Ok. Mine was more of a general point though because I’ve seen repeated references to it from the pro-Qatar lobby. It seemed to pop up as some sort of rebuke to the moral baggage others flagged up with the Qatar bid, as if it cancelled it out in some way…all the while forgetting where Qatar derives almost all of its wealth from.
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Yes, but profit is (sell price - avg buying price)*quantity, and they increased their quantity in buying more. Put simply, they lost money on their marginal decision to increase because they buyout was executed at a lower price than the stock ever traded at.
Tbf qatar produce very little apart from gas and oil. They are trying to diversify their economy but that's require time. Its also a hot country. As a person who lived in a cold country and a hot country I can assure you that its easier to live without a heater them without an AC
Regarding their pollution that's mostly to Dust storms and the energy sector, the same energy sector so many countries rely upon.
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I would be extremely surprised if Sheikh Jassim and his NTF walks away empty handed from this business opportunity. The potential is there for all to see if they do it the right way.
With QIB behind them they can offer both co investors and business partners a favorable financial packet together with the opportunity to be part of an exiting project.
We actually have a reasonable good road map by looking at how Abu Dhabi and Dubai has developed their business portfolio.
From my perspective there's only one winner in this bidding process. When the Glazers was visiting Qatar last year it gave us a hint what was going on and from there more and more pieces is fitting in to each other to make this the most likely outcome.
I know this isn’t a popular view for many of you but SJR has never since he made his first public bid acted serious in his interest. Everything that has come out from his camp has been underwhelming and cloudy. Not exactly what you expect from a new potential owner.
Time will tell but right now it looks like a one horse race judging from all information available.
With QIB behind them they can offer both co investors and business partners a favorable financial packet together with the opportunity to be part of an exiting project.
We actually have a reasonable good road map by looking at how Abu Dhabi and Dubai has developed their business portfolio.
From my perspective there's only one winner in this bidding process. When the Glazers was visiting Qatar last year it gave us a hint what was going on and from there more and more pieces is fitting in to each other to make this the most likely outcome.
I know this isn’t a popular view for many of you but SJR has never since he made his first public bid acted serious in his interest. Everything that has come out from his camp has been underwhelming and cloudy. Not exactly what you expect from a new potential owner.
Time will tell but right now it looks like a one horse race judging from all information available.
They would still lose more money.
Selective amnesia’s afflicting a number of people on the thread.
I agree with most of what you said so I'll focus on the part which I don't. I think that SJR is serious with the bid. The guy has put his face to it and that after failing from buying Chelsea. That's quite significant as people in his position hate losing face
@Kinsella you made a very valid point about pollution
Ineos don’t own a football club there, but hey, don’t let that stop you
One thing I will ask you though @devilish, considering you bang pn about ”bike guy” every single day.
Who do you feel would be more suited to the role of INEOS sports sporting director? A role that incorporates cycling, F1, Sailing, Rugby, Football & Running? Would a football guy somehow be better suited
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This was reported last week, including the day the offer would come in. Sky have offered nothing new through this entire process despite Kaveh's constant 'updates'
(we really need a thumbs up emoji) Thumbs up!
We got a song for the Sheikh?
Entitled scion, you mean?Something else he is not doing himself personally…… master of delegation this guy!
You say that but I read that they signed Ramsey on something like 160k a week
What's an NTF?
Also, how do we have any form of "roadmap"? I guess you're hoping we copy City. Dubai have done feck all in relation to football.
Also again, what has anything coming out of "Radcliffe's camp" got to do with anything? They are negotiating a deal with the Glazer family. Either party could hold a press conference and take a piss on the pitch at Old Trafford whilst singing you'll never walk alone. It wouldn't make one bit of difference to the Glazers. They'll take the highest bid.
Maybe he really is a United fan!
Ah god that sounds amazing doesn’t it?! A end to the waste and incompetence!
Presumably he means nine two foundations.
The day these rats leave the club should be made a club holiday.
But hey, it’s a free transfer
They also signed Kasper Schmeichel who clearly doesn’t fancy it in the French Riviera.
Absolutely!
He actually does know stuff. He was well in the loop during the Chelsea sale. I think Sky reported Boehly has emerged as the preferred candidate weeks before it was confirmed.
They haven't brought us yet...oh.
Fully expect Sheikh Jassim to be the new owner by this time next month, just a matter of dotting the I's and crossing the T's, this is absolutely done and dusted.
fecks sake. It's already got an acronym! It will disappear soon though either way. Either the Qatar rulers buy us and the front evaporates or they don't and the front evaporates.
You're arguing semantics. 'Pro Qatari bid' is the same level of cringe when there is so little information about the specifics of either bid or how the club will be run with an either potential owner. Sure, you can favor the bid, but to shill and goad in this thread just because others a) have ethical or sporting reasons against state ownership or b) question the reasons for wanting Qatari ownership is goofball behavior. Your last sentence is an excellent example of what I mean. Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
I honestly don't want to engage with you about this anymore, given your responses in this thread. We can agree to disagree.
This is surprising. I had no idea. I assumed you’d misspelled China but I checked it out and you are of course correct.
Not going to judge the bid against it because it’s irrelevant, but eye raising all the same.
Qatar are very likely to win. Wipe the debt off, invest in the infrastructure and make sure that we employ the best-in-class staff. United will generate hell lot of money which the club wil be able to use for themselves. The value of the club will grow significantly, so I won't be surprised to see us topping the Deloitte list in 2-3 years.
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This
That's the real dream
Maybe he really is a United fan!
He can relate better with Avram and pony-tail glazer.
Personally I’d rather win football trophies, but each to their own I guess!!
Only in Qatar. It's a Tuesday in INEOSland
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