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Elliot or Qatar lads?
Elliot.I think even the staunchest haters of the Qatari bid are going to be sitting this one out.
Elliot or Qatar lads?
Elliot.I think even the staunchest haters of the Qatari bid are going to be sitting this one out.
The fact that Elliot were at the game last night is pretty brazen , they haven’t spent a lot of time saying this should be a private process and public statements etc are frowned upon then you have one group turning up to a game. That has me worried and a bit confused.
Does it mean now Jassim can turn up at any game he wants or SJR? V strange.
That would be an absolutely devastating nightmare.
They must be up there with their bid. Glazers favoured outcome is investment while still keeping the club.
Might as well fold the clubElliot.
Most people who are against Qatar would be on ideological grounds, so would not take any corporation or investment fund over Qatar.Elliot or Qatar lads?
What’s the point in wanting the worst for your club? For moral superiority?Elliot.
Ethically, the Americans are up there with some of the worst, we just accept it because it's better the devil you know.Most people who are against Qatar would be on ideological grounds, so would not take any corporation or investment fund over Qatar.
The Glazers are letting them into the second round so they can either get a minority sale and keep the club for longer or to force the Qataris to pay more by saying they prefer the minority sale *wink winkWhat’s G Nev on about
He means they don't want to outright buy United, that's not what they do.I don’t get his last point.
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As of June 30, 2022, Elliott manages approximately $55.7 billion in assets. The firm employs a staff of 499 people, including nearly half dedicated to portfolio management and analysis, trading and research, in its Florida headquarters and affiliated offices elsewhere.
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Probably shouldn't be suggesting this as it's the kinda thing that can get the caf in trouble but that is one hilariously poor website, I'll give you that.Just in case anyone feels like going back to the early 90's Elliot website and making your feelings known
He means they don't want to outright buy United, that's not what they do.
The Glazers are letting them into the second round so they can either get a minority sale and keep the club for longer or to force the Qataris to pay more by saying they prefer the minority sale *wink wink
Gary never stops crying.What’s G Nev on about
I think in the case of a minority investment, what the money will be used for will be outlined in the investment terms, not a kind of "just give us a billion and we'll return it x2, trust me bro" approach.I still don’t see how this minority sale works as it would involve the Glazers reinvesting monies in to the club. Something they have never done.
I’m surprised people really see this as likely to happen based on everything we know about them.
That would be an absolutely devastating nightmare.
I quiet like him.
"As well as contributing to private initiatives, Singer also actively seeks to persuade other Republicans to support gay marriage. He has joined other Wall Street executives in support of LGBT equality and stated that same-sex marriage promotes "family stability" and that in a time when "the institution of marriage in America has utterly collapsed," the fact that gay couples want to marry "is kind of a lovely thing and a cool thing and a wonderful thing."
Elliot or Qatar lads?
They might have culture and focus, but do they have Pashun and ‘Eritage?Elliott Management:
What's worse is that it could continue but with more vultures perched on OT for years yet. Imagine how badly they're going to strip assets when there's more investors wanting a kick back?These greedy lizards are a joke, just sell the club up. Sitting there as if they have build this great institution. Horrible watching this unfold.
From what I see I think it’s now offering finance for others to compete a takeover as well as Glazers. There’s absolutely no suggestion, apart from early hysteria that’s been regurgitated, that they’re trying to stay unless I’ve missed something?I still don’t see how this minority sale works as it would involve the Glazers reinvesting monies in to the club. Something they have never done.
I’m surprised people really see this as likely to happen based on everything we know about them.
What's worse is that it could continue but with more vultures perched on OT for years yet. Imagine how badly they're going to strip assets when there's more investors wanting a kick back?
From what I see I think it’s now offering finance for others to compete a takeover as well as Glazers. There’s absolutely no suggestion, apart from early hysteria that’s been regurgitated, that they’re not trying to stay unless I’ve missed something?
Elliot or Qatar lads?
Qatar will still win though. I have thought that from the off.
I think in the case of a minority investment, what the money will be used for will be outlined in the investment terms, not a kind of "just give us a billion and we'll return it x2, trust me bro" approach.
Elliott are offering finance for would-be investors/owners and/or debt financing for the OT/Carrington refurb.
Elliott don't want to own any part of United, but they are happy to secure lending for those that do.
I would say the dynamics are different. Bayern Munich runs a monopoly in Germany. With all the talents in Germany (in addition to a few ones recruited from outside Germany) ,it almost correct to say that, winning two champions league within that specific period should be the minimum. They would only need to concentrate on the UCL without thinking about their league.My point is more that despite not having oil money or other state-backing, they've managed to win two CLs and be runner-up twice since United last won it, proving you don't need Middle Eastern or any other state's money to compete, as some are insisting.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. The idea that they’re there to prop Galzers up if they don’t get what they want is misleading.Elliott are offering finance for would-be investors/owners and/or debt financing for the OT/Carrington refurb.
Elliott don't want to own any part of United, but they are happy to secure lending for those that do.
Would we, though? Qatari ownership would undoubtedly be troubling from a principled standpoint, but the people in the higher rungs of Elliott Management seem like absolute scum too. And this is just scratching the surface...On the other hand we'd retain the moral high ground
Kyle Bass big on Argentina; rips ‘immoral’ competitorsHe also bashed rival hedge funds such as Elliott Management, who have invested in Argentine bonds and held out for full payment on their investments, calling their behavior immoral.
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Forward 2015 - Paul SingerSinger, 71, has been a longtime supporter of hawkish pro-Israel causes and is one of the major funders of the conservative think tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies. During the debate over the Iranian nuclear deal, Singer used his fortune to support opponents of the agreement, including by founding an anti-deal Christian group. Singer also sought to promote Christian support for Israel by signing on to partner with a fundamentalist Christian billionaire to launch a Birthright-like initiative aimed at evangelical students who want to visit Israel.