Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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I keep thinking this but it seems to be pushed by the Mail of all places. Wouldn’t it be a bit more wide spread that that?
It must be working because I haven’t seen one denial yet
Is sportwashing a real thing? Have there been any studies quantifying its impact?
Do people really believe that because Abu Dhabi owns City, a City fan would have a favorable impression of Abu Dhabi (despite their human rights records)? I like to think humans are smarter than that and the whole sportwashing thing is a typical liberal / elite paternalistic view of regular people as little children who don't know what they're doing.
Generally not denying that this is a phenomenon, just questioning sportwashing specifically. I've heard of greenwashing for example and that seems legit. Some projects go get a "green" certificate from some (potentially shady) NGO and use that to advertise their project to the community. People just look at the certificate, don't dive into the details and believe it must be good.
Do people really believe that because Abu Dhabi owns City, a City fan would have a favorable impression of Abu Dhabi (despite their human rights records)? I like to think humans are smarter than that and the whole sportwashing thing is a typical liberal / elite paternalistic view of regular people as little children who don't know what they're doing.
Generally not denying that this is a phenomenon, just questioning sportwashing specifically. I've heard of greenwashing for example and that seems legit. Some projects go get a "green" certificate from some (potentially shady) NGO and use that to advertise their project to the community. People just look at the certificate, don't dive into the details and believe it must be good.
Suspect US interest have similar ways of financing the purchase to Ratcliffe which is worrying
At least getting tickets at Old Trafford next season will be easy (or should I say, "The Saudi Aramco Stadium").
The Times have the exact same information (see above). It's Raine, trying to drum up interest/excitement.
You actually suggesting people won’t flock in their droves if we get taken over and spend £200m on the first team? Weird take.
Debt at this level of money is a good thing.. INEOS get tax relief with this debt and it says right there in the article that the growth of their asset because of the United name would pay for said debt
If this is the case then feck that. Unless they plan to be paid back over a thousand years those costs would be insane every year.
Don't you dare accept minority you leeches
I don’t think there is much to suspect. I think that’s exactly what will happen
On an earlier page someone calculated about 120m per year just to service the interest
You might be an accountant but that's why accountants are not investment bankers. If you seriously believe the debt won't be effectively paid for by us, you are naive as feck.
Reporting more profit does nothing for FFP, as it's the revenue that seems to be the new constraint. And in that sense, it doesn't matter what the annual report would say, we would be hampered by a British Glazer.
Absolutely. People are not used to seeing a normal takeover anymore.
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Hardly any. It’s mostly a valuation of assets.
No way I’m having Ratcliffe with the wankers Goldman Sachs behind him.
Those cnuts ain’t much better the ME options.
Those cnuts ain’t much better the ME options.
I was joking mate
Good start but we need to know more about stadium plans etc. I’d be shocked if that wasn’t discussed and it’s a bit worrying on his side that it hasn’t been leaked out just as quick
Oh that's just an Antony and half a Fred. Pocket change
It's not worrying it's how business generally works, the way ME states dish money about has skewed this.
I was joking mate
Oh that's just an Antony and half a Fred. Pocket change
"One Suarez ever year" or something like that.
Investment bankers /British Glazer /FFP - ffs
. At this point, you are just assuming a lot of things and you have no idea what you are talking about.Better agree to disagree and move on !
You couldn’t have written more racist bollocks if you tried. So literally any person or organisation that comes from Qatar or Saudi is a criminal?
I don't think that's what the default is in football atleast. Usually out right takeovers w/o saddling clubs with debt. United were the exception.
He would still have plenty of supporters
Personally, I don't care if you don't see it but I sure as hell hope the local United fans don't get behind Ratcliffe because he's a local lad and then go crying in their cornflakes when the chickens come home to roost a couple of years later.Investment bankers /British Glazer /FFP - ffs
Better agree to disagree and move on !
The proposed Ratcliffe purchase does not saddle the club with debt.
Hoping for a late bid from Michael Knighton
You prefer Monzo make a bid?
Hmmm, so no formal expression of interest yet from anyone in Qatar or Saudi Arabia (although SA did ask for access to the data room).
Let's see who meets the Glazers' deadline - eight days to go...
I mean they own a number of different businesses don’t they so to assume it’s strictly United paying it back would seem a stretch no?
I’m struggling to see why people can’t see the upside in United being debt free and would sooner focus on something no one knows anything about.
He'll have the fan channels support for sure
Who did you expect that has $5bn to spare?
There’s rumours Chelsea have asked to see the financials and are interested in hijacking the deal!
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