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Can we start calling Jassim by his name or at least 92 Foundation, rather just ‘Qatar’.

It’s starting to feel a bit dodgy.

If Prince Harry bought an NFL team no one would say it’s ‘owned by England’, even if all his wealth is sovereign.
Just as soon as he ceases to have any connections to the Qatari state.
 
Agree, it was a post talking about fanbase unity ffs.

Aye to be fair when I wrote that I was probably being naive. Will take years for this divided fan base to sort itself out. But here’s to hoping for a new age hahaha
 
NFL teams are franchises - who cares.

I'd moan about Prince Harry owning Utd.

So would I, but I fecking guarantee you that if William or Harry bought a PL club, no one would say ‘they’ve been bought by England’.

It’d just be viewed that specifically William / Harry are privileged feckers wanting to have a go at being in charge of a PL club.

Why isn’t Jassim treated / viewer the same way?
 
Can we start calling Jassim by his name or at least 92 Foundation, rather just ‘Qatar’.

It’s starting to feel a bit dodgy.

If Prince Harry bought an NFL team no one would say it’s ‘owned by England’, even if all his wealth is sovereign.
All this talk about the Qataris and the sportswashing bullshit is just lazy writing and a very easy bandwagon to jump on. I just hope that the deal gets done asap. I for one will be celebrating hard.
 
I’ve tried keeping quiet on all this takeover talk because at the end of the day we all knew the glazers would play everyone off eachother and milk every penny they can. But feel like it’s really in the end game now.

It’s very clear too see that over the past week things have gotten serious with the media now contradicting themselves based on who their source is or what their agenda is etc.

The fact that the 92 Foundation has registered with company house today, during a time when sensationalist headlines are being published left right and center, seems to be significant in my eyes.

If you just look at the last week. We’ve had the news company owned by SJ’s own father claiming they have won. Then the company house registration today. Rio clearly knows something (isn’t he close with the Qatari’s??). And the big one for me…one of the worlds leading financial business news agencies saying Qatar is close to exclusivity.

Reuters will be fully aware that what they put out in the press has a significant impact on the financial market. They aren’t tabloids who write articles for clicks from football fans. You’re talking billions if not trillions of dollars in the market that they can influence with their news stories.

There is faaaaar too much smoke on this Qatari takeover. Imo it’s 100% happening, I wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s actually done but waiting on announcements and negotiating the completion of the purchase.

The top football journalists have clearly got a source in Ratcliffe’s camp and are reporting verbalism. I was personally terrified of the idea of SJR winning but I’m pretty calm about the whole situation now.

Once it’s announced I hope all fans can just celebrate the fact the leeches are gone rather than kick off with eachother about their political/lack of political views. At the end of the day we want what’s best for the club and in my eyes it’s Qatar. Regardless of the crap connotations that has with sports washing.
Yep, it's all a game of sources.

It doesn't take a genius to see how the Reuters M&A Editor would be in a far better position to exchange juicy snippets of information with big cheeses at Raine than the likes of Ben Jacobs.

Another interesting point to consider is which potential buyer would the Glazers be more comfortable stringing along for such an infuriatingly long time without a successful conclusion - Jim Ratcliffe or Qatar?
 
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A source like reuters isn't running an exclusive to say things are exactly the same. If they're commenting, and their article says jassim's bid is viewed more favourably, its because exclusivity isn't far off. Places pick reuters and bloomberg and the BBC don't tend to run exclusives for a piece of nothing news.
The only thing Reuters have confirmed is that the Qataris are now the favoured bidders. Previously it was Ratcliffe.
 
No it wasn't. It pretended to be then said forget about the Qatari bid negatives and crack on.
Rubbish. It was a long well worded post about the news this week and how it led the guy to conclude it was qatar. His last sentence basically said so be it regardless of the crap sports washing conoctations. Its almost if you are looking for a problem with his post.
 
So would I, but I fecking guarantee you that if William or Harry bought a PL club, no one would say ‘they’ve been bought by England’.

It’d just be viewed that specifically William / Harry are privileged feckers wanting to have a go at being in charge of a PL club.

Why isn’t Jassim treated / viewer the same way?
They would if the UK government and the royal family were the same thing.
 
Aye to be fair when I wrote that I was probably being naive. Will take years for this divided fan base to sort itself out. But here’s to hoping for a new age hahaha

Nah, your post was sound mate. We need that, seriously.

We’ve waited decades to get rid of the Glazers, this moment should be celebrated.

I get that some people are unhappy with certain conditions in Qatar - as am I. But why not use this as a chance to raise the volume on that and push for change / progress instead of just making snide remarks at other Utd fans online?

I for one will be rejoicing IF the Glazers are driven out and I hope many millions of other Utd fans do the same!
 
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The point was that they are independent from each others, not that they are independent from the state. And there can be as much separation as you will have between the BBC and the Post Office.

Yeah fair enough I suppose mate.
 
I am not defending this but the west and the big corporations have been doing the for years. It's not just a problem of these countries.

It's a harsh reality that a lot of people won't comprehend or be willing to accept. Good to see someone else seeing it.
 
Nah, your post was sound mate. We need that, seriously.

We’ve waited decades to get rid of the Glazers, this moment should be celebrated.

I get that some people are unhappy with certain conditions in Qatar - as am I. But why not use this as a chance to raise the volume on that and push for change / progress instead of just making snide remarks at other Utd fans online?

I got one will be rejoicing IF the Glazers are driven out and I hope many millions of other Utd fans do the same!

Glazers out = good
Qatar in = bad

Both these things can be believed.

I don't like Jim either.
 
Well probably not mate, they may well have be separate now in a practical day to day sense or just separated for appearances but ultimately they are both Investment funds owned by the Qatari state so I'm not sure how much separation there can really be there.

Nasser "If people ask me my opinion I will answer" Al-Khelafi, the PSG/QSI chairman, is also a board member at QIA, so there's that :lol:
 
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The reports saying the company registration was done months ago are true but that was for the Nine Two Holdings entity based in Qatar. That was set up in April.

https://eservices.qfc.qa/qfcpublicregister/PublicRegisterDetails.aspx?firmid=107363

The U.K. entity being registered today on companies house is a significant move for me. Especially when you can be set up with companies house normally on the same day.
Ah. That's what Jacobs was on about then probably.
 
Yes, clearly they aren't making stuff up. Neither are Reuters.

It's just reporting what their sources say.

My assumption is that British sports journalists (the top ones) have managed to get hold of sources on both sides (INEOS and 9 2), to go along with their usual club sources. Whereas Reuters have been fed something directly from Raine/Glazer advisors.

Glazers are now trying to pressure SJR to up his bid again.
 
I guess, I mean leaks do happen. Maybe it's the case that if Qatar have essentially won the person doesn't mind Rio saying, maybe the person will get into trouble, who knows
People get the inside track on this stuff often and hold the news until it's deemed appropriate for them to say.

That's why end of Rangnick's season we had those long articles about the mess of a season. A collation of news and the go ahead from sources to say.

I doubt the sale is close enough for someone to risk their job for Rio to spill that.
 
Nasser "If people ask me my opionion I will answer" Al-Khelafi, the PSG/QSI chairman, is also a board member at QIA, so there's that :lol:

On that front, it's because he is the chairman of Bein Media Group.
 
No it wasn't. It pretended to be then said forget about the Qatari bid negatives and crack on.

I’m not saying that at all. What I’m saying is that regardless if we get bought by Ratcliffe or Jassim, my main concern and personally what matters most to me is the future of the club I love.

I agree and respect the fact that a lot of fans will not be able to take the fact we could be owned by a state. And if they decide that’s the final straw and stop supporting united fair enough. I’m not denying the fact that yes, there are some SERIOUS concerns about how the country is run. And I’m not happy about us being associated with that. But my view is that at the end of the day that cat is out of the hat and it’s not going away. And absolutely feck all we say will sadly change that.

Would I rather be owned by Amazon or a billionaire united fan who doesn’t get in bed with the glazers.. 10000%. But sadly we don’t have that option so for me personally I’m leaning towards 92 being what’s best for the club in a sporting sense.

Understand if you don’t agree with me on that one, but if you’re still supporting united after Qatar buys united then you’re in the exact same boat as me… Pissed off we are now used as a vehicle for sports washing, but can’t let go of the love you have for your club.
 
They would if the UK government and the royal family were the same thing.

It’s as close an analogy I could get while still just using one person.

If Prince Harry and Tony Blair’s son bought a PL team together with their combined families’ wealth, nobody would say the club had been ‘bought by England’, it’d just get viewed as two spoiled rich kids buying a play thing.

And if they did a good job of running it, lots of people would say, ‘fair play to them’.

I just don’t really get why people can’t accept that possibility with this. And at the least, call the bidder by his name or his consortium’s name.

I’m not a cheerleader for Qatar as a country btw, I think they have a lot of areas that need light shine upon them.
 


  • I’m not saying that at all. What I’m saying is that regardless if we get bought by Ratcliffe or Jassim, my main concern and personally what matters most to me is the future of the club I love.

    I agree and respect the fact that a lot of fans will not be able to take the fact we could be owned by a state. And if they decide that’s the final straw and stop supporting united fair enough. I’m not denying the fact that yes, there are some SERIOUS concerns about how the country is run. And I’m not happy about us being associated with that. But my view is that at the end of the day that cat is out of the hat and it’s not going away. And absolutely feck all we say will sadly change that.

    Would I rather be owned by Amazon or a billionaire united fan who doesn’t get in bed with the glazers.. 10000%. But sadly we don’t have that option so for me personally I’m leaning towards 92 being what’s best for the club in a sporting sense.

    Understand if you don’t agree with me on that one, but if you’re still supporting united after Qatar buys united then you’re in the exact same boat as me… Pissed off we are now used as a vehicle for sports washing, but can’t let go of the love you have for your club.
Your bullet point deserves a ban.
 
This thread has really confirmed why I hate football fans, some proper entitled babies whinging like I used to hang around with when I went to watch matches in the pub, which is part of the reason I stopped going.

I still love watching the sport, but all of ye give me a migraine on here, can only imagine what ye are like in person.
 
Slavery?

I wasn't aware of this dark side of Qatar. I may need to change my neutral stance.

You must have head your head buried in the ground during the world cup then ! Here is just one of thousands of articles on it, in addition to countless first hand reports. With respect, having a mate who went and said it was OK is feck all evidence.

Maybe you boycotted it because of the homophobia and the women being second class citizens - fair play to you!
 
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