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sglowrider said:
We can get our shit together but it may not results in a consistent flow of silverware. The top-end of league will become even more competitive in the next few years.
We can only hope that we are competing for titles and silverware consistently. So I doubt if we can get like £100mill from Adidas.
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We get £75m a year already. Even if it takes a while to get the silverware flowing in - we don't have to tie ourselves down to 10 year contracts now, with the backing of a rich owner. We can sign a 3 year deal, backing ourselves to being in a position to then maximise it at the next renewal.

The reason we've been tied down in a lot of these long term deals that start to become uncompetitive towards the end of their terms, is due to the Glazers.
 
lsd said:
Do we even know if Shiekh Jassim actually exists? though does it really matter as it's certainly not him buying the club of he does exist
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He exists in the hearts of many a United fan on here if that counts.
 
Tiber said:
Glazers must have an incredibly tight NDA in place. Would have expected at least a formal interview with the BBC or Times by this stage from both the Qatar and Goldman Sachs bids.
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You mean the Bank of America bid by that logic.
 
Skills said:
The timing for Qatar is perfect especially with the TeamViewer situation.

We could get a £150m a year contract with Qatar Airways or something, and that'll ease the FFP trouble we're in the near future. If we get our shit together in the next 2 seasons, the Adidas deal is up for renewal as well and that could also legitimately break £100m a season.
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Are you seriously rubbing your hands together at the prospect that we could essentially cheat FFP? Something that we've spent the last decade or so moaning about City for?
 
Bert_ said:
You mean the Bank of America bid by that logic.
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If Qatar are funding the bid via a massive loan from Bank of America then it absolutely would be fair, but all I have read is that they are providing advice on the bid process?
 
Tiber said:
VisitQatar.com could be looking a new team to sponsor :drool:
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I am looking forward at owners who actually give rather then take out of the club. We haven't had one of those for decades
 
Pickle85 said:
Are you seriously rubbing your hands together at the prospect that we could essentially cheat FFP? Something that we've spent the last decade or so moaning about City for?
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Sure why not. Manchester United being the most commercially attractive club in the world isn't a new idea anyway - we've been that for decades. We've just stagnated cause of shit management.
 
Tiber said:
If Qatar are funding the bid via a massive loan from Bank of America then it absolutely would be fair, but all I have read is that they are providing advice on the bid process?
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They might be considering the cut-out sheikh is apparently worth less than 1/3 of the value of his bid. No one brings in senior bank executives to give you advise on how to spend your own money.
 
So was this unnamed 3rd bidder a load of bollocks then?

Seems like it’s between the Qatari’s or SJR.
 
Skills said:
Sure why not. Manchester United being the most commercially attractive club in the world isn't a new idea anyway - we've been that for decades. We've just stagnated cause of shit management.
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The key word being cheat FFP. You're ok with that?
 
Pickle85 said:
The key word being cheat FFP. You're ok with that?
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Sure. Personally have no problem with it.

I've always said FFP missed the point anyway. It should've been there to protect clubs from reckless owners (see Blackburn, QPR and Co) rather than rich owners who are putting money into football.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Simple question

Does anyone here think, against the consensus, that INEOS could yet outbid Sheikh Jassim's team?
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Yes, even if it is a Qatar state backed bid despite what many assume they won't want to pay crazy over the top money, with the amount of investments they make and the vast wealth everyone knows they possess to they have to be seen as tough negotiators. They won't want to lose face and be seen as amateurs who over pay for an asset.

On the other hand this looks like a hobby project for Ratcliffe to build a bit of a legacy. And however unlikely it might seem, Jimbo could be willing to pay way above the odds for United. He's no spring chicken so this will be his last chance to own the club he claims to support. And probably even his last chance to buy any top PL club.
 
Pickle85 said:
In what world is £150 million per season 'market value'?
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I said if, you guys can’t separate the cheating aspect which city are guilty of and doing things legitimate with wealthy owners as you have the global brand, revenue and reach already.
 
Bert_ said:
Juventus are corrupt as feck as we know. PSG are a front.

Let's not be like them.
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What's wrong in having owners who actually put money into the club rather then simply leeching? They claim to be supporters so what is wrong in acting like ones for a change?
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Looks that way but this 3rd bidder has been very secretive from the get go so they could’ve potentially been at OT as well and just don’t want it publicised.
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Never mind 3rd bidder. There is supposed to be 4 groups involved. What a scene it would cause if neither Qatar or INEOS are the preferred bidder!!
 
Bosws87 said:
I said if, you guys can’t separate the cheating aspect which city are guilty of and doing things legitimate with wealthy owners as you have the global brand, revenue and reach already.
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So based on this you're differentiating the hypothetical scenario of Qatar Airways helping us to fiddle ffp from City's similarly dodgy sponsorship deals by the fact that we are a bigger club so it looks more believable?
 
Bert_ said:
They might be considering the cut-out sheikh is apparently worth less than 1/3 of the value of his bid. No one brings in senior bank executives to give you advise on how to spend your own money.
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Various UK sources struggle to agree on whether or not Ratcliffe is the UKs richest man and estimations of his net worth vary. If we can't pin down UK billionaires, god knows how much cash Jassim's dad stashed away when he was running Qatar and selling off airlines.

Assuming of course that we chartable enough to agree that Jassim isn't just a figurehead for a state bid. Which he almost certainly is.
 
devilish said:
What's wrong in having owners who actually put money into the club rather then simply leeching? They claim to be supporters so what is wrong in acting like ones for a change?
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Because they aren't supporters. They are using supporters emotions to launder their ill gotten gains into "legitimate" investments and political influence.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Looks that way but this 3rd bidder has been very secretive from the get go so they could’ve potentially been at OT as well and just don’t want it publicised.
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the BBC takeover podcast reported that visitors had been in and out of United offices all week and that only the Ratcliffe and Qatar bids were high profile. The Hedge Funds have no interest in being photographed buying a mug from the megastore
 
Tiber said:
Various UK sources struggle to agree on whether or not Ratcliffe is the UKs richest man and estimations of his net worth vary. If we can't pin down UK billionaires, god knows how much cash Jassim's dad stashed away when he was running Qatar and selling off airlines.

Assuming of course that we chartable enough to agree that Jassim isn't just a figurehead for a state bid. Which he almost certainly is.
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At least they can all agree he actual exists
 
Bert_ said:
Because they aren't supporters. They are using supporters emotions to launder their ill gotten gains into "legitimate" investments and political influence.
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In that case they might do their part into such 'unholy' arrangement by putting their own money were their mouth is for once
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
So was this unnamed 3rd bidder a load of bollocks then?

Seems like it’s between the Qatari’s or SJR.
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There are reportedly four bidders interested in a full buyout of the Glazers. Only Ineos and Qatar have chosen to publicise their bids. We don't know who the other two are.
 
Bert_ said:
Because they aren't supporters. They are using supporters emotions to launder their ill gotten gains into "legitimate" investments and political influence.
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Sounds like almost every owner of every club.
Parish at Palace perhaps the exception?
 
devilish said:
What's wrong in having owners who actually put money into the club rather then simply leeching? They claim to be supporters so what is wrong in acting like ones for a change?
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What is wrong with accepting (vast amounts of) money without asking questions?
 
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