Club Sale | It’s done!

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Well, at least 5th also gets you CL next season. Most likely at least.
 
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If Qatar start doing a new bid every two minutes how minutes will it take before they actually bid higher than INEOS at their current rate of improvement? An interesting Math riddle.
Can we calculate at 1 penny increments?
 
This is going to ruin ETH summer plans to get a better squad isn't it? Bad feeling about it.
I don't think so. It's in everybody's interest (Glazers, INEOS, Qatar) to have the team as good as possible.
 
Which makes one wonder, is it just the glazers trying to turn the current £120 offer to £140, by using the £130 future offer as leverage?
Now we’ve finally got to the exact sweet spot where the Greedy Goblins say yes , they want at least £5.5/5.6bn, if Qatari’s have flown in which I doubt as no one knows if the Glazer are even in the UK one week after the Fa Cup Final, if they are both in London today this is a shakedown and we will get a result one way or another.


Either SJ calls the Glazers bluff and he folds or the Glazers call his bluff and they fold and offer an increased bid of £5.5-5.6bn after all investments promised. Which is £800m extra ?

So total bid would be £6.4bn or $8bn and there’s your headline. “United Sold for $8bn rising to $9.25bn

This would mean that the bid to take control of the Glazer Shares would be £5.5bn minus the debt of £535m so the Glazers would receive $31 per share for 113m B shares $3.5 (£2.8bn) billion plus another $2.7bn/£2.2bn Legacy Paymebt for relinquishing control of assets, player squad, Land and offices owned by the club, Future Broadcasting and Merchandising deals.

This would be well over Forbes $6bn valuation, giving the Glazers right now over $6bn and they would also know that the normal A shares currently at $18 would be probably sore to $25 in the next few months meaning that the remaining 6.9 million A shares the Glazers own would result in another windfall of $172m paid from the remaining $1.25bn to delist from the NYSE.

That means if a bid of £5.5bn came in, I’d would severely doubt that they would turn down over $6.3bn between the 6 of them right now they prefer SJR but it’s so messy
I just don’t think SJ will make that bid because they already see the investment as hugely overpriced considering the debt!
 
It’s been said so many fecking times that the Glazers want to stay or aren’t 100% sure about selling. Options are a fairly standard financial instrument. A lot of people make a lot of money with them. It’s just really not as simple as “all of your money now or some later”.
The point I am making is that it’s INEOS PR to say that the Glazers are only here for 3 years with that deal. It’s quite obvious if you look at it logically that if they take that deal they are very much in it for the longer term. How is that going to go down in 3 years when fans find they are in fact staying?

What about when they start expecting dividends?
 
I dont think anyone understands what a deadline means.. they all seem to ignore deadlines and this is now becoming a joke.

I’m not sure why people are outraged at this tweet.

it was clear a few days ago what their position was. Here’s our bid, and after Friday it’s still on the table BUT we won’t be changing it.

this latest tweet isn’t any update at all.
 
The first sports team Ineos ever bought incidentally happened to be in football, when it bought Swiss Super League team FC Lausanne-Sport in 2017. Ratcliffe's first season owning the club unfortunately ended in relegation.

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Doesn't exactly tell the full story. They took over half way into the season, in which they were already bottom of the league.
 
The point I am making is that it’s INEOS PR to say that the Glazers are only here for 3 years with that deal. It’s quite obvious if you look at it logically that if they take that deal they are very much in it for the longer term. How is that going to go down in 3 years when fans find they are in fact staying?

What about when they start expecting dividends?
The Glazers continued shares are said to be in the form of a put option. Most commonly put options are excised at strike price upon expiration. Terms for that would be set at sale. Parties can re-negotiate them, but that’s usually the most common things that happen upon expiration.
 
The sale is being conducted in the same slow, ponderous and uncertain manner in which we've handled transfers since the days of Moyes. At least transfer windows have hard deadlines, whereas this can drag on forever
 
You must be living under a rock if you think the Glazers have any interest in the team.
The more competitive it is the more they can ask for. Why do you think they allowed us to spend so much last summer?
 
I can understand the Qataris to a certain extent, above a certain amount it gets uneconomical to buy the club even if you’re not doing it strictly for the money.

The Saudis no doubt did the same assessment - do we buy Utd or Arsenal for £5-6bn, or Newcastle for £300m and spend the remaining £4bn+ on transfers, stadium etc and make them as big as the others.
 
Amazing. If you say something is the take it or leave it, we will walk away or else bid... then you kind of have to follow through on that. Assuming that was the case (and it's not just media waffle) then credibility is in the toilet now for the Qatar bid if they are rowing back on that. Bluff called, bluff failed, now bend over because Raine & the Glazer boys are on their way, yeehaw. Impressively poor power play on their part.
 
The more competitive it is the more they can ask for. Why do you think they allowed us to spend so much last summer?

Erm... its obvious, every time we are not in CL we spend, then we get CL footy and don't spend. It's actually a trend that is happening for 10 years.

We were not competitive when they announced the sale and they wanted 6bn.. since then we have won a trophy and the price is the same..

The Glazers do not care about how competitive United are.
 
A stadium could be turned around in that time. As soon as a spade is in the ground or a planning application is accepted for a new stadium then it could add value. Training ground could be built in much less time.
More importantly Uefa allow any stadium investment as a separate entry to FFP so new owners could effectively spend what they want. spurs currently get the same sort of match day revenue as United with a stadium that hosts 14,000 less.

Ideally if united built a separate 100,000 state of The art stadium with similar merchandising and revenue streams to spurs, United could easily generate yearly Matchday revenues of £170m which would be unrivalled in world football.

We wouldn’t even need to close Old Trafford so we would continue to receive current matchday revenue of £110m while the new stadium is built on the same plot of land now owned by new owners.
 
Why are some folks reacting as if Jamie Jackson has reported anything new? All he said was the final bid will "remain live" even if the Glazers fail to respond by the deadline. Mike Keegan already said that. The whole point of this deadline was for negotiations on the current bid, not the validity of the bid. The Guardian must be trying to hit their quota of United takeover articles for the week.

The only meaningful bit I took from Jackson's article is mention that INEOS do not believe a deal is imminent.
 
Erm... its obvious, every time we are not in CL we spend, then we get CL footy and don't spend. It's actually a trend that is happening for 10 years.

We were not competitive when they announced the sale and they wanted 6bn.. since then we have won a trophy and the price is the same..

The Glazers do not care about how competitive United are.
Competitive enough for the club to make money or in this case, command a big fee. IMO the sale was always on their mind so keeping the club at a certain minimum level was always important.
 
I think the NFL thing is a myth. I don’t think the owners have any say where the games are played.
SJ is a member of the royal family, Even the Emir will be aware of the current 92 Foundation bid and unlike the Glazers they are men of their word, if they say that they will allow Tampa Bucaneers to host games in Qatar in their newly built air conditioned Stadiums for the World Cup, there are enough Us EX pats and Military in the Middle East to make that a profitable option for all parties.
 
Question:
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I'm completely missing the joke, if there is one.:confused:
Most people don't know that it's the same "god" for the big 3 Abrahamic religions, including religious people, so god, allah are seen as different entities. This is relevant to the thread :wenger:
 
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