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AFP and Reuters are comparable in terms of credibility and track record. Both globally recognized agencies (along with AP). AFP are apparently publishing something different from the earlier Reuters piece.
They don’t seem to be. They’re just quoting the Qatari camp as saying they’re still waiting for a clear answer. The Reuters article said they were close to being put into exclusive negotiations and were the favs but Ratcliffe could still bid higher. It didn’t say it was done yet. The issue is the Reuters headline didn’t match the article - headline made it appear like they had been named preferred bidder.
 
what a shit show :lol:''

always a circus, grabbing my circus peanuts for the show
This thread would have been on a different level in the glorious past of the forum. Popcorn memes galore would have been the order of the day. .
 
Reuters' reputation took a massive hit for their reporting on the war in Ukraine, but that obviously will be minor compared to if it turns out that they are reporting fake news to a desperately hungry group of football fans.
 
Especially interesting that there is absolutely nothing officially published or on Twitter from AFP

You won't necessarily see it yourself because AFP sell ready to publish articles.
 
Amusing seeing Times sports writers rubbishing Reuters on an acquisition story, sure Matts

Yeah that's the weird thing, it would be one thing for them to say that they had conflicting reports from their sources, but both keegan and the times said that reuters report had been widely dismissed which it obviously hadn't
 
Trust Reuters with what exactly? They report based on their sources but do you actually think someone at the club or Raine officially confirmed anything to then?

The answer is obviously not as that would be illegal so again exactly what is the trust here? They ain't making shit up but it doesn't mean the story will always check out.

You think Reuters source is some guy who sells an assistant in their office coffee? Reuters is one of the few that would have the better sources than most, if not all, newspapers
 
I thought the De Jong saga would be hard to top in terms of pure mad bastardry but boy, this takeover stuff has blown it out of the water.
 
Yeah I'm desperate for Qatar to be chosen as bidders but it's ridiculous to suggest that The Times aren't reliable. That's what the kids on the internet would call 'cope'.

Ineos are still in this race.
 
Reuters tweeted this out again.



Glorious. And seems to have been updated since the initial report

The sources requested anonymity because the matter is confidential. Representatives for Manchester United and Sheikh Jassim did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Shares of Manchester United jumped as much as 15% on the news, and were trading up 10% at $25.53 in afternoon trading in New York on Thursday.
 
I do hope all this saga bullshit stops with new owners though. Literally everything we do takes an absolute age with so many ups and downs.
 
Yeah I'm desperate for Qatar to be chosen as bidders but it's ridiculous to suggest that The Times aren't reliable. That's what the kids on the internet would call 'cope'.

Ineos are still in this race.

The article literally said that the reuters report had been widely dismissed. It wasn't offering a conflicting viewpoint, it just flat out lied
 
The fact fans have to 'choose' if we are prepared to support the owners of the club is a shambles in the first place. It shouldn't be like this.

That what having only two not so optimal choices to choose from, spiced with both being from each end of the spectre with the process being prolonged and you have the recipe for a civil war among the fanbase.
 
Yeah I'm desperate for Qatar to be chosen as bidders but it's ridiculous to suggest that The Times aren't reliable. That's what the kids on the internet would call 'cope'.

Ineos are still in this race.

Yea, its a reliable source. But the times have had all the big Ratcliffe briefs

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-want-to-buy-manchester-united-says-jim-ratcliffe-bjqk2bfrx

We know who is feeding Keegan every time he speaks. Worth considering the same with the times
 
The biggest and most recognisable companies and brands are involved in the Middle East. I've not seen a murmur from people calling them out. The lyrics from the Abba song goes ring so true.

Morality is so lost these days. Respect to those small band of brothers and sisters still around to argue for the downtrodden.
Who are the downtrodden in this scenario? People only want the best for the average person in Qatar. That doesn't mean they have to be onboard with how its government behaves, and be happy with it being involved in taking over United.
 
I can only hope that in a Post Glazer MUFC world that we make up for all of the drug out processes over the years..... Plain and simple they are the worst businessmen and some of the worst people.

The club was not yours to begin with.... you made a mint now FECK OFF.... just go. No farewell tour... we don't need 20 rounds of bids.
 
Times vs Reuters. One will lose a bit of credibility after this. With this last tweet Reuters is sending a message to Times.
Lets see what Times will say now.
 
Here's the likely AFP piece as aggregated by Yahoo.

https://news.yahoo.com/qatar-bid-man-utd-awaiting-172540726.html
I always look out for cautiously worded sentences in M&A related articles.

"No official updates from Sheikh Jassim's side" stands out to me - of course there aren't any official updates. There likely won't be any official communications on any of this until there's an announcement on which buyer goes through to exclusivity.
 
When do journalists like Matt Lawton and the Times ever make up shit? They are not the Sun or Daily Star.
Yes, clearly they aren't making stuff up. Neither are Reuters.

It's just reporting what their sources say.

My assumption is that British sports journalists (the top ones) have managed to get hold of sources on both sides (INEOS and 9 2), to go along with their usual club sources. Whereas Reuters have been fed something directly from Raine/Glazer advisors.
 
But their wages are high because they took players in on frees. You’re trying to separate the costs here. Overall packages would be a lot, lot closer plus a lot of that wage differential is eaten up by the front three. Two of them have been there for a while now.
I’m not saying they don’t spend money but all these posts about them being an oil state which means they’ll cheat to spend what they want and if they fail they’ll pay some more doesn’t seem to hold any weight to it when it doesn’t happen at PSG. I don’t see them frothing at the mouth throwing money at the world to overcome the embarrassment of failure. They’ve seemed to have fallen in line with ffp if anything.
They took players in on a free and still spent a fair bit on top. In 21/22 and 22/23 they spent €80m and €90m net on transfers respectively, compared to Utd’s €110m and €230m. When you factor in the wage bill, €620m and €729m, then they’ve doled out in wages & transfers half a billion euro more in 2 seasons than the 3rd most valuable football club in the world, and the PL 3rd biggest spender in the last decade. How is this anything else but financial doping to the gills? That they embarked on a shitty strategy that brought them no European glory is all the more damning.
 
its a shame Ratcliffe's entire bid reeks. A year ago I thought he might be our saviour. Instead he's desperate to get into bed with the Glazers, wants to sign up for a load of new wall street debt and doesn't want to do anything about the existing Glazer debt. Even his attempts at PR spin have been god awful

I've become so bitterly anti-Ratcliffe because he is such a fecking disappointment in every way imaginable.

Keep up, the Glazers hate Jim and he hates them. Calls them the Bellenders and keeps ordering Taco Bell to their address
 


Think this was posted this afternoon. A comment that "not all the criticism of the Glazers is fair" stuck out, but nothing too ground-breaking in this other than talk that the shareholders will be fuming if Ratcliffe wins
 
Think this was posted this afternoon. A comment that "not all the criticism of the Glazers is fair" stuck out, but nothing too ground-breaking in this other than talk that the shareholders will be fuming if Ratcliffe wins

Cheers for the summary, I was about to listen to it but couldn't be bothered - Reuters are very biased these days

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According to wiki, QSI is a subsidiary of QIA
I can't remember what journalist it was, I think it was some guy at the Athletic who said months ago they were contacted by the Qataris after writing a article which mentioned QSI was a subsidiary of QIA and they said it wasn't true.

The journalist mentioned that was when he first had the feeling their was concrete interest in United as the Qataris never bothered to make the clarification before then or attempted to try to make them out to be separate entities before.
 
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