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That's not throwing money when you start from the bottom due to the previous owners. And you didn't share a single story here. That money was well spent, it's not throwing money.
Your point is valid for 2017-2021, Antero Henrique and then Leonardo tried to fix issues that they created by throwing money around stupidily, that's a very valid point but it's not what happened earlier, earlier they needed heavy investments in the squad and did it effectively with players that they purchased for less than they were actually worth.
And they are allegedly going to back to pre 2017 but we will see about that.
The thread is being derailed with PSG talk somewhat 
PSG has a net spend of ~200 million euros in the last 4 seasons. We spent more than that in the summer
You thought that Jose and LVG were bad moves when we hired them? As i recall for majority of fans thought back then thst they were right choice at that time.
https://theathletic.com/4080181/2023/01/11/psg-wage-bill-record/?amp=1
“Sustainable” my arse. They play in ligue 1 for fecks sake.
oh look, we got rid of some players, and gave all their wages +45% more to Messi, Ramos and Mbappe
More sustainable
Referenced their new improved PSG spending further down the post.
They went from 100m on transfers to 100m per player on wages
#sustained
Because all Qatari owners are the same, you know. All ME owners are the same. If one of potential owners is American then all Americans would be the same.The thread is being derailed with PSG talk somewhat
When next Brit will be interested in buying some PL club, he will be compared with sir Jim.
The thread is being derailed with PSG talk somewhat
In the context of how they have been run under Qatari ownership rather than anyone actually wanting to talk about PSG for the sake of it.
City's ME owners are very, very different.
This has been mentioned by several posters throughout this thread.
If that's too much then how can you use City as a good example? They were spending +100m and even +200m. PSG spent +100m and built a core that lasted 6-7 years unlike City who actually wasted hundreds of millions during the first years until they turned things around, around 2011.
That's just not true is it? Mbappe and Messi (possibly Neymar) earn massive amounts for differing reasons but the rest are probably on par with what you would expect at that level of football.Referenced their new improved PSG spending further down the post.
They went from 100m on transfers to 100m per player on wages
#sustained
What is this talk about PSG? Are you going to compare American owners for FSG, Glazers and Boehly?
I do not know if it is blatant ignorance or xenophobia.
PSG and Man Utd will have different owners, and will make different decisions. Do you really think the Emir of Qatar will have a day on transfers of the two clubs? Like he doesn’t have more important things to worry about.
I do not know if it is blatant ignorance or xenophobia.
PSG and Man Utd will have different owners, and will make different decisions. Do you really think the Emir of Qatar will have a day on transfers of the two clubs? Like he doesn’t have more important things to worry about.
No because the Qatar bid is pretty much a state bid which is the exact same ownership as PSG.
I am still waiting on answer. How exactly they failed in PSG comparing where PSG was before them and where PSG is now.
As i said; giving big power to star players is the one thing which is wrong. Except that?
Many pages back I did reference Citys early days. It wasn't until they decided to copy Barcelona that things came together but they had the good sense to realise that throwing money didn't work.
United are proof of this.
PSG are proof of this.
City were proof of this.
City learned. There's no real evidence PSG have. Being in Ligue 1 covers them in that they don't even need to be running at 60% to win the league more often than not. PSG in the Premier League, run as they have been in France would have been disastrous.
Again, as I believe you are French from seeing you post on French clubs, do you think anyone looks at PSG and thinks that's the model club? Do any French clubs even look at PSG and think that's the club to follow?
Yes, some people here think that things work like that. Emir is in chargevof every investment and all his employees think the same and do the same.
I know;
QATARI ARE THE BORG! With Emir Al Thani being Borg Queen.
Why wouldn’t they run the club in the same way? Again, nobody (even the Qataris) are going to invest 6 billion and not expect the club to run efficiently and without a ROI.
Again generalisation. UAE owners have City. They do good job there. So ALL owners from UAE would be like Mansour. If UAE buy another club, they would kick ass there too.
And the point is that PSG first windows were successes unlike City's, their strategy worked, they improved the club massively.
The first three years brought, Matuidi, Ibrahimovic, Maxwell, Verratti, Thiago Silva, Thiago Motta, Marquinhos, Cavani among others. Unlike City, PSG actually had a successful strategy when QSI purchased the club and during the first years. Things went sideway later, around 2017, when they had to replace these players and someone else, Antero Henrique, was in charge.
The issue here is that you seem to not accept the idea that PSG isn't defined by a singular strategy, in reality the strategy that City followed post 2011 is closer to the strategy that PSG followed from day one. The issue for PSG is that they went away from it during summer 2017 when they spent 200m on Neymar instead of spreading their expenses on a mix of veteran and young players.
So would club use PSG as a model? The 2012-2016 version? absolutely because that's the strategy followed by most top clubs, that's how Real Madrid, prime Juventus, Bayern, United or AC Milan used to operate. While the post 2017 version is how the likes of Inter or Barcelona operates and that's stupid.
Imagine being so rich that no one will tell you to shave off that greasy ginger wispy hair at the back of your hair.
If it's a state bid then the eventual owners would be the same although with different people in key roles, so it's reasonable to use how they've run one club to assess how they might run the other. Same with people using Nice and Lausanne to judge potential INEOS ownership.
Yes, you are right. We should.
Sheikh Jassim has said "The vision of the bid is for Manchester United Football Club to be renowned for footballing excellence, and regarded as the greatest football club in the world.”
INEOS have said "We are ambitious and highly competitive and would want to invest in Manchester United to make them the number one club in the world once again.“ There is not much difference there, and I think both bidders would be fantastic owners for this football club. I don’t doubt anything about either bid in regard to intentions for the club.
Qatar bought PSG for different reasons and had different motivations for buying them.
At this point, I'm looking for DiCaprio and his team to do some 'Inception' style planting into Avi Glazer mind!
This thread is progressing incredibly fast with absolutely nothing added while some posters are doing a 12 hour shift daily on here. Time to reassess life goals.
It depends on what you mean by run but there are two important factors. If QSI are the actual owner than the club is an investment and in that case the 6bn invested will see PSG and Manchester United treated completely differently since the initial investments aren't remotely close.
Now most importantly when it comes to "run" PSG, the main constant has been that the DOF is in charge of the football matters and the only one in charge, the COO is the one in charge of the administrative side and the only in charge. So PSG dealings were very different depending on who the DOFs were.
Different people in key roles. Different approach. As i said; they are not bloody Borg.
And it is completely different investment. Man Utd is one thing, PSG another, Nice is another, Newcastle is another etc..
Psg was biggish club from 5th or 6th European league. Without world class players, reputation, manager, European results.
Man Utd is Man Utd. One of only 7 or 8 giant clubs in the world where everything is (more or less) set for biggest things.
On a sidenote for people that have an issue with the way PSG may have been managed. If INEOS purchases United, I'm pretty sure that the club will be led directly or indirectly by Jean-Claude Blanc who is joining Ineos this summer.
Looks like a bed pan. That’s awful!Is this the new Bernabeu with old Trafford stuck inside?
That would almost make up for the years of suffering with us. Almost.Imagine the Glazers sell United for 6b and buy Liverpool for 3b
Judging by the compositions of the two delegates that had meetings with the United folks last week, you can tell who were interested in this.
Does anyone know what happens next?
We know that the Qatari and Ineos bids will both be rejected. What then?
We know that the Qatari and Ineos bids will both be rejected. What then?
Elliot accepted, club folds, we all support City
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