mu4c_20le
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If we all started referring to Jassim by his full name, the forum owners are going to have to buy an additional server.
If we all started referring to Jassim by his full name, the forum owners are going to have to buy an additional server.
Yup. A very common post around these parts.No it wasn't. It pretended to be then said forget about the Qatari bid negatives and crack on.
Just as soon as he ceases to have any connections to the Qatari state.Can we start calling Jassim by his name or at least 92 Foundation, rather just ‘Qatar’.
It’s starting to feel a bit dodgy.
If Prince Harry bought an NFL team no one would say it’s ‘owned by England’, even if all his wealth is sovereign.
Agree, it was a post talking about fanbase unity ffs.
The funny thing is those who talk about morals and have that holier-than-thou approach have been the most snide in this thread.Why? probably the most rational post this evening.
NFL teams are franchises - who cares.
I'd moan about Prince Harry owning Utd.
All this talk about the Qataris and the sportswashing bullshit is just lazy writing and a very easy bandwagon to jump on. I just hope that the deal gets done asap. I for one will be celebrating hard.Can we start calling Jassim by his name or at least 92 Foundation, rather just ‘Qatar’.
It’s starting to feel a bit dodgy.
If Prince Harry bought an NFL team no one would say it’s ‘owned by England’, even if all his wealth is sovereign.
Yep, it's all a game of sources.I’ve tried keeping quiet on all this takeover talk because at the end of the day we all knew the glazers would play everyone off eachother and milk every penny they can. But feel like it’s really in the end game now.
It’s very clear too see that over the past week things have gotten serious with the media now contradicting themselves based on who their source is or what their agenda is etc.
The fact that the 92 Foundation has registered with company house today, during a time when sensationalist headlines are being published left right and center, seems to be significant in my eyes.
If you just look at the last week. We’ve had the news company owned by SJ’s own father claiming they have won. Then the company house registration today. Rio clearly knows something (isn’t he close with the Qatari’s??). And the big one for me…one of the worlds leading financial business news agencies saying Qatar is close to exclusivity.
Reuters will be fully aware that what they put out in the press has a significant impact on the financial market. They aren’t tabloids who write articles for clicks from football fans. You’re talking billions if not trillions of dollars in the market that they can influence with their news stories.
There is faaaaar too much smoke on this Qatari takeover. Imo it’s 100% happening, I wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s actually done but waiting on announcements and negotiating the completion of the purchase.
The top football journalists have clearly got a source in Ratcliffe’s camp and are reporting verbalism. I was personally terrified of the idea of SJR winning but I’m pretty calm about the whole situation now.
Once it’s announced I hope all fans can just celebrate the fact the leeches are gone rather than kick off with eachother about their political/lack of political views. At the end of the day we want what’s best for the club and in my eyes it’s Qatar. Regardless of the crap connotations that has with sports washing.
I'd be happy as Larry, sorry, Harry.NFL teams are franchises - who cares.
I'd moan about Prince Harry owning Utd.
The only thing Reuters have confirmed is that the Qataris are now the favoured bidders. Previously it was Ratcliffe.A source like reuters isn't running an exclusive to say things are exactly the same. If they're commenting, and their article says jassim's bid is viewed more favourably, its because exclusivity isn't far off. Places pick reuters and bloomberg and the BBC don't tend to run exclusives for a piece of nothing news.
Rubbish. It was a long well worded post about the news this week and how it led the guy to conclude it was qatar. His last sentence basically said so be it regardless of the crap sports washing conoctations. Its almost if you are looking for a problem with his post.No it wasn't. It pretended to be then said forget about the Qatari bid negatives and crack on.
They would if the UK government and the royal family were the same thing.So would I, but I fecking guarantee you that if William or Harry bought a PL club, no one would say ‘they’ve been bought by England’.
It’d just be viewed that specifically William / Harry are privileged feckers wanting to have a go at being in charge of a PL club.
Why isn’t Jassim treated / viewer the same way?
Aye to be fair when I wrote that I was probably being naive. Will take years for this divided fan base to sort itself out. But here’s to hoping for a new age hahaha
The point was that they are independent from each others, not that they are independent from the state. And there can be as much separation as you will have between the BBC and the Post Office.
I am not defending this but the west and the big corporations have been doing the for years. It's not just a problem of these countries.
Nah, your post was sound mate. We need that, seriously.
We’ve waited decades to get rid of the Glazers, this moment should be celebrated.
I get that some people are unhappy with certain conditions in Qatar - as am I. But why not use this as a chance to raise the volume on that and push for change / progress instead of just making snide remarks at other Utd fans online?
I got one will be rejoicing IF the Glazers are driven out and I hope many millions of other Utd fans do the same!
Well probably not mate, they may well have be separate now in a practical day to day sense or just separated for appearances but ultimately they are both Investment funds owned by the Qatari state so I'm not sure how much separation there can really be there.
This will be the case with the Times journos as well.
Ah. That's what Jacobs was on about then probably.The reports saying the company registration was done months ago are true but that was for the Nine Two Holdings entity based in Qatar. That was set up in April.
https://eservices.qfc.qa/qfcpublicregister/PublicRegisterDetails.aspx?firmid=107363
The U.K. entity being registered today on companies house is a significant move for me. Especially when you can be set up with companies house normally on the same day.
This will be the case with the Times journos as well.
I am not defending this but the west and the big corporations have been doing the for years. It's not just a problem of these countries.
Yes, clearly they aren't making stuff up. Neither are Reuters.
It's just reporting what their sources say.
My assumption is that British sports journalists (the top ones) have managed to get hold of sources on both sides (INEOS and 9 2), to go along with their usual club sources. Whereas Reuters have been fed something directly from Raine/Glazer advisors.
Nasser "If people ask me my opionion I will answer" Al-Khelafi, the PSG/QSI chairman, is also a board member at QIA, so there's that
Can't wait till Sheikh Jassim wins.
Will be brilliant just for the reactions.
Why not tweet that then?
People get the inside track on this stuff often and hold the news until it's deemed appropriate for them to say.I guess, I mean leaks do happen. Maybe it's the case that if Qatar have essentially won the person doesn't mind Rio saying, maybe the person will get into trouble, who knows
Nasser "If people ask me my opionion I will answer" Al-Khelafi, the PSG/QSI chairman, is also a board member at QIA, so there's that
Feels the most likely. I don't imagine they'll wait as long as they did with Qatar if he isn't suggesting he's interested in doing so though.Glazers are now trying to pressure SJR to up his bid again.
NFL teams are franchises - who cares.
I'd moan about Prince Harry owning Utd.
Ye wouldn't want a ginger owner !
No it wasn't. It pretended to be then said forget about the Qatari bid negatives and crack on.
They would if the UK government and the royal family were the same thing.
Your bullet point deserves a ban.
I’m not saying that at all. What I’m saying is that regardless if we get bought by Ratcliffe or Jassim, my main concern and personally what matters most to me is the future of the club I love.
I agree and respect the fact that a lot of fans will not be able to take the fact we could be owned by a state. And if they decide that’s the final straw and stop supporting united fair enough. I’m not denying the fact that yes, there are some SERIOUS concerns about how the country is run. And I’m not happy about us being associated with that. But my view is that at the end of the day that cat is out of the hat and it’s not going away. And absolutely feck all we say will sadly change that.
Would I rather be owned by Amazon or a billionaire united fan who doesn’t get in bed with the glazers.. 10000%. But sadly we don’t have that option so for me personally I’m leaning towards 92 being what’s best for the club in a sporting sense.
Understand if you don’t agree with me on that one, but if you’re still supporting united after Qatar buys united then you’re in the exact same boat as me… Pissed off we are now used as a vehicle for sports washing, but can’t let go of the love you have for your club.
Slavery?
I wasn't aware of this dark side of Qatar. I may need to change my neutral stance.