I might be wrong but didn't he get Sociedad B relegated just before he got the Leverkusen job? Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can explain that one but I'd rather have McKenna than Alonso right now, at least until Alonso showed a bit more consistency in his career.
However, I know he played for them but he wasn't that much of a wanker. Plus he also pissed off Benitez by missing a CL match because his wife was giving birth. Two plus marks from me there for putting family first, and also for annoying the Fakts Man.
What you have described called the breakdown or the teardown of the Ineos Curse? The opposite of the Midas touch.
People need to go into this new era with our eyes wide open.
We are so desperate as a fan base that we are treating Ratcliffe as some knight in shining armour who would swoop in and make things all magical again.... Without actually looking at facts or thinking that managing United is so obvious and is being done by incompetent fecks at the moment.
See the teardown of the decline of Team Ineos post above.
Past is prologue as one smart man once said.
I might be wrong but didn't he get Sociedad B relegated just before he got the Leverkusen job?
That’s not the point. You said it was ironic to call PSG a circus because they are above Nice. They are a circus and their position is irrelevant to that.
They got rid of those players, and now their CEO is Fabrice Bocquet, so they learned from their mistakes. Why are you making up that they haven't?
Fabrice Bocquet has extended experience of being CEO for another football club.
The PSG Chairman is a retired Tennis player who has constantly made the same mistakes at feck all cost to his job since 2011.
I didn't say INEOS didn't make mistakes. I said the learned from them whereas PSG didn't, for 10+ years. There is little basis to argue PSG isn't worse run.
Moreover, you said there was little to argue that Sheikh Jassim wouldn't have run the club poorly. Very low evidence to suggest this. In fact the people assigned to turn up on his behalf for the second round of bids (because he was too lazy to rock up himself) were the people tipped for key roles. Not one of them had actual sporting experience.
PSG still have a retired tennis player as CEO. And this insinuation that INEOS haven't learned from mistakes is bullshit. They made positive changes that put them in a stronger position today.Psg has hired campos as sporting director. He got rid of a big chunk of the big salaried players and had invested on young players instead. Despite losing many top players thus reducing the salary bill they are still 1st in the French league
https://www.thenationalnews.com/spo...ke-over-as-sporting-director-at-old-trafford/
Some interesting names on this list alongside the Edwards and Ashworth links.
PSG still have a retired tennis player as CEO. And this insinuation that INEOS haven't learned from mistakes is bullshit. They made positive changes that put them in a stronger position today.
You also talk about Nice protests as though it's something new in France. Psg fans have protested at their club too. Quite recently in fact and that's after a decade of reign.
Time to get the old band back togetherhttps://www.thenationalnews.com/spo...ke-over-as-sporting-director-at-old-trafford/
Some interesting names on this list alongside the Edwards and Ashworth links.
Apologies, corrected on that.Please do post were I said that ineos hasn't learnt from their mistakes. I plastered that it did in almost every post about ineos in the past week or so
Quite frankly I can't see beyond Ashworth and Edwards for the sporting director role. Berta is good as well but has zero EPL experience. Mitchell would be great as Head of Recruitment
Apologies, corrected on that.
But this idea that PSG isn't worse run than Nice I find weird. They have a decade of bare minimums and their CEO has never taken any sort of accountability or consequence for his poor decisions. Moreover he has no footballing pedigree and is there because of his Qatari relations more than anything else.
And I think there's a good basis to suggest Sheikh Jassim would do the same.
You said INEOS were not run better than PSG. It took PSG a decade to place a competent director of football and they still have an ex tennis player as chairman. It's fair to argue that INEOS run their club better, by conducting a proper review of the mistakes and amending them with better representatives at managerial and chairman level.I said that both were ran terribly and they both had now learnt from their mistakes
This is clearly bait. No one fall for it.The people spelling Radcliffe as Ratcliffe to compare him to a rodent need to grow up. Their immaturity apparently knows no bounds.
It's spelled that way everywhere...The people spelling Radcliffe as Ratcliffe to compare him to a rodent need to grow up. Their immaturity apparently knows no bounds.
You said INEOS were not run better than PSG. It took PSG a decade to place a competent director of football and they still have an ex tennis player as chairman. It's fair to argue that INEOS run their club better, by conducting a proper review of the mistakes and amending them with better representatives at managerial and chairman level.
PSG trying a daft galactico experiment of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe wasn't that long ago, and a lot of people could see the issues with it in real time.
Cant see how we can pry ashworth out of the Saudis hands... And don't say bone saws.
The 'circus' are still above prime Nice.
City, Chelsea did not dick around not learning from their mistakes for literally a decade. Psg did.I said that the 'circus' is still ahead to a prime Nice. I also went on explaining that both were run badly and both had since learnt from their mistakes.
What PSG had done is not that different to what the new rich clubs had done at the beginning of their reign. You might not remember City at the very beginning but it was a mess as well. Robinho for example admitted that he was signing for City thinking that they were us. Chelsea had their bumps as well. They bought Veron, Crespo, Smertin and Mutu in their first year. Then they nicked Kenyon as their CEO, he sabotaged us (ex Ronaldinho deal) and he brought to Chelsea all our transfer plans including Robben. They were also lucky to find Mourinho as well. I am not disputing that PSG couldn't have been run better but throwing money at a small club for players who aren't necessarily going to be a success is always a necessary evil . That''s the only way clubs like that can build their reputation and attract top players. I believe that Newcastle would have done the same if it wasn't for FFP. The problem with PSG is that they are the only attractive thing in the French league. Players join City because there's competition and they will be playing against the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and us. A PSG player goes there for $$$$. That's their sole motivation. Good luck persuading a Haaland to keep himself exciting while playing Brest this week and Clemont Foot the week after.
What I disagree is this concept that Nice was run better then psg. It wasn't
City, Chelsea did not dick around not learning from their mistakes for literally a decade. Psg did.
Also here's what you said
Well of course they are, because they’ve cheated like City and spent a fecking gazilion.
Nice on the other hand are trying to run a club properly and as we have seen vs. City, even the best run clubs can and do find it almost impossible to be above the nation state.
The people spelling Radcliffe as Ratcliffe to compare him to a rodent need to grow up. Their immaturity apparently knows no bounds.
The people spelling Radcliffe as Ratcliffe to compare him to a rodent need to grow up. Their immaturity apparently knows no bounds.
Psg were run worse though. How can you get away with a decade of poor performance and still be CEO for example?They weren't run better then PSG but I never said that they were run worse. Quite frankly they were both run shit
Quite frankly I can't see beyond Ashworth and Edwards for the sporting director role. Berta is good as well but has zero EPL experience. Mitchell would be great as Head of Recruitment
Psg were run worse though. How can you get away with a decade of poor performance and still be CEO for example?
Until I see a reliable source reporting interest in Ashworth/Edwards as DOF and Mitchell as Head of Recruitment I won't believe
Quite frankly I can't see beyond Ashworth and Edwards for the sporting director role. Berta is good as well but has zero EPL experience. Mitchell would be great as Head of Recruitment
Yes because they spent far far more than any other team. That tends to happen when you do that.On the flip side PSG won 9 league titles in that decade. Sure they have underachieved in the CL but that's quite a tough cup to win. SAF won it just 2 times in his entire career
Well of course they are, because they’ve cheated like City and spent a fecking gazilion.
Nice on the other hand are trying to run a club properly and as we have seen vs. City, even the best run clubs can and do find it almost impossible to be above the nation state.
I think Blanc and Mitchell are in the bag. God knows in which role the latter will be in. The rest is pie in the sky
FFP became a thing in recent years. Before that it was normal for owners to pump millions into the club.
Tbf I think the recruitment at Newcastle has been very average and too focused on British talent. They wanted McTominay ffs... Long-term they'll look like duds, just like Arsenal's.Quite frankly I can't see beyond Ashworth and Edwards for the sporting director role. Berta is good as well but has zero EPL experience. Mitchell would be great as Head of Recruitment
Tbf I think the recruitment at Newcastle has been very average and too focused on British talent. They wanted McTominay ffs... Long-term they'll look like duds, just like Arsenal's.
I'd much prefer Mitchell over Ashworth if Edwards is a no-go.
Think he'd thrive at Newcastle.Tbf I think the recruitment at Newcastle has been very average and too focused on British talent. They wanted McTominay ffs... Long-term they'll look like duds, just like Arsenal's.
I'd much prefer Mitchell over Ashworth if Edwards is a no-go.
