Apparently, the best time for a manager to resign is right before hundreds of millions of Qatari money are funneled into the club, with the potential of drastically improving both his squad options and his own salary.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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There are reports that this won’t be before the start of the new season though
The takeover doesn't need to formally finish for the club to act accordingly. But there needs to be a decision.
Yeah definitely does,maybe it's Lawton & Dickinson from The Times in disguise on here
Just clicked to check who the poster was. I’m glad I have him on ignore. His posts are written from the top of a very high horse and are asanine at best. If this is what qualifies one as a “superior fan” these days, then I don’t want to be one
Probably. He is a very level headed man
If I were to go back to posts from yourself I know I will find contradictions, in particular about human rights.
Finnish. The Swedes are the wild ones compared to the finns
Hopefully before the window closes. Or he’ll have to struggle until January (when the dreams of many of unlimited funds and no expense spared means it won’t matter) to buy.
My second son came to the world yesterday. If the Qatar deal goes through I may name him Jassim (haven´t told the wife though..).
Yeah I´m Swedish! We're cr@zy as feck!
Depends what info he's being fed. If it really is, fairly unequivocally, a deadlock due to Glazer indecisiveness and he's not being given a timeline for being able to pull lever on deals [this is all hypothetical or at best conjecture, though it is true other teams appear to be acting quicker ], then why not go nuclear option and tender his resignation unless the deal is provisionally announced in 24 hours, then, if nothing happens, publically announce his resignation.
Do you think that wouldn't speed things up due to pressure from investors - even if they don't have a formal mechanism, as far as has been made public, to force the Glazers to resign their positions on the board? Do you think ETH wouldn't get his job back as soon as the deal was announced, courtesy of the new owner? The Glazers have nothing to lose except the (not-guaranteed) prospect of an additional few percentage points on top of a guaranteed windfall far in excess in the club's formal value and wildly in excess of anything they've done to bring value to it. We know that they just can't afford not to at the very least water down their shares significantly, and no-one working in finance who's commented thinks any such 'watering down' through investment would itself happen without the Glazers relinquishing control over their own remaining shares in practice in the form of handing over board control to outside investors (a loss of control which might actually help them, even as it's a formal risk always, but their lack of competency isn't something which we've seen any evidence of their being mindful of).
Although there is always the element of Glazers simply negotiating, does either party seriously regard the lead Glazers as having acted in a way through these negotiations - with their Succession/Corporate satire show 'games' , implicit squabbles, radio silences and the rest ill-befitting a serious transaction - which is anything other than counterproductive to the teams prospects, or that they've been anything but incompetent custodians who wouldn't have a place at the table without their inheritance of assets. The Glazers are a joke amongst agents and chairpeople across the continent, so embarrassing them wouldn't be regarded as some deficit of character/professionalism on the part of ETH through the eyes of the new ownership....
Just clicked to check who the poster was. I’m glad I have him on ignore. His posts are written from the top of a very high horse and are asanine at best. If this is what qualifies one as a “superior fan” these days, then I don’t want to be one
There’s just so many people on here, regardless of side, who have adopted a really shitty attitude when talking to fellow fans. There’s not a single one of us who doesn’t want the best for United, but we just disagree what’s the best.
This is a very weird and unpleasant little interaction you have instigated.
What subject is it you think you will catch me out on you odd person?
His family together is worth £250 billion.
The other side? Aren’t we all Man United fans? What other side do you speak of?
Or are you still condemning people who are pro Qatar as moral inferiors? even though you don’t know anything about their private life, how good sons, husbands, fathers they are, or I f they collaborate in church or in a charity, etc.
Your post came as extremely pretentious
I’m willing to bet Newcastle still being the richest club in the league will rankle with some folk.
Really? Not in my personal experience. Every Finnish person I've met was a delightful lunatic. I found some of the Swedish people fairly boring. Although the sample size of the Finnish was significantly smaller.
Try it, then.
It's all getting a little weird to be honest.
And it’s another poster on here who got warned about a wind up post.
Doesn’t make any sense
Andy Mitten: "Actual deadlines for bids matter little beyond ushering in a new round of bids. This is the auction the Glazers wanted to maximise their sale price."
"They’re ponderous decision makers at the best of times. There are decisions relating to middle-ranking members of staff that have to be approved by the Glazers. These processes have deeply frustrated previous United managers; it is not a dynamic, front-footed, business"
"Witness how long United took to establish a women’s team, to properly fund the youth system, to do even some piecemeal improvements to Old Trafford – and the Glazers have no need to rush since the price being bid keeps going up."
It's been weird for months.
Wumminator literally got a warning for that very post you're complaining about, what more do you want?
So other than reports of a potential battering at a chippy, anything of note happen this weekend?
Can't wait until they're gone from our club.
Nothing new at all. Check back mid week.
I just mean Livewire's sudden disapproval of me.
A crucifixion and a Sunday roast.
It’s clear as day I didn’t see the warning so apologies to mods and their families.
The number of given fecks by investors if ETH resigns is approximately 0.
Considering that the Glazers are selling, the given fecks of them with regards to investors being concerned about ETH resigning is also approximately 0.
The number of clubs who would pay ETH the same salary as United right now is also approximately 0. Or maybe 1, PSG might be interested.
Refer to my post above: ETH threatening to resign is honestly high-reward, low-risk. There are wealthy people who stand to make excellent money with the Glazers selling - they don't have any real political or business leverage aside from owning the club - the funds who stand to make money if SJ buys their shares aren't worrying about currying favour with the Glazers. All it takes is one destabilizing gesture to take this over the edge in terms of putting them under pressure for their handling of the sale, pressure that would reverberate through the standard media, the business press and 'privately'
PSG are hiring Enrique.
If nothing else, the last few pages have been mildly entertaining if a bit confusing.
Oh, then it is 0.
To be fair, my main point is that at a time when the average time a manager spends in an EPL club is less than 2 years, it is beyond naive to think that ETH resigning would achieve anything in the selling of a 6B asset.
You're wrong on point one. And he'll get exactly the same salary, if not better, when the new owners take over. Do you think Glazers behaving in a way that alienates the key person associated with restoring the club's brand is going to have no impact. The Glazers aren't immune to pressure, they're not bullet-proof; they just happen to be based across the Atlantic. But they're not controllers of financial or political power, where any of these wall street people have to tiptoe around them; all they're doing is further confirming their ineptitude and pissing both 'ordinary' fans and people who stand to capitalize from a deal going through.
EDIT: There have already been reports that investors were prepared to sue Glazers (and Ratcliffe potentially, if structure of his deal remained as is and went through) for selling shares at different prices for a partial take-over but also, potentially, for failing to complete the takeover at all (and therefore not only tanking the price but costing them the opportunity to cash out on this). Finance people can explain this better, but to think that Glazers are magically immune to 'bad press' or to being threatened with litigation when it costs other wealthy people money is itself a form of negative 'magic thinking'
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That is the House of Al Thani; which may or may not be family, and in some instances isn’t classed as family
Owning me, owning you - Ah haaa
Lend me money or we’re through
Owning me, owning you - Ah haaa
Glazers and Sir Jim or the Sheikh - Please choose
Owning me, owning you!
Sorry I just noticed this and couldn't resist...
@Rhyme Animal going off because apparently SJR has a Chelsea season ticket...
Meanwhile...
@Rhyme Animal going off because apparently SJR has a Chelsea season ticket...
Meanwhile...
There are rumours of wealth not facts.
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