We've just won a trophy and the share price is still dropping
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We've just won a trophy and the share price is still dropping
the Glazers need to take the hintSame reason as when they said they were confident, I guess. To satisfy fans, and to tell the world 'we're coming'.
Maybe they see the potential of United being much bigger. Take the growth of the MSL:
If it can grow like that in the states, they maybe have ideas of a multi-club organizations or maybe United's global revenue streams are not completely utilised?
It would also drive up the valuation which is dropping as the market doesn't trust that the Glazers will sell. It would be counter-productive, I think.
Besides the bidders all have access to the accounts now so it'll take them a while to analyse those and formalise and real offer.
You can relax and also stop trust your gut feeling because United will be sold before the summer. 100% sure.
In United’s latest annual report 2022 the numbers clearly indicates that the club needs a fresh cash injection to maintain current standard. The Glazers biggest headache is that it’s only one serious bidder who’s willing to pay close to what they want for the club. I fully expect the investors from Qatar to raise their bid a little bit in the next coming weeks and after that it’s only paper work left before the deal is closed.
In a best case scenario we have a new owner somewhere in April/May and when the summer starts the speculation about a new striker/midfielder and new stadium will be the main topic on this board, m
The resemblance between Avram and the guy playing the main character in the SAW movies is shocking
Nah, apparently they along with Uncle Jim have had their knuckles rapped for going public.
Stock's down 12% this morning
And Bellingham and Osimhen are already signed by other clubs.
Because of the increased talk that the Glazer's want to stay (and Avram's Wembley appearance) do we think?
(Be quite funny if behind the scenes it's INEOS/Qatar leaking that the Glazer's might stay in order to tank the value of the club)
I do wonder if the Qatar PR irked the Glazers because Qatar were speaking with a lot of confidence. Glazers probably want more interest to come in from other parties so the bidding pushes the price up. Who knows, who cares…just need to get these leeches out.
6-7bn GBP? Seems to me they are pricing the club out of the market more than anything, so they can say they received no satisfactory offers.
I think you are right that we are effectively now just down to Qatar as the only option and just a case of how much can be squeezed out of them.
I think there was an expectation that pretty much everyone who tried to buy Chelsea would be in he mix plus a fair few others. Reality is the asking price, debt and investment required has narrowed the market to an extent where any kind of bidding war is a non starter.
If the Glazers don’t get a deal done now there’s a good chance the Qatari’s just invest in Liverpool so if they try selling again soon the market will even be even smaller.
Not sure why people are listening to this, it's just Romano's opinion and to further that I don't see why a football journalist would have any links to SJR/ Qatari or familiarity with the financials/ take over proceedings
I'm just happy we have games every three days or so, so I can somewhat forget about this sale.
Hopefully, we get some more concrete news before the international break when a week will really feel like a year in this super-intense season.
Hopefully, we get some more concrete news before the international break when a week will really feel like a year in this super-intense season.
If they were smart they would develop a Manchester United Netflix show similar to F1 Drive to Survive and promote the crap out of it in the US. It did wonders for F1 in the US, and that's not something I ever expected. Luckily I don't think they are smart enough to do it.
Romano isn't the transfer sleuth he used to be. His role now is releasing information clubs want him to release.
That number has been quoted by more than just Romano.
Yes - you have to weigh down the probability that Glazers stay (share price at $14-15) vs. the probability that they get top dollar for the club (share price at $25-$30)
Why would the Glazers pay the Raine group to conduct this process to eventually decide to price everyone out?
Those involved in the bidding will know exactly what numbers are on the table from the start and would not have made an offer if there was no desire to be successful. If the price was too high no bids would have been made full stop. Much like what’s happened to Liverpool.
I swear some of you just don’t think about these things logically.
Those involved in the bidding will know exactly what numbers are on the table from the start and would not have made an offer if there was no desire to be successful. If the price was too high no bids would have been made full stop. Much like what’s happened to Liverpool.
I swear some of you just don’t think about these things logically.
I think they might hold out for partial investment, similar to how Liverpool's owners are.
I admire your optimism! Hopefully you are right.
That’s all that can be hoped for from a journalist. How else are they going to get information about confidential agreements and discussions?
Glazers are staying. Seems that they have communicated as much to ETH.
I'm not knocking him at all, I'm a fan of Romano. Just pointing out how his role has evolved, to the people who think he still just spreads rumors on twitter.
This. I ignore anything that comes from him.
Only a certain journalists are worth listening to in regards to the sale, such as Keegan (from Qatar news) and Matt Dickinson (from SJR news).
How does that work?
ETH said he (Avram) is really happy as our owner, and made his intentions clear. Why else would ETH make such a statement?
Sweet! This is how we should treat these bastards. We need more protests to get these greedy bastards sell asap and get the feck out of the club. They have already stole 1.6B and they should just take the 4.5B bid and completely disappear from the club.
Nonsense. People are getting very confused by, (or being deliberately obtuse) regarding the word "intentions". Ten Hag was referring to Avram's appearance yesterday as showing his intentions (i.e the current owner giving a shit about the club).
These glazers are some of the greediest most despicable owners we've seen in sports.
Not happy with 4.5b-5b, they are asking for even more to sell the club. We all know they want out as they can't afford to keep it running in this economic environment.
Yet they are haggling for more money despite making more than 10x off their initial investment by their father. Its just disgusting.
Not happy with 4.5b-5b, they are asking for even more to sell the club. We all know they want out as they can't afford to keep it running in this economic environment.
Yet they are haggling for more money despite making more than 10x off their initial investment by their father. Its just disgusting.
Think it's safe to say the Raine group would have sought assurances of the seriousness of the sale is my only saving hope here as they work off commission of sale.
Plenty of smoke and mirrors going on at the moment, they will be gone by June, no super league, and a seething fan base, in what kind of world does one stay on at a business wondering where the next dividend is coming from? they will absolutely cash out, and probably for a record sale for a sports club.
I’ve yet to see anyone come up with how a sensible or viable explanation for how partial investment would work.
There’s no way the Glazers are selling shares and putting the money back in the club. If they kept the money for themselves the club has all the same problems so still needs investment. Also hard to see what any investor gets in that scenario as well as they’ve just bought into all the problems.
Raine will be telling them their unhinged valuation is irrelevant. The club is worth what the highest bidder is willing to pay, no less and no more. In this case that's probably Qatar at 5 billion. The real danger is that if they insist on embarrassing the Qataris by playing silly buggers and making them look too poor to buy then that may blow it up the deal completely.
No he didn't. You may want to listen to the Talk of the Devils podcast on The Athletic. Laurie clarifies what was exactly said.
Have you exactly thought about how any external investments would work?
EXACTLY!
Do people think the Glazers are going to change an 18 years habit of putting £0 into the club, and invest the potential £1b - £2b required back into the club?
I really wish people would think logically about what they are saying.
Try 60x to 70x.
I'm expecting some sort of significant update by the end of this week.
Based on pretty much nothing, mind
Based on pretty much nothing, mind
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