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TheGodsInRed said:
Just because someone reports something you don't like doesn't mean it's fake or they have some imaginary agenda.

The best journo's have sources from both sides and they are saying Ineos and 92 are basically confident but haven't heard back yet.
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Not really, there’s no information to suggest Ratcliffe remains in the lead - that’s a rehash. Why would the glazers ask Khalefi to tell Jassim to up his bid if they were going to go with SJR?

in favour of Qatar there has been the formation of the holding company, Rio’s video who clearly has links inside the club and the jump in share price. Yet we’re supposed to believe all of these things mean nothing?

There is definitely an agenda against United being owned by Qatar, at least by Miguel Delaney. My belief based on what we’ve seen so far is that the English media favours SJR and I’m entitled to make that assessment.
 
The Times article literally feels like it was written a couple days ago
 
Raoul said:
Possibly among those in the know, as opposed to gleeful forum dwellers reloading pages every 5 seconds.
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You seem very keen to dismiss the most reliable source out there in this realm. Good luck.
 
Mockney said:
because my post was about that… and not the embarrassing United fans automatically jumping to their defence in an article that doesn’t mention us at all.

but good to see you’d do the same. Good little doggy
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And I chose to respond to the tweet you posted. Good to see you clocked on.
 
All this talk of Reuters and The Times....what do the muppetiers, Indykaila and the daily express have to say?
 
TheGodsInRed said:
Just because someone reports something you don't like doesn't mean it's fake or they have some imaginary agenda.

The best journo's have sources from both sides and they are saying Ineos and 92 are basically confident but haven't heard back yet.
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Well it is fake that the report from reuters has been widely dismissed because it hasn't. It was also fake when these same guys said Ratcliffe was about to be announced as the preferred bidder over a month ago.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
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I haven seen any credible reports dismissing the reuters story, never mind "widely dismissed". Really clear throughout this whole process that none of the football journos have a clue whats going on. Ornstein quiet on possibly the biggest football story in decades. He doesnt know, but unlike the other twats he doesn't report any bullshit briefings from interested parties. Jacobs is trying to create a persona for himself as some sort of guru in this area. His tweet today about the filing at companies house being months old was embarassing. And speaking of embarassing, the united fan channels have totally made fools of themselves.

Reuters are a world respected news organisation. They dont just report nonsense otherwise their credibility is blown.
 
Tiber said:
its a shame Ratcliffe's entire bid reeks. A year ago I thought he might be our saviour. Instead he's desperate to get into bed with the Glazers, wants to sign up for a load of new wall street debt and doesn't want to do anything about the existing Glazer debt. Even his attempts at PR spin have been god awful

I've become so bitterly anti-Ratcliffe because he is such a fecking disappointment in every way imaginable.
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I can see why you don't like his bid if you think any of that stuff is true.
 
Raoul said:
Possibly among those in the know, as opposed to gleeful forum dwellers reloading pages every 5 seconds.
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Yes, those in the know would definitely dismiss reuters and believe daily mail and times journalists who've been constantly wrong throughout this process
 
jm99 said:
Well it is fake that the report from reuters has been widely dismissed because it hasn't. It was also fake when these same guys said Ratcliffe was about to be announced as the preferred bidder over a month ago.
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Times and Keegan also said preferred bidder will be named this week. Everyone is all over the place because different parties are leaking different shit in their own interests. Ornstein has stated this and claimed that’s why him/the athletic have said so little as it’s very hard to know what’s true and what’s PR.
 
adedawson said:
It doesn't, that's why I linked what it does say. The point is he's an investment specialist, whos registered a company called 92 Holdings with Sheiikh Jassim. You cant make it up. Says to me he wants it, done deal.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14938922
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Yes, it's a specialist, but from quick search there is no like to a compay controlled by QIA or state company. I agree, to some it looks like he's setting things up, but, setting up a company isn't too difficult a few hundred quid online it's done. If it doesnt work out, strike it off. That is peanuts in the scheme of things

Those stating the guy works for QIA are feeding a narrative.
 
marktan said:
Qatar, Saudi, UAE, are there any other oil nations that are ruled by autocrats that could look to get in on the action and buy e.g. Liverpool or Arsenal?

Iran are more of a 'real' nation with some form of democracy so wouldn't happen. Bahrain, Kuwait? Do these have sovereign wealth funds?
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Dubai - Unlikely, despite a consortium tried before, but was chaired by a Liverpool fan then
Bahrain and Kuwait both have large sovereign wealth funds but I don't see them purchasing a football team to challenge the other Gulf-owned clubs.
 
Devil You Know said:
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If it's the same guy, he would have been made a director of a state investment Company at the age of 21. That seems unlikely.

I think what's also possible is that this is another bloke with the same name.

Same thing happens when you Google search "Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani" and it brings up results for loads of people besides the guy who's supposedly bidding for us.
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Yes, I think it’s actually a different person to the profile I posted. They just have the same name. https://utddistrict.co.uk/who-is-ab...jassims-manchester-united-partner/15/06/2023/

Maybe he works for QIA after all? Although the article doesn’t mention anything like that.
 
Utd heap said:
No I follow Utd because my family is from the city and followed it for generations. Winning stuff is a bonus.
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Fair enough but most don't. I obviously won't change my allegiance now but I only knew of United's existence because they made the CL final in 1999.

Success not only is nice but also gets you new fans because of all the eyes on the club. They may or may not be glory hunters but what is undeniable is that it increases the popularity of the club which is generally considered good.

In any case, I won't gloat if Qatar do win but I also struggle with his sport is not about winning narrative. Sport is literally about competition where the winner is not hurt (except their pride).
 
We should all accept we are hypocrites to a lesser or greater degree.

Human rights issues should be a concern for everyone but if you're going to oppose the sale of our club to them then you really need to extend those same morals to every choice you make in your life.

Our own players and those from around the world took part recently in a World Cup in an environment where LGBT rights are well known to be a problem. Did we demonstrate against the players who participated or ripped up our season tickets in disgust? We "sportswashed" the even ourselves. Nobody did it for us.

The clothes on your back, the shoes on your feet...you don't know the provenance of those items and where they were manufactured and in what conditions-why? Because we don't care enough.

We are surrounded by social injustices if we just look for them
 
Mickeza said:
Times and Keegan and said preferred bidder will be named this week.
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They both said a month ago that ratcliffe was going to be announced as preferred bidder within a week. That was peak Ratcliffe hysteria on here, when jassim and his guys were called amateurs that shouldn't have bothered
 
BluesJr said:
You seem very keen to dismiss the most reliable source out there in this realm. Good luck.
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To be fair AFP are as reliable and they are denying it, we just need AP's take.
 
Either The Times knows something the rest don't or they're just Ratcliffe's mouthpiece.
 
jm99 said:
When do reuters make things up ffs? They're clearly far more trusted than these British journalists
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Journalists aren't infallible. They do occasionally jump the gun requiring later retractions, or else the situation in the story they are covering is so fluid that the result ends up being different from what was originally reported. This is why you wait for further confirmation.
 
Raoul said:
Possibly among those in the know, as opposed to gleeful forum dwellers reloading pages every 5 seconds.
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I trust Reuters in any story over The Times. Even if that story was what is happening in the News UK offices
 
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