It takes balls to walk away from something you love due to principles. Respect to any fan who can do this.
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So there's % of your money you can contribute before you are judged morally.
So the richer you are the more moral wriggle room you have.
Beautiful.
Bollocks. If Hitler bought United would you continue supporting?
I’d like to think he wouldn’t pass the fit and proper test.
plus he’s dead so we’re safe..for now
It's very tricky. I started supporting United as a very young kid. Most of what kept me hooked and increased my love for the game, apart from the actual games, has changed hugely. Ownership and the motives for it is a huge change. So owners might just be the tipping point.
This debate is getting ridiculous just make your choice and let others make theirs. So much divide and toxicity, you don’t see this with City Newcastle PSG I think once the ownership has been decided people can decide what they want to do. Most people have read the pros and cons of an ME ownership by now but we’re just regurgitating the same information.Christ. Stupid take. One of the worst, most dense and poorly thought out takes in this forums history and that's saying something. Your post is impressively stupid and I am impressed.
"Anyone who stops supporting because the club is taken over by evil murdering bastards isn't a real fan". The opposite is true
If it was a percentage then you would have the same wriggle room as everyone else
To be fair, I'd be surprised if anyone who has amassed a large sum of money, enough to buy a football club the size of Manchester United, doesn't have some skeletons in their closet. It's just which 'evil' you are comfortable with owning our football club.
I don't want our club to be part of the next sportswashing project as much as the next fan, but I don't know if it would be enough to end my support of the club totally. Though I totally respect anyone that sees it as absolutely unpalatable to them to support the club under that type of ownership.
I feel when push comes to shove, most people will eventually come to terms with it and continue to watch the games.
I don't want our club to be part of the next sportswashing project as much as the next fan, but I don't know if it would be enough to end my support of the club totally. Though I totally respect anyone that sees it as absolutely unpalatable to them to support the club under that type of ownership.
I feel when push comes to shove, most people will eventually come to terms with it and continue to watch the games.
well it looks like the new owners are going to have a similarly questionable human rights record, unfortunately. In general I don't give much money to the club these days, but I go to 5-10 games a year with my brother and father. I would find it a real shame to have to stop that tradition now because I don't want to support the new owners financially
Would these fans also walk away if Saudi sponsored our shirts this season?
If they are so against sports washing you would think you would have stopped watching the premier league long ago
I'm actually a racist, sexist, transphobic homophobe. Luckily, I have no money and donate to none of these causes so I am still going to heaven
There are figurative and literal skeletons . Exploiting labour is morally reprehensible; killing journalists is arguably worse.
I get this in a way. It's almost like the ultimate cheat code a club of Utd's size and fanbase being state owned. We would be literally unshackled and able to do almost anything transfers, commercially and sports science etc. We would be unstoppable!
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You supported the funders of an apartheid state for 15 years. give overI'm actually a racist, sexist, transphobic homophobe. Luckily, I have no money and donate to none of these causes so I am still going to heaven
So there's like a quantity of money from dodgy streams that puts you off? Like over 5% or 20% of club income?
You know what, that probably wasn't the best phrase to use and was no way intentional
Wasn't it the Saudis that were accused of killing journalists? Qatar weren't involved in that were they? Not saying that absolves them of the other stuff btw.
I am pro Palestine, as most of the site are. You're not as enlightened as you think you are taking this point of view. It's just edgy whataboutism innit.
No probably not. Ownership is clearly a step too far for some. But yeah the whole game went to the dogs ages ago.
You have any links to back all this up?
You absolutely should if the owners of the club are using it to enable them to do sufficiently horrible things. Your support should never be unconditional, there have to be some places you draw a line and say "this club no longer represents me well enough to earn my support". I'm not going to judge you or tell you where that line is for you, but it absolutely should exist somewhere.
I can't believe you think you are in a position to call someone edgy. whataboutism...the latest attack line from the woke elite
Qatar owners incoming then it looks like. Beckham probably involved too
When the club is directly owned and controlled by a state a line has clearly been crossed, whether you think that's worth ceasing your support or not there's absolutely zero chance you do not see that.
Not sure I agree completely, I think City's first Premier League title win had the same effusive reaction as Liverpool's first one. It makes sense when City's more recent title wins have been less than enthusiastic, we saw the same thing when Fergie was winning 3 in a row.
You know what, that probably wasn't the best phrase to use and was no way intentional
Wasn't it the Saudis that were accused of killing journalists? Qatar weren't involved in that were they? Not saying that absolves them of the other stuff btw.
Totally, I'm just saying there are leveis and tipping points. We all do these juggling acts of acceptibility in our heads all the time.
So if Saudi or Qatar only pumped in 40% of revenue it would be fine? Then you can support and clap happily with no guilt?
I wouldn't say that state owned clubs are bought to enable said states to do horrific things. If anything they buy these clubs to paint themselves in a better light and to increase their presence on the global stage. They'd still do the horrible things they do regardless of owning a club or not, unfortunately.
Stop saying woke elite, it makes you seem insane, or at least typing frantically in a MAGA cap.
staff member (woke elite) upset at me saying woke elite...just can't make it up
You won't really be supporting a state financially by going to games/buying kits.
They will be out 6-7 billion from the get-go and unlike sane owners won't care about profits.
Sportwashing on the other hand is a problem.
They will be out 6-7 billion from the get-go and unlike sane owners won't care about profits.
Sportwashing on the other hand is a problem.
What does woke elite even mean?
What would owning United enable them to do that they’re not doing already?
United are a huge sporting club but football clubs aren’t that big in a real business sense. Don’t get me wrong, I’d hate oil money but it’s not because of the owners. I’ve already learned to love United in spite of the owners but if the billions that would ruin us as a sporting medium.
Mate don't ask those questions on here. just saying you are English on here will have you banned and thrown in jail
I'm not upset, or elite, you're just lowering the standard of debate. There are proper arguments against my liberal right-on stances, but silly, empty made up catchphrases aren't them..
Them aliens off Halo, innit?
Putting aside the human rights problems with Qatar, I am wary of how they've 'run' PSG.
I'd prefer someone with less money but more sense.
I'd prefer someone with less money but more sense.
Well the word elite has been seriously damaged in this thread. Or else I'm selling the mods short.
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Is there any connection to the Saudi tourist board sponsorship story being binned and Dúbravka recall?
What I mean to say, and apologies if this has already been mentioned in here, is there any possible connection with Qatar being involved with the purchase? I understand the relationship between Qatar and The Saudis and Abu Dhabi is pretty shit since 2017ish?
Qatar buying United when Saudi and Abu Dhabi are heavily invested in the prem would be quite significant no?
What I mean to say, and apologies if this has already been mentioned in here, is there any possible connection with Qatar being involved with the purchase? I understand the relationship between Qatar and The Saudis and Abu Dhabi is pretty shit since 2017ish?
Qatar buying United when Saudi and Abu Dhabi are heavily invested in the prem would be quite significant no?
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