felix seems like the better deal. And we can go for either Gakpo or one of the other CFs in the summer.

On the other hand, if Ten Hag is dead certain about him then it makes sense to bring him in right away. Total trust in him right now.
 
Fundamentally we don't need him to be a technical colossus for us. What we need is for him to be the perfect system player for ten Hag. That's all. It's about functionality, afterall. Erik certainly knows how he fits into his plans and I'm sure he isn't ignorant of any relative deficiencies. Ultimately it's a question of how pragmatic a player he is for the way ten Hag wants to play. Yes he plays off the sides like various other players we have, but he seems to be a lot more clinical and consistent in front of goal than them too. If he's got the work ethic to press (where often Martial and Rashford have struggled in) and add some quality in front of goal, then that's an improvement from a system perspective.

Yep, I pretty much wrote the same maybe a page or two ago but no where near as eloquently as you have. Gakpo fits into Ten Hag ball and that’s precisely the approach we need to be taking when approaching transfers. This fella seems to be such a systems player, more so than an individual maverick. A bit like Micky Targaryen or hell, DVB. In the right system, I’m confident Gakpo will add a lot of value.
 
I think so but it is a shame as I think he’d of been top for us you know

Would have been cheaper and premier league proven compared to the likes of Osimhen and Ramos.

If we sign a number 9 in the summer can only seeing it being one of those 2 now. A huge fee and a big gamble.
 
Unlike many experts in here I choose to believe in Erik that a 193cm pressing machine with mean finishing can become a top class striker.

I think the only thing holding this deal up is the fact that PSV wants up to £40m upfront, and we know the parasites love their installments. Especially during a sale..
 
Unlike many experts in here I choose to believe in Erik that a 193cm pressing machine with mean finishing can become a top class striker.

I think the only thing holding this deal up is the fact that PSV wants up to £40m upfront, and we know the parasites love their installments. Especially during a sale..
Pressing machine?
You clearly don't watch him play.
 
Depends if he uses his physical attributes.

Rashford must be 6ft 2 but he's no physical presence as a No.9.

Has Gakpo the aggression and strength to play with his back to goal?

Not saying he hasn't, I've barely watched him.
He has for the Netherlands on several occasions. He doesn't do it all the time, but when he has, he hasn't looked too uncomfortable.
 
ETH probably being forced to go for any realistically available goalscorer in the winter. After that Elanga can go on loan, but the gap after Ronaldo is still to be fully addressed...
Those 3 goals will be really hard to fill.
 
Unlike many experts in here I choose to believe in Erik that a 193cm pressing machine with mean finishing can become a top class striker.

I think the only thing holding this deal up is the fact that PSV wants up to £40m upfront, and we know the parasites love their installments. Especially during a sale..
The potential sale surely makes absolutely no difference whatsoever to the Glazers. They've never once dug into their pockets for a deal. It will be subject to the same process as every other deal I would imagine.
 
Unlike many experts in here I choose to believe in Erik that a 193cm pressing machine with mean finishing can become a top class striker.

I think the only thing holding this deal up is the fact that PSV wants up to £40m upfront, and we know the parasites love their installments. Especially during a sale..
He’s nowhere near a pressing machine. Terrible take on him as a player.
 
He has for the Netherlands on several occasions. He doesn't do it all the time, but when he has, he hasn't looked too uncomfortable.

Well let's hope so if he does come. Be nicer if it was based on more than several occasions though.

I think a few years ago, if a forward was 6ft 4, they were pretty much guaranteed to be a physical handful for defenders.

Today its not really the case. Plenty of big guys who aren't interested is using their size.
 
He’s nowhere near a pressing machine. Terrible take on him as a player.
But pressing is something you do. It can be taught, learnt and applied. And he's young enough to assimilate it.

We don't necessarily need world class players in all positions, we need the players that the coach see as the targets that will interpret his way of playing.

This should be not a surprise to anyone who watches the PL or city as it's pretty evident that all the KDB, Días, Rodri, B Silva, Gundogan etc etc... all go below 1 or 2 levels when their system changes as in the NT.
 
He's replacing Cristiano isn't he, i think he might be great at sitting on the bench actually
 
Goals are more important than profile right now.
Which is probably one of the reasons he’s so high up the list. Like Fernandes, he seems one of those players who may frustrate or have some visible flaws to his game, but the numbers are there to compensate.

Not quite my type of player, and I agree with the “right now” point in the sense that ideally at some point (in the not so near future, I’d hope) we get the correct profiles and sort out the squad balance.
 
Its almost consensus that Gakpo isn't what we need.

I think if Cody works out, it will only illustrate how little the fans actually know about scouting, putting together and then managing a team.
 
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I think if Cody works out, it will only illustrate how little the fans actually know about scouting, putting together and then managing a team.

Its almost consensus that Gakpo isn't what we need. But if it works out, it only shows how little we fans know about building and managing a team.
And if he doesn't work out, will it mean we're all geniuses?
 
I am not sure what to make of Gakpo.
I just think to play in a forward role in the Premier League you have to be explosive and technically good and we know the price is going to be 50mil and I just think he would struggle.
 
Goals are more important than profile right now.

Moussa Dembele has scored 2 goals this season. Cunha has scored 0. Felix has scored 3.

Toney, Ramos, Osimhen are the ones we'll have to decide on for the summer. Probably too difficult to pull off a deal for any of them in January.

We buy Kane in the Summer. That’s the only signing that makes sense for us in my view. Spurs will have to sell this summer or lose him for free.

That fits with us buying Gakpo who is available now and just gives us general additional cover across the front line.
 
Its almost consensus that Gakpo isn't what we need.

I think if Cody works out, it will only illustrate how little the fans actually know about scouting, putting together and then managing a team.

I think it's pretty clear that fans have absolutely no idea when it comes to scouting and managing a team. I don't recall his full tag, but it's like that LuckyScout fella says: "just buy this player for right wing and that player for centre midfield and we magically win the league" as if that's how it works.
Reality is that no one knows how Gakpo will work out. He might be garbage, or he might become world class for us even if he's not recognised as a world class talent. I trust Ten Hag, however, and believe in his abilities to build a great team.
 
Its almost consensus that Gakpo isn't what we need.

I think if Cody works out, it will only illustrate how little the fans actually know about scouting, putting together and then managing a team.
I don't think we need Gakpo to prove that. It's already been proven numerous times that fans know feck all about scouting and getting the right players for teams.
 
I think it's pretty clear that fans have absolutely no idea when it comes to scouting and managing a team. I don't recall his full tag, but it's like that LuckyScout fella says: "just buy this player for right wing and that player for centre midfield and we magically win the league" as if that's how it works.
Reality is that no one knows how Gakpo will work out. He might be garbage, or he might become world class for us even if he's not recognised as a world class talent. I trust Ten Hag, however, and believe in his abilities to build a great team.
:lol:

Week 1: Man Utd SHALL BUY Schick!
Week 2: Man Utd SHALL BUY Ramos!
 
I saw an interesting video on him, but I can't remember where, talking about the work he does with a Dutch football advisor. They analyse Gakpo's performance each game, what he did well, and what he should be doing. Someone who actively works on improving themselves in this way is gold dust, and that is why, without outstanding technical ability, he is able to post such good numbers, and improve them year on year. This attitude also makes him a great role model for younger players. After seeing the links and the numbers I got excited, but watching him play I was also not blown away. His attitude to improving his football brain is what really impresses me. I doubt there are many players who are so dedicated to this side of the game.
Sorry, was an article not a video that changed my view of Gakpo, here is the link:
https://www.skysports.com/football/...mproved-thanks-to-individual-tactics-coaching
 
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We buy Kane in the Summer. That’s the only signing that makes sense for us in my view. Spurs will have to sell this summer or lose him for free.

That fits with us buying Gakpo who is available now and just gives us general additional cover across the front line.
Kane is the "only" signing that makes sense? Really?

A bloke approaching 30 that would cost a kings ransom in transfer fees, wages etc that's never actually delivered on winning anything despite having opportunities and seems to shirk the big moments?

It doesn't strike me as the only one out there that makes sense, far from it. He's a very good striker, probably world class but he also seems to have this habit of playing in fairly tumescent sides, and I'm wondering if that's coincidence. I'm thinking there are signings that make way more sense as a package.
 
He's replacing Cristiano isn't he, i think he might be great at sitting on the bench actually

Though this is still the likeliest outcome.

United would be building a group of good but not great attackers and you don’t break back into the top 3-4 clubs in Europe with that.
 
This is the first post in this entire thread with a genuine reason to buy him.

He knows the back of the goal and wants to improve.
When you watch him in this perspective, it starts making sense why he has been able to improve his numbers (goals & assists) year on year. His technical ability isn't outstanding, but he thinks about where to stand, when to run, etc., and although he will find the Premier League will be a step up, I think he has the mentality, and the physicality, to cope, and to continue to improve. He's like the antithesis of the lost generation of Pogba, Lingard and Ravel Morrison, and that is why ETH wants him. All the signings that ETH has made so far have got the right attitude, and he even said that he looks at the mentality as well as the pure footballing ability before signing a player. I think Gakpo will make a great role model for the Garnachos and Charlie Mcneills of this world.
 
Unlike many experts in here I choose to believe in Erik that a 193cm pressing machine with mean finishing can become a top class striker.

I think the only thing holding this deal up is the fact that PSV wants up to £40m upfront, and we know the parasites love their installments. Especially during a sale..
He's not that tall.
 
I love how despite us having a GD of zero, some of our fans turn their noses up to attacking players. Never change cafe, never change
 
I love how despite us having a GD of zero, some of our fans turn their noses up to attacking players. Never change cafe, never change
he’s not 70m+ or from a fancy country
 
Its almost consensus that Gakpo isn't what we need.

I think if Cody works out, it will only illustrate how little the fans actually know about scouting, putting together and then managing a team.
Think it's already obvious that the casual football fan has no idea about scouting and whether a player will be a good signing or not, it's why I don't give a shit what anyone on here says about him. If Ten Hag believes he's the right player to improve us then he's got my full support
 
Think it's already obvious that the casual football fan has no idea about scouting and whether a player will be a good signing or not, it's why I don't give a shit what anyone on here says about him. If Ten Hag believes he's the right player to improve us then he's got my full support

100%
 
Can't believe how many know-it-alls think they know better than Erik. Your armchairs must be very supportive.

He's 23, versatile, nimble, hard-working. He can be taught anything by our Dutch genius, shame on you for doubting him.

Yeah because managers never make bad signings. I think you should check out what the likes of Labyad, Promes, Klaiber , Pirie, Lisandro Magallan, Marin and Kristensen are doing with their careers right now since they were all ETH signings
 
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