True. When it comes to the likes of UAE, money is the unofficial religion. Just see the development in Abu Dhabi and especially Dubai these past decades.
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True. When it comes to the likes of UAE, money is the unofficial religion. Just see the development in Abu Dhabi and especially Dubai these past decades.
There have been many people talking about the takeover and the cost of building a new ground or renovating Old Trafford and modernising Carrington with regards to the ROI and costs involved.
I feel that it will be a new ground beside the current ground but the cost will be circa £2bn.
The new Spurs ground has been costed at £1bn and I think they kept one of the stands, add to that the increasing costs of materials etc, and I feel that a new ground would be a capacity of about 85,000.
Now many have said that it doesn't make sense for anyone wanting a return on investment, however, while United have the largest match day revenue in the league, this is due to having the largest capacity, and per person spend is significantly lower than quite a few other clubs.
A new ground with a capacity of 85,000 would have 20,000 corporate seats at differing price ranges, say £150 a ticket for a package in a lounge behind the goal with complimentary tea, coffee or soft drink, programme, and a buffet lunch up to a box for 12 people with free bar, top notch cuisine on the halfway line for £5,000, which will significantly increase match day revenue.
The corporate lounges can then be utilised on non match days for renting out for business seminars, training courses etc further increasing revenue and making use of the kitchen facilities.
Larger concourses will enable marketing to encourage fans to enter the ground earlier, or stay after the game for a pint to allow the crowds to disperse somewhat and with safe standing now being allowed, a stand behind one goal with "rail seating - standing" with a capacity of about 10,000 with corporate above and ordinary seating above that again can then be sold with about 8,000 as season tickets averaging about £30 a ticket to an outrage the singing section that provide the atmosphere.
Some of the corporate boxes could be sold on a ten year deal to offset some of the initial build costs, and naming rights could also be sold which would bring in a significant amount of dosh, so with the increase in capacity could quite easily be nearly doubled and increased usage on non match days bringing in another significant source of income, the new ground I don't believe would put off investors, but would be seen as a way to increase revenue streams.
I feel that it will be a new ground beside the current ground but the cost will be circa £2bn.
The new Spurs ground has been costed at £1bn and I think they kept one of the stands, add to that the increasing costs of materials etc, and I feel that a new ground would be a capacity of about 85,000.
Now many have said that it doesn't make sense for anyone wanting a return on investment, however, while United have the largest match day revenue in the league, this is due to having the largest capacity, and per person spend is significantly lower than quite a few other clubs.
A new ground with a capacity of 85,000 would have 20,000 corporate seats at differing price ranges, say £150 a ticket for a package in a lounge behind the goal with complimentary tea, coffee or soft drink, programme, and a buffet lunch up to a box for 12 people with free bar, top notch cuisine on the halfway line for £5,000, which will significantly increase match day revenue.
The corporate lounges can then be utilised on non match days for renting out for business seminars, training courses etc further increasing revenue and making use of the kitchen facilities.
Larger concourses will enable marketing to encourage fans to enter the ground earlier, or stay after the game for a pint to allow the crowds to disperse somewhat and with safe standing now being allowed, a stand behind one goal with "rail seating - standing" with a capacity of about 10,000 with corporate above and ordinary seating above that again can then be sold with about 8,000 as season tickets averaging about £30 a ticket to an outrage the singing section that provide the atmosphere.
Some of the corporate boxes could be sold on a ten year deal to offset some of the initial build costs, and naming rights could also be sold which would bring in a significant amount of dosh, so with the increase in capacity could quite easily be nearly doubled and increased usage on non match days bringing in another significant source of income, the new ground I don't believe would put off investors, but would be seen as a way to increase revenue streams.
After all this time it still feels surreal that we might actually be near the end of the Glazer tunnel. I still have a hard time believing it sometimes.
It will feel amazing the day they’re finally gone.
It will feel amazing the day they’re finally gone.
Yeah, yeah, was just about to mention the Sunderland group, the Mackems love investing in Dubai, “howay the Arabs” an’ all that.
The patient type. The end is coming and thank goodness it is.
Agree. It did sound like we are getting that type of ownership.
Nearly there.
Q1 For Man Utd Ends Sept 30th each year. Q1 results have already been reported. Q1 of a calendar year is Q3 of Man Utd'S reporting year.
Yeah...that probably doesn't help.
Confirms his comments were nothing new (as was pretty obvious).
Felix bit was.
I was with you all the way up to ‘Nearly there’
What next? When they next mention 3pm kickoff, does it mean local or GMT?
Yeah, not groundbreaking news from
Ornstein confirms Q1 of 2023, which is between Jan - March.
Stw2023 really hasn't a clue.
Ornstein confirms Q1 of 2023, which is between Jan - March.
Stw2023 really hasn't a clue.
He's just wumming. Not sure why everyone took the bait. Its not like we are paid to write by the words here.
Did they confirm whether it was Q1 on earth or could it be on Neptune?
That's a really good point, I never really thought about it. Will be interesting how they spin it if the Arabs end up buying us.
I doubt if it would happen. Otherwise what's next? Ban alcohol sold at OT? Only halal food sold on the premises of OT or served at Carrington?
They own stakes in Citibank, BOA which aren't exactly following any shariah laws.
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They won't change anything
Hope Old Trafford will stay Old Trafford.
What I really hope is that some trigger-happy new owners looking to make their mark don't come and off ETH in favour of some odd established name like err.. Fabio Cappello 
Yeah, havent think of it. Its all good and well when owners give money but I hope they wont be some owners like Abranovich or Chelsea owner (looks like that for now) who'll try to bin ETH at the 1st opportunity.What I really hope is that some trigger-happy new owners looking to make their mark don't come and off ETH in favour of some odd established name like err.. Fabio Cappello
What I really hope is that some trigger-happy new owners looking to make their mark don't come and off ETH in favour of some odd established name like err.. Fabio Cappello
Everyone wants to make a new splash whenever they come in. It wouldn't surprise me one bit. Or he removes Arnold/Murtough and makes ETH's life more difficult by bringing in a name brand, who has proven himself at the highest level. Wouldnt Zidane, a (Muslim) manager would be aligned with their vision if it was some hardcore ME investment fund? It wouldn't be too far-fetch.
Abromovich, I would say has been the best owner in the last 20 years. We would be so lucky.
Didn't he lose like £ 2 million a week to keep Chelsea funded for the nearly 20 years he owned the club? How can you complain about that -- he put his money where his mouth is. Made a historically cup team/club to a perennial winner.
Maybe not the best example yeah. In any case I hope they wont meddle with manager's work too much or at all.
It feels so good and it pisses me off big time as it reminds me how shit they were, what they did to the club, how much our financials suffered, how much money they sucked out of the club. And now, the make billions out of it. Let's move on to new things soon with hopefully serious and good owners
Thats what you have to give the Glazers credit for, they rarely interfered -- their problem had been to trust the wrong person, Woodward. That's why I can see the new owners putting in their own person and Arnold and maybe Murtough gets removed.
I'm not too sure they were wumming. The posters previous posts are somewhat "lazy" at best.
To be honest, when has that ever happened?What I really hope is that some trigger-happy new owners looking to make their mark don't come and off ETH in favour of some odd established name like err.. Fabio Cappello
Bruce was kept on for a bit if time before being off’d as was Tuchel. As long as there’s no losing run we’ll be fine.
Worst possible situation is to be acquired by another financial buyer just looking for medium term return. The club is in need of someone who genuinely is in it for the very long term and is willing to sink the mammoth amount of money required into the club to get it back to where it used to be. So whether its some middle eastern country or a british man, the most important thing is that the new owner prioritises on-pitch success and sees it as the driver of off-pitch success. Anything else and we will fall further behind our British and European peers.
Everyone has a losing run, even Fergie in the early years. The question is whether the existing manager has the trust of people who didn't hire him.
Better question would be, when have new owners especially sugar daddies come in and stick with the manager for years? ETH is building a project that may not bear fruit for 1-2 years. If we miss out on top 4 I can that being used as an excuse to get rid.
The Glazers didn’t need to interfere. They bought the club for a couple of hundred million and mortgaged the rest, they took way more out than
They paid and never paid off that debt. Fergie protected them for years by being an amazing manager and constantly winning things, it’s crazy he won the last title with the team he had.
If the Glazers walk away with 6BN having already had a billion out, that’s some investment.
They didn’t need us to be the best in Europe as we financially always achieved off the pitch and even though us fans don’t like it, Woodward done a dream job financially for the Glazers.
... especially if he doesn't have his 'shields' or 'protectors' in Arnold/Murtough who hired him. The problem is the size of the deal -- you would expect to have some quick wins for this sort of price.
Is a cup silverware enough to keep the top management in place? I cant see us winning the league for another 3-4 years. Pep looks like he will stay about few years; Arteta is building something, much to my surprise.
You just have to look at Arteta as a gauge. They have spent big the past couple of seasons but had the patience to stick with him despite two consecutive 8th-place finishings.
Will a person who has spent £ 5 billion be wiling to wait that long? It becomes an ego problem. He would have to face the humiliation of his peers for spending that amount for some minor silverware at best.
Thats true. They were winners from Day One. So they could afford to be hands-off. But when you spend £5 billion I bet the new owners will be standing pitch-side watching ETH train and sitting in meetings everyday.
No it doesn't, club of this stature is prestigious and priced possession , person who got that kind of money would be motivated by success on the pitch rather than wait for his return over short period of time.
How come Liverpool can spend money despite being for sale and we can't? Another Glazer's excuse?
Liverpool have a net spend of 56m this summer. Ours is 227m.
Years and years of utter mismanagement eventually caught up. Ironically, this will rid us out of them so i can take one bad transfer window if it means it will be their last.
They only spent £70m in the summer I think. We spent over £200m. We literally have nothing in our bank currently.
The other reason is that their owners are competent, and the Glazers are a disgrace.
When there’s potentially half a billion to be made if we change our name to the Crypto arena? That name will change quicker than the new paint drys or the renovations get finished.
Call me skeptical but I don’t think Liverpool are serious about selling. I think that’s the only notion that appeases fans. They can’t sack Klopp, they can’t spend their way back into the top 2, if they tentatively put the club up for sale and sell somewhere in the next couple of years everyone’s happy.
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