devilish
Juventus fan who used to support United
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Qatar vs Abu Dhabi vs Saudi.
The SAQ race.Qatar vs Abu Dhabi vs Saudi.
Ratcliffe was caught out claiming the owners didn't want to sell at a time the owners were very much moving towards wanting to sell.
It was an incredibly short window between the "Guys I wanted to buy you, but the Glazers simply aren't interested in selling" and the Glazers putting up the 'For Sale' sign. I still find it amazing that this alone - quite apart from anything else, didn't make Ratcliffe's whole involvement a bit of a joke.
Only a few days ago there was a story outliing how senior figures doubted whether Ratcliffe's interested is at all serious. Would they have that impression if just a few short months ago, as he claimed, he approached them with a genuine (yet apparently, rebutted) enquiry to buy the club?
Months of literally nothing but convincing fans through the media he's really interested with literally nothing to back it up. His name being mentioned at all now is an embarrassing testament to our ability to believe literally any old shit if we want it to be true.
Though i see slight backtracking. Latest leak he was not willing to go above $4bn? Of course, and that'll be reason why he doesn't buy us. Not that his whole interested has been entirely fictitious from the start. His after-deadline bid for Chelsea too. Because when you get together billions in finance to make a bid is definitely plausible you accidentally overlook the deadline.
Just stop with this fecking clown already
The SAQ race.
User error. I meant to reply to someone who responded to me. 19 years posting here hasn't taught me much, clearly.Do you realize you are replying to your own post and agreeing with yourself?
Do you realize you are replying to your own post and agreeing with yourself?
Hopefully the investment means much-needed money being ploughed into our crumbling infrastructure, on top of new signings.
Yes and infrastructure projects are great during a recession. Creates much-needed jobs for the local community
If I remember correctly SJR released this comment in Oct about a meeting he held with the Glazers over summer. Therefore it was months not weeksFor the record Ratcliffe told the press he had been categorically told by the Glazers that the club wasn't for sale in October. In November the club had released a statement confirming they were considering a sale.
Even giving an extremely generous benefit of the doubt there, why wouldn't the club immediately seek to open discussions on this with the only person established as a confirmed person that had interest just a few short weeks before?
Still I'll stop. I'm sure Sir Jim will confirm his "interest" again in the coming days.
Hopefully the investment means much-needed money being ploughed into our crumbling infrastructure, on top of new signings.
Yes and infrastructure projects are great during a recession. Creates much-needed jobs for the local community
Also, it's not like there's no precedent for this with the Red Bull clubs, who faced each other in the EL in 2018, iirc. Apparently, all it took was being able to satisfactorily show UEFA that both teams are separate entities.I may have missed this but why are Qatar constantly being quizzed about their ownership in terms of having 2 (big) clubs when Jim Ratcliffe would also own Nice if he bought us?
Even if Nice aren't likely to always be in the same competitions, it still is a strong chance. It's not like his other team are in the third tier of the Gibraltar football pyramid
Also, it's not like there's no precedent for this with the Red Bull clubs, who faced each other in the EL in 2018, iirc. Apparently, all it took was being able to satisfactorily show UEFA that both teams are separate entities.
Well, insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different resultAt least he is consistent
Judging by redcafe and twitter, sadly, I'm fairly certain that the majority of fans will ignore and forgive everything in the name of shiny new transfers and trophies.That guy asks why United fans always have liked to think of their club as an exemplar, as somehow “more cherished and noble than any other”? Maybe the answer will come if we are bought by Qatar. Will the fans cheer on if we cheat the FFP rules, or request that things are done properly? The next time there are some incident with human rights, will the fans protest or let it slide?
Honestly, if it comes to Qatar buying this club, I am fairly certain that the club, we, are well equipped to handle that too. We are not Man City or PSG or Chelsea.
When will the penny drop that fans of every club contain exactly the same types of people. There's not a single fan base that is made of of morally just, model citizens, and there's no fan base made up of just dick heads. You may perceive it differently based on how you view online forums, but frankly online forums make up a tiny percent of an entire fan base and are mostly representative of the admins who set the rules.That guy asks why United fans always have liked to think of their club as an exemplar, as somehow “more cherished and noble than any other”? Maybe the answer will come if we are bought by Qatar. Will the fans cheer on if we cheat the FFP rules, or request that things are done properly? The next time there are some incident with human rights, will the fans protest or let it slide?
Honestly, if it comes to Qatar buying this club, I am fairly certain that the club, we, are well equipped to handle that too. We are not Man City or PSG or Chelsea.
Fans are happy to take Qatar money but will tar the same brush for every American. While also at the same time get jealous of Chelsea's spending. Please make it make sense!!That last one sent cold chills down my spine. Please, no. No more. Nightmare scenario.
That guy asks why United fans always have liked to think of their club as an exemplar, as somehow “more cherished and noble than any other”? Maybe the answer will come if we are bought by Qatar. Will the fans cheer on if we cheat the FFP rules, or request that things are done properly? The next time there are some incident with human rights, will the fans protest or let it slide?
Honestly, if it comes to Qatar buying this club, I am fairly certain that the club, we, are well equipped to handle that too. We are not Man City or PSG or Chelsea.
Sky wanted to take us over, promised us the worlds best players and we took to the streets to protest. We have protested the Glazers every step of the way even under SAF and the success he brought.United was a well run club in a league on the rise. It was the British government and the Uefa who ruined everything by allowing these bloodsucking to own the club and for nobodies to be both by states and oligarchs. Why do you blame fans who has no say about this whatsoever?
If Nice won their cup final last year we’d be in the same competition right nowWhy would UEFA just be questioning the Qatari's and not Jim Ratcliffe for his involvement in Nice too? I don't get why that's hardly ever mentioned by the papers etc.
Sky wanted to take us over, promised us the worlds best players and we took to the streets to protest. We have protested the Glazers every step of the way even under SAF and the success he brought.
It’s widely unfair to somehow think we haven’t been in this position before or even suggest we’ll sit back with wide grins simply because we won a league title
If Saudis get involved then surely it's an auction between them and Qatar?
Tbh I’m surprised it not really been mentioned before. In the same away the gulf dictatorship want to clubs as political tools, the Americans could also want to do something similar and keep PL clubs in house.That last one sent cold chills down my spine. Please, no. No more. Nightmare scenario.
Fans are happy to take Qatar money but will tar the same brush for every American. While also at the same time get jealous of Chelsea's spending. Please make it make sense!!
A lot of the information we have currently seems to suggest no one is willingly to match the 6 billion number the glazers want(I think most value the club at around 4 - 5 billion).If Saudis get involved then surely it's an auction between them and Qatar?
Simpler times!We will be talking about Bebo/MySpace in a minute and downloading songs on Limewire
Don't get why the American bidders are keeping so quiet, at some point they're going to have to show themselves if they're going to take it forward.
Massive negative fan reaction now, or massive negative fan reaction in 2-3 weeks time, it's all the same.
The only the consortium I want to see at Old TraffordSo who would be the ideal American if it went that way?
Don't get why the American bidders are keeping so quiet,