Club Sale | It’s done!
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well its different. The Glazers needed Woodward as was a genius in terms of navigating around debt interest and bringing in sponsors. SJR really doesn't need the likes of Brailsford and Bob Ratcliffe. God knows why he keep them around despite their many failures. It reminds me of that song of the Hollies. He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother
He's the last of the famous, International play boys.
Some girls are bigger than others, since it's like that on here.
No, not really. For future seasons it would expand opportunities a bit because of reduced interest payments.
So just to be clear, you're of the view that the West should simply abandon the concept of morality in relation to other countries? I presume you think the West have no right to take a stance on Russia either if you follow the chain of logic in your argument.
Not just here, but in many threads I see the odd argument that could be phrased as follows
Some people have previously committed murder. Some were convicted and some were never caught. As such, because some murderers are never brought to justice, we should not seek to condemn nor prosecute other murderers who may come to light.
It's a very odd argument and I guess it relates to whataboutery
Some people have previously committed murder. Some were convicted and some were never caught. As such, because some murderers are never brought to justice, we should not seek to condemn nor prosecute other murderers who may come to light.
It's a very odd argument and I guess it relates to whataboutery
Newcastle had a net spend of 0-50m in the last 5 years prior to the take over. it was 130m and 170m since. They haven't went mental but there was a significant uptick.
This is the way
Are there any Western countries trying to buy United? Pointless discussion that Qatar apologists bring up every day.
Handsome Red Devils
All the clubs are crammed with things
Eager to be sold
I know what clubs are for
And I'd like to help myself
You ask me the price
But then ask for some more!
And I would like to bid
What I think you're asking for
You handsome Red Devils
Oh, you handsome Red Devils
Let me get my hands
On some FFP bans
And let me clear your debt
Am I making you wet?
I say, I say, I say
Joel cracks the whip
And Jim skips
But he deserves it
He deserves it, deserves it, deserves it
A club of this price
Is worth much more than Nice
I think you can help us get an even bigger slice
Oh, you handsome Red Devils
And when we're in your Claridge’s room
Who will buyout whom?
When we're in your Claridge’s room
Who will buyout whom ?
You handsome Red Devils
Oh, let me get my hands
On some FFP bans
And let me clear your debt
Am I making you wet?
I say, I say, I say
There's more to life than being crooks, you know
But not much more
Oh, there's more to life than being crooks, you know
But not much more, not much more
Oh, you handsome Red Devils
Oh, you handsome Red Devils
Ow
Ironically close to the Human Rights Act 1998
(before somebody says it doesn't say that, obviously not, but what it does say (paraphrasing and making it relevant for this) is that is you have evidence that 2 people have committed identical crimes you must prosecute both or neither)
Yeah but it is pronounced Niece,
TBH I am always baffled when people post things like this, but then I loathe poetry with a passion
Agreed, when the Glazers finally leave there should be parties in the streets whether it’s SJ or SJR.
If the Glazers don’t leave then it should prompt the biggest sports team boycott the world has ever seen.
So what difference does it make?
Jimmy is officially, very rich. Or rather, he has a lot of assets:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-takeover-jim-ratcliffe-30019859
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-takeover-jim-ratcliffe-30019859
Zed 101
He was wrong'un
He loathed poetry with a passion
And was no fun
Posting on RedCafe
He had his say
Today, is a big day
And when Ineos is finally sold he’d be the richest individual owner in world football?
Agreed. The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
That is why I said, a week ago or so, that we should be very worried about someone who puts so much faith in Brailsford. The report into drug doping of his team only failed because of them exploiting a loophole, despite crossing an 'ethical line'. I also said he loves his progression charts, which is very worrying when you consider he thinks Potter should have the French job.
If this is the bloke you want in control of our team, then well and good to you. Get used to the word 'triamcinolene' lads.
And still they are doing better than the City owners team in Ligue 1. Very interesting indeed.
Miss them good ol days of colonialism when the west always had the moral high ground over those barbarous savages
Barbarism begins at home.
City have more than 1 team doing really well winning trophies, last i checked Nice are 10th, the austrian team is in 2nd division having been relegated twice under ineos ownership. Interesting indeed.
And the City owners french team will play in Ligue 2 next season after getting relegated from Ligue 1.
Western liberalism is under more pressure than in quite some time, and it's not about moral, it's about you wanting to live a free life or not, e.g. marry who ever you want, take what ever education you want, start what ever business you want and in general choose your own way of living. If you want to live in a country when you are not regarded as a free individual, but instead the property of the state (i.e. the dictator running the state), I suggest you try that for a while.
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Sounds like a cool dude, weird there's not more about him in this thread
West is one of the biggest roadblocks standing in the way of this freedom you lot keep harping on about, anytime any country with resources west wants decides it wants some of that freedom, there's west spreading its democracy to make sure its the right kind of rule of law that governs those countries and funny enough its never a liberal freedom loving independent person who ends up in power post the western freedom spread, just look at likes of afghanistan and iran. Its amazing how anyone who wants qatar as owner because they thinks thats best for the club is somehow soulless and amoral.
Atleast anyone wanting qatar can correctly claim they have no control over who gets to own man utd, what's the western citizen's excuse over what its governments do?
I’m with you pal 100% #HateGlazers LoveUnited we just need them out it makes no odds if the new owner has £30 billion or £300 billion all that matters is the Glazers Go!
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I mean they can vote the government out which allowed ME countries to invest (UK got a ton of investments from ME thru last few decades). They are free so they can voice their opinions & chose to legislate their way.
in short, happy to take ME money for stores, RE developments etc, but you cant touch our football teams. wait... you can touch the untouchables like City, Newcastle but cant buy Manchester.
I agree with everyone who is concerned about human rights & environment. but it has to be a way of life.
Are you aware how many westerners are living in Gulf states? Are you aware how many are desperately trying to go and live there? I hate to break it to you. But people there are free and safe. People really need to stop embarrassing themselves speaking about countries they couldn’t even point on a map, yet alone visited/lived and be a position to explain the differences amongst each.
Also you might think we’re free here in the west. Try being a journalist who writes about war crimes or leaked information that exposes criminality.
https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/19/...rdian-hard-drives-in-misguided-effort-to-stop
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow
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Exactly. Difficult to say, although conflicts like Vietnam is perhaps slightly different in its origins.
Thanks.
Right now you'd be being monitored in the regions you hold up as the alternative and if you criticised them you'd know about it. If you could access this forum at all that is. And you can't blame the West entirely for the Iran regime, same as you can't blame it for Erdogan right now. If democracy is stamped out it's down to many factors.
On your final point, none of us has any control over who owns United, as it isn't a democratic process, further proving the point. You also must have missed the Iraq war protests. Democracy isn't perfect, but at least there's a chance to protest and to vote them out. Way better than nothing that's for sure.
What morality shall we abandon? The one that has killed perhaps a million Muslim civilians, many children, in Iraq? The one that creates the vacuum of government that enabled Isis to wreck havoc all over the Levantine and beyond? The one that killed Gadaffi? When Putin invaded Ukraine everyone went mental but Saudi Arabia can wage war on Jemen year after year without any of us shouting from our moral high ground.
Without mentioning all the examples since more or less the Versailles peace of 1919, this idea that we have the right, and the capability, to dictate how other countries shall live their lives have creates so many problems and tragedies.
The West should spread its ideas of capitalism and trade to the rest of the world. Nothing else.
Amnesty International is a western offspring.
From the end of colonialism and imperialism until the end of WW1 there was a time when the West stood for something good, I think. The economic development of the UK during the 19th century was insane.
What's Sportico? Doesn't ring a bell.
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