Club Sale | It’s done!

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Reflecting on this, it's easy to get sucked into the media narrative here but this is one of the few times, maybe the only one, I actually think the Glazers aren't doing anything wrong.

They set an asking price, Sir Jim and Qatar lowballed, came back in and crept up closer to their price. There haven't been any games (and hopefully there won't be) they just have a valuation in mind and it was the bidders who took ages to actually get close enough that they then moved forwards. If you want to sell your house and someone fecks you around a bit before getting close to the asking price, it's hardly your fault.

If reports are believed Qatar and/or Ineos should have signed their NDAs and be working their way through the club's financials + likely renegotiating or trying to renegotiate on elements of their offer now they should have full visibility on what the club looks like. Then we see if the Glazers accept. Should be within 1-2 weeks now.
 
Weird they’re being so longwinded with this when we’ve been so snappy and proactive in the transfer market over the years.
 
Reflecting on this, it's easy to get sucked into the media narrative here but this is one of the few times, maybe the only one, I actually think the Glazers aren't doing anything wrong.

They set an asking price, Sir Jim and Qatar lowballed, came back in and crept up closer to their price. There haven't been any games (and hopefully there won't be) they just have a valuation in mind and it was the bidders who took ages to actually get close enough that they then moved forwards. If you want to sell your house and someone fecks you around a bit before getting close to the asking price, it's hardly your fault.

If reports are believed Qatar and/or Ineos should have signed their NDAs and be working their way through the club's financials + likely renegotiating or trying to renegotiate on elements of their offer now they should have full visibility on what the club looks like. Then we see if the Glazers accept. Should be within 1-2 weeks now.

I partially agree with you but if the estate agent tells you it's worth 400k and you put it up for 450 chances are you will get lowball offers.
 
I partially agree with you but if the estate agent tells you it's worth 400k and you put it up for 450 chances are you will get lowball offers.
Thats a great analogy and perfectly sums up the chancers that we have owning our club at the moment.
 
They have to sell the club 100 percent, but if this drags on towards the end of the window and Ten Hag feels that he has been undermined then you could not
honestly blame him if he decided to hand in a resignation letter, this is so very poor on many levels by the Glazers, the lack of transparency and integrity is genuinely shocking.
 
Everyone else getting on with their transfer business whilst the Glazers just hold us up.

F-king sick of it. Get the fk out of our club now.
Yep, especially with players where we may be interested - other clubs will be looking to get those tied up before we’re back in the market
 
They have to sell the club 100 percent, but if this drags on towards the end of the window and Ten Hag feels that he has been undermined then you could not
honestly blame him if he decided to hand in a resignation letter, this is so very poor on many levels by the Glazers, the lack of transparency and integrity is genuinely shocking.
Ten Hag isn’t resigning and giving up millions of quid for himself.

People keep plucking this notion out of their backside and it’s ridiculous.

And Ten Hag will have been briefed behind the scenes in regards to the sale, he will know far more about the current situation than we realise.

We all need to chill. The long term health of the club is far more important than a transfer window.
 
Ten Hag isn’t resigning and giving up millions of quid for himself.

People keep plucking this notion out of their backside and it’s ridiculous.

And Ten Hag will have been briefed behind the scenes in regards to the sale, he will know far more about the current situation than we realise.

We all need to chill. The long term health of the club is far more important than a transfer window.
Never said he was resigning....
 
Never said he was resigning....
You literally said “no-one would blame him for handing in his resignation letter” and I replied that this is never happening, so it’s a moot point.

As for Avram Glazer, he has always reminded me of the late John McCririck. They look eerily similar.
 
The Glazers will do whatever nets them the most money with absolutely no regard towards the fans, whether positive or negative. The longer they drag this out, the more chance one bidder drops out. There's plenty reason to think both bidders will be furious and offer a lower price if they have to miss out on the transfer window

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You literally said “no-one would blame him for handing in his resignation letter” and I replied that this is never happening, so it’s a moot point.

As for Avram Glazer, he has always reminded me of the late John McCririck. They look eerily similar.
This whole EtH walk away storyline is utter madness and is repeated on here by plenty of posters. It’s like we love being upset and disappointed
 
Ten Hag isn’t resigning and giving up millions of quid for himself.

People keep plucking this notion out of their backside and it’s ridiculous.

And Ten Hag will have been briefed behind the scenes in regards to the sale, he will know far more about the current situation than we realise.

We all need to chill. The long term health of the club is far more important than a transfer window.
It is the long term that matters. Everyone is just frustrated, I find it hard to stay patient I must admit.
 
Reflecting on this, it's easy to get sucked into the media narrative here but this is one of the few times, maybe the only one, I actually think the Glazers aren't doing anything wrong.

They set an asking price, Sir Jim and Qatar lowballed, came back in and crept up closer to their price. There haven't been any games (and hopefully there won't be) they just have a valuation in mind and it was the bidders who took ages to actually get close enough that they then moved forwards. If you want to sell your house and someone fecks you around a bit before getting close to the asking price, it's hardly your fault.

If reports are believed Qatar and/or Ineos should have signed their NDAs and be working their way through the club's financials + likely renegotiating or trying to renegotiate on elements of their offer now they should have full visibility on what the club looks like. Then we see if the Glazers accept. Should be within 1-2 weeks now.
Ban-worthy blasphemy there! :nono:
 
I don’t think that the take over delays will impact that much on transfer business as any transfer costs incurred would be written into the contract.m that the buyer would be picking up. Glazers won’t be out of pocket trust me.

We are constrained by FFP and our wages.

We need to OFFLOAD high earners or players that are not wanted to generate more transfer funds.

As slow as ousignings are - we are even slower at offloading anyone.

Simple equation…..Shift Out to Bring In

Also - all selling clubs think that there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow so are quoting us astronomical fees for players.
 
Do you mean they didn't fire him earlier? We hired him pretty quickly after SAF retired. Unless you are referring to his late start, which is his own fault because he decided to take a one month long holiday instead of getting a head start at the most difficult job in football at the time.

From memory, they didn’t pay the compensation to release him from his Everton contract before it expired, so he started later than he should have done.
 
Reflecting on this, it's easy to get sucked into the media narrative here but this is one of the few times, maybe the only one, I actually think the Glazers aren't doing anything wrong.

They set an asking price, Sir Jim and Qatar lowballed, came back in and crept up closer to their price. There haven't been any games (and hopefully there won't be) they just have a valuation in mind and it was the bidders who took ages to actually get close enough that they then moved forwards. If you want to sell your house and someone fecks you around a bit before getting close to the asking price, it's hardly your fault.

If reports are believed Qatar and/or Ineos should have signed their NDAs and be working their way through the club's financials + likely renegotiating or trying to renegotiate on elements of their offer now they should have full visibility on what the club looks like. Then we see if the Glazers accept. Should be within 1-2 weeks now.

and this is likely to be the single biggest transaction they finalise in their lifetimes, setting up their family for generations to come. they're not going to rush it through to placate the fans' interest in one summer's transfer window.

still annoying af though.
 
The Glazers are going to screw United right to the very end. It seems clear that this is why we're doing nothing in terms of transfers or even sales.

I fully expect our lineup next season to be virtually identical to this season, and to see Maguire, Martial and co in our squad in that first game of the season.
 
Summer '22 Transfers:
Malacia - 5th July
Eriksen - 15th July
Martinez - 27th July
Casemiro - 22nd Aug
Antony - 31st Aug

Summer '21 Transfers:
Sancho - 23rd July
Varane - 14th Aug
Ronaldo- 31st Aug

#MUFC always do business July - Aug
 
Summer '22 Transfers:
Malacia - 5th July
Eriksen - 15th July
Martinez - 27th July
Casemiro - 22nd Aug
Antony - 31st Aug

Summer '21 Transfers:
Sancho - 23rd July
Varane - 14th Aug
Ronaldo- 31st Aug

#MUFC always do business July - Aug

Would be interesting to compare that to the dates rivals make major signings. Wonder how much later we actually tend to do business.
 
Would be interesting to compare that to the dates rivals make major signings. Wonder how much later we actually tend to do business.
Exactly. The allegation isn't that we're particularly late this year, the allegation is that we're late every year and we were hoping that a quicker sale might give us chance to move earlier this time, like other clubs seem to.

Or it might all be subjective and bollocks - stat guru needed.
 
Summer '22 Transfers:
Malacia - 5th July
Eriksen - 15th July
Martinez - 27th July
Casemiro - 22nd Aug
Antony - 31st Aug


Summer '21 Transfers:
Sancho - 23rd July
Varane - 14th Aug
Ronaldo- 31st Aug

#MUFC always do business July - Aug


These were reactive signings as a result of other team's moves in the market/early season results. Take these out, and you have the lists the Glazer's were more happy sanctioning. You also see a difference of about 170m spending, which again indicates how much less they're comfortable spending in the market. It's drastically behind the likes of our rivals.
 
Summer '22 Transfers:
Malacia - 5th July
Eriksen - 15th July
Martinez - 27th July
Casemiro - 22nd Aug
Antony - 31st Aug

Summer '21 Transfers:
Sancho - 23rd July
Varane - 14th Aug
Ronaldo- 31st Aug

#MUFC always do business July - Aug
Last Summer was actually a decent window for once.
 
Summer '22 Transfers:
Malacia - 5th July
Eriksen - 15th July
Martinez - 27th July
Casemiro - 22nd Aug
Antony - 31st Aug

Summer '21 Transfers:
Sancho - 23rd July
Varane - 14th Aug
Ronaldo- 31st Aug

#MUFC always do business July - Aug
We only signed Malacia that early because he was hours away from joining Lyon. Martinez was the same - Arsenal coming in meant we risked losing him without making a move.
 
Exactly. The allegation isn't that we're particularly late this year, the allegation is that we're late every year and we were hoping that a quicker sale might give us chance to move earlier this time, like other clubs seem to.

Or it might all be subjective and bollocks - stat guru needed.

I think it's also that we follow every single Utd rumour from its inception. So we see every minutiae of it for weeks/months.

Whereas we probably don't follow many aggregator accounts for other teams. It may be a rumour for a while but we'll only see it when Ornstein tweets or something like that and it feels out of the blue and fast to get done.
 
We only signed Malacia that early because he was hours away from joining Lyon. Martinez was the same - Arsenal coming in meant we risked losing him without making a move.
Yeah we really need to start either going for players that nobody else is interested in or just paying way over the odds to sign everyone on June 1st.
 
Last Summer was actually a decent window for once.

When you look at it like that, but in reality, we panicked massively and ended up overspending at the end. We also failed at clearing out the squad - arguably something we've been worse at than recruitment in recent years - and ended up having to deal with the Ronaldo drama whilst managing a hectic schedule. Antony could have been brought in much earlier at a way lower price.
 
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