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laughtersassassin said:
I really don't want Americans. Not after the Glazers.
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After the Glazers I don’t want anyone who doesn’t employ the best people in each position, who takes money out and not investing in the clubs future, who squanders billions in ineffectual spending and who shackle the club with millions of debt.
Id rather not be an oil sheiks plaything, a sports washing project or have the clubs good reputation muddied by associated with questionable moral and ethical practises.
I really don’t care what country they come from.
 
glazed said:
I think my posts are self explanatory. I don't want nation states condemned by Amnesty owning Manchester United. That includes any non-democracies and therefore the entire Middle East (bar Israel, albeit flawed).
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Are you serious :lol:
 
I don't want to hear about any Americans in charge of this club anymore. Think I might get a heart attack from hearing that the Glazers successors... will be another Glazers.
 
RexHamilton said:
Yeah. That’s what I was pointing out. It’s dumb even if the UK imported exclusively Arab oil
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I wasn't disagreeing with your post mate, just that brain dead ''but you put petrol in your car, so you're a hypocrite'' nonsense itches my shit.

Andy_Cole said:
I think someone uses the word whataboutism every other post!
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Probably because these threads average a whataboutism about every other post.
 
Sviken said:
I don't want to hear about any Americans in charge of this club anymore. Think I might get a heart attack from hearing that the Glazers successors... will be another Glazers.
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Not all people who share nationality are the same
 
Sviken said:
I don't want to hear about any Americans in charge of this club anymore. Think I might get a heart attack from hearing that the Glazers successors... will be another Glazers.
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I don’t think that could happen now really, being positive

Glazers wouldn’t take over the club now with debts already there and a decaying stadium and the loans it would take now

I think whoever buys it realistically has to have the club at heart (or at least want to make it successful rather than profitable). It’s not very smart money for someone looking to make United profitable and expect a return on their investment any time soon

Hence why people assume an Arabian takeover is on the cards. Or something like Amazon
 
Andy_Cole said:
Glazed is on ignore as clearly he’s biased as feck.
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Are the top reds now rallying around middle east ownership? The same kind we've been calling out for years at City? The caf really excels at bad takes.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
I don’t think that could happen now really, being positive

Glazers wouldn’t take over the club now with debts already there and a decaying stadium and the loans it would take now

I think whoever buys it realistically has to have the club at heart (or at least want to make it successful rather than profitable). It’s not very smart money for someone looking to make United profitable and expect a return on their investment any time soon

Hence why people assume an Arabian takeover is on the cards. Or something like Amazon
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A US investment, like Chelsea, would be an investment fund type purchase. That means investors require a return on said investment.

While that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t invest in the team and facilities, the asking price would be too high to make it work unless there were massive revenue increases to follow down the line. The European Super League would have been that carrot but now that looks dead for the foreseeable future, buying Utd at the prices being quoted doesn’t make sense from an investment point of view. Liverpool would be a far better option as it’s a much cheaper entry.

Therefore, the purchasers of Utd are in it for different reasons and not an immediate return on investment, which is why it all points to the Middle East or a very wealthy owner.
 
Going from Glazers to a Saudi or Qatari regime ownership is crazy for me.

Yes the Glazers arent the best owners, but we use a lot of money. Have they invested in stadium and other facilities they could be considered good owners. And at least they support the Democratic party
 
Andersonson said:
Going from Glazers to a Saudi or Qatari regime ownership is crazy for me.

Yes the Glazers arent the best owners, but we use a lot of money. Have they invested in stadium and other facilities they could be considered good owners. And at least they support the Democratic party
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Glazers were Trump supporters. Gave him money for his election.
 
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Dubai on Wednesday announced a mammoth $8.7 trillion economic plan for the coming decade, aimed at turbocharging trade, foreign investment and its place on the map as a global hub.

I wonder if some of the rumours about Dubai buying United is linked to this, feck knows where they are getting this kind of money but it seems they see Saudi opening up and don’t want to be left behind.

I don’t know how buying United will help their economy but I guess it would certainly put them in the limelight.
 
Coops73 said:
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Dubai on Wednesday announced a mammoth $8.7 trillion economic plan for the coming decade, aimed at turbocharging trade, foreign investment and its place on the map as a global hub.

I wonder if some of the rumours about Dubai buying United is linked to this, feck knows where they are getting this kind of money but it seems they see Saudi opening up and don’t want to be left behind.

I don’t know how buying United will help their economy but I guess it would certainly put them in the limelight.
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Seems very interesting. With those ambitions, they are one Gulf state missing out on a football club, like thwir neighbouring countries.

I was always skeptical of Dubai owning us, as I felt they werenin the pockets of Abu Dhabi after the bail outs. However, they seem very ambitious. Could work.
 
red thru&thru said:
Seems very interesting. With those ambitions, they are one Gulf state missing out on a football club, like thwir neighbouring countries.

I was always skeptical of Dubai owning us, as I felt they werenin the pockets of Abu Dhabi after the bail outs. However, they seem very ambitious. Could work.
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Same, like I’ve mentioned before a family member works for a very prominent bank in Dubai and he was sceptical about whether they had the finances but has admitted this announcement was perhaps a bit of a surprise despite there being a lot of changes coming over there I.e. the working week and alcohol license laws tax etc.

For some reason I’ve always had it in my mind they favoured Liverpool, which of course is a possibility.
 
Coops73 said:
Same, like I’ve mentioned before a family member works for a very prominent bank in Dubai and he was sceptical about whether they had the finances but has admitted this announcement was perhaps a bit of a surprise despite there being a lot of changes coming over there I.e. the working week and alcohol license laws tax etc.

For some reason I’ve always had it in my mind they favoured Liverpool, which of course is a possibility.
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Yeah, it'll all come down to theor ambition. Do they want a controlling stake in a club, such as us? Or, do they just want a partial investment?

The next few weeks will certainly be interesting.
 
Coops73 said:
Same, like I’ve mentioned before a family member works for a very prominent bank in Dubai and he was sceptical about whether they had the finances but has admitted this announcement was perhaps a bit of a surprise despite there being a lot of changes coming over there I.e. the working week and alcohol license laws tax etc.

For some reason I’ve always had it in my mind they favoured Liverpool, which of course is a possibility.
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Probably because the former chairman of the now dissolved DIC, who tried to buy Liverpool 15 years or so ago, is a massive Liverpool fan. Feel that maybe has stuck with English tabloids. They even make it out that Sheikh Mohammed himself is a Liverpool fan (probably due to that DIC link) but I have seen nothing on it to suggest he even bothers with football (he only seems interested in horses). His sons (and also the deceased former Crowne Prince who was a massive United fan) on the other hand seems interested. Sheikh Hamdan has become a friend of Ronaldo, not sure if that helps the situation for us:lol:
 
Is the possibility of a consortium of ex players + a huge backer like Radcliffe out of the question?
 
Andersonson said:
Going from Glazers to a Saudi or Qatari regime ownership is crazy for me.

Yes the Glazers arent the best owners, but we use a lot of money. Have they invested in stadium and other facilities they could be considered good owners. And at least they support the Democratic party
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I think you're kidding but on the off chance you're not, what the feck difference does that make to me as a Man Utd fan?
 
glazed said:
Are the top reds now rallying around middle east ownership? The same kind we've been calling out for years at City? The caf really excels at bad takes.
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Yes many are get used to it, not everyone mixes politics with football. Fans just enjoy watching football, for some it`s a relief when they have enough to worry about with the economy and cost of living.
 
mnesiac said:
Is the possibility of a consortium of ex players + a huge backer like Radcliffe out of the question?
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Id say that it's unlikely because of the sale price of the club plus the amount of money needed to be spent on Old Trafford would require about 7 to 8 billion in total. Then they'd have to try and compete with City and Newcastle for players.
 
mnesiac said:
Is the possibility of a consortium of ex players + a huge backer like Radcliffe out of the question?
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I would say that it should not be impossible to raise a fair amount of money in a bid for Glazers shares. Remember that the Glazer only owns 67% of the shares of Manchester United plc. If the Clubs Enterprise Value is 6bn -- which is higher than many of the experts deem can be supported by the fundamentals of the club -- 5.32bn would be the price for all shares, given the 680m debt. That gives you a price for Glazers' shares of 3.56bn. Barca sold 25% of their future TV earnings for about 500m. You will control the company if you just own 50+ % of the shares. So a group retaining 50.1% of the shares could sell off 17% for 904m. Consequently, you must "just" raise 2bn to buy a controlling stake of the club if you are willing to sell TV rights and settle with a 50.1% stake. That is less than Ratcliffe bid for Chelsea FC. Surely, some kind of mix of the Red Knights, Beckham and co. could raise.

But what I cannot see is a consortium of that kind -- win -- an auction for the club. The value of the club should simply be much higher for someone that can afford to contribute a lot of funds over a long time, perhaps 200m per year over a 10 year period, than for someone who just can get the rights to name the board directors and run the club.
 
oneway said:
Yes many are get used to it, not everyone mixes human rights abuses with football. Fans just enjoy watching football, for some it`s a relief when they have enough to worry about with the economy and cost of living.

Ignorance is always bliss.
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oneway said:
Yes many are get used to it, not everyone mixes politics with football. Fans just enjoy watching football, for some it`s a relief when they have enough to worry about with the economy and cost of living.
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I suppose so. I will carry on watching too but I'm not deluding myself about the evil religious dictatorship we might be getting into bed with.
 
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