He’s got £30 billion right now pal, which means he’s not skint, we all believed Abrahamovic worth £10bn could compete with City, if he’s as much of a fan as he says then he will be at every game which is what we want to see, I want to see our owner at every home game and sone away games, I don’t think SJ will visit too many times, I say this as someone who is completely neutral on the whole thing, if he hadn’t fudged Nice, most united fans would be creaming their pants at SJR but he has so if he gets United hopefully as a CL team he needs to make them a team competing to win the CL, that’s his mandate ok.
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Did Chelsea ever compete with City? I know they won a title when the league was at a low but that wasn’t against this City and how it’s grown
Sale will be announced soon.
Yep, I think 2025 should be good.
How soon is now?
Announcing it before Wembley would be nice but I don't think that will happen. That will bruise their ego.
Your right, but his assets are complicated. There is the asset rich cash poor equation,, obviously at a different level to us normal plebs. He is a great businessman, he does the hard stuff. Question is can the fan base endure a weekly party night at City for the next few years. As I previously said, either way United will benefit, United won't be going for the Wout option, more a question of truly competing today or wait a little longer. Obviously, we have no choice but we have to prepare our minds for it.
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They're probably waiting until after the FA Cup final so they have a chance of securing the end of their tenure with an extra trophy. They will be shameless enough to present all the silverware won despite their ownership as their own achievements.
pretty sure they're waiting for Qatar to offer more money
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And the heir (Al Thani)
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While I do agree with doing the best for Manchester United (they don’t care obviously), doing deals like this is not something that will happen fast. In my experience things tend to be very slow and difficult. Hopefully it will come together soon.
That’s CAF conspiracy theories for you!
The Glazers are vermin and need to be gone
Just like everybody else wants
They beat this city in a champions league 2 years ago, they competed, had Abrahamovic stayed they would still be competing, my point it’s not always the money, it’s who drives the club from the top, Chelsea won Europa league and Champions league with interim managers, they won 5 PL titles with 3 managers in 4 different phases, they won FA Cups or got beat on pens on domestic finals, they were competitive, nobody ever beat them out if site like some of our results this year. Right now they are not right because allowing Americans into the EPL with their crazy ideas of an all star North vs South Game and no relegation or promotion is pure blasphemy.
The City era started in 2008 and they won 2 CL and 3PL in that 15 year period, we won 3PL and 1 CL in that period with our last top level win being 2013 and Chelsea’s being 2021, Liverpool 3 CL finals, 1CL win, 1 PL, two finishes of 90 points plus which in any other era would win 2 additional PL. Klopp won everything at Liverpool so you can compete with City, they are the best they’ve ever been this year, no arguments but if you invest enough money in the right areas you can compete.
The reality we’ve not had a Tuchel or a Klopp until this season and the jury is still out whether ETH belongs in that absolute Top Elite Manager Bracket with ; Pep, Tuchel, Zidane, Klopp and Ancelotti or is he in the bracket just below with ; Pochetino, Conte , Naigelsman, Xavi, Mourinho, Spalleti, Allegri, Enrique.
The caveat here is Mourinho or Xavi could both jump up into that top bracket with a CL win and Mourinho at PSG would be dangerous, even though his football is so dire!
Everyone like Solekol seems to forget that the most recent major takeover happened really quickly due to some rather exceptional circumstances!
Multi-billion pound takeovers take time.
Multi-billion pound takeovers take time.
Hypothetically, he’s obviously an Anglophile which might be a bad thing however if the club needed £200m one summer he is liquid cash rich enough, that he could easily go do that if he wanted to, compare that to the Goblins penny pinching every summer transfer window just so they can get their dividends !
Goblins. I love it. Although it's a bit harsh on goblins to be fair.Then why has he moved to Monaco? Is it like supporting United while watching/trying to buy Chelsea?
I've seen a few say this but what does a 'dignified' sale look like? Bending over and accepting less money than you think you can get for your asset?
I think I'd rather be called 'undignified' by those with alterior motives and interests, and get the best price for my asset in the end.
Also 6 months isn't a long time for the takeover of a 5-6b asset, it's actually quite compressed or 'dignified' (if you insist on using the bizarre dignified/undignified terminology). It would typically take at least 12 months.
He is basically Qatar’s mouthpiece so of course he’s going to say this. The longer this goes, the more likely it is that Qatar overpay and meet the asking price so it is in the leeches interest to delay.
In all honesty this whole thing is a lot more depressing then I thought it would be ousting the Glazers. All of the possible outcomes fill me with dread. I can't do much more of the Glazers, I'd hate us to be state owned and I don't want Glazer lite SJR running this club into obscurity either.
Completely agree with this weird cheerleading. I may be a pessimistic United fan but those on the "winning" side are going to be in for a rude awakening whoever wins.
I couldn’t get on the site for a minute and thought there must be news. Soon as I got on though I could hear “I got you babe” again.
While a takeover takes a while to complete, according to all the info we have, we haven't even entered the negotiations. The Glazers haven't even agreed to sell the club yet
Clearing the debt would free up about £20m in annual interest payments. It won't make much difference to our ability to spend on transfers. It will mean that the club can borrow for infrastructure projects though (eg Old Trafford refurbishment).
They do, that's true. However, if an announcement is delayed until after the FA Cup Final, that will set the conspiracy theorists going (if the Glazers are staying in some capacity, you'd imagine they'd want to reduce the inevitable blowback by waiting until the season is finished so there can't be any disruption to the match schedule by protestors).
£20m a year for transfer could effectively allow us to bring additional signings worth £80- 100m this year .
Off course It would make huge difference .
I fear you might be right
Was nearly sigend and delivered, but he found out at the last moment that Sharks played in Stockport - a definite 'no-no' for a dedicated United fan.
Yes you are right I missed the salary part my bad, it could be utilised in any way just gives us greater flexibility .
You think this process is slow? Imagine how long the Greens would take to make their mind up!
Wouldn't that be the case with both bids?
Yes, agreed. It has been a millstone around our necks since the takeover.
I think the suggestion is that the Glazers are shamelessly just demanding more cash for something they barely own and have riddled with debt and that’s souring a lot of people who are close to the dealings.
Also the ‘bidding rounds’ are a sham, they’re just going keep waiting until a silly offer comes in.
The Qataris have pledged to remove the debt entirely. I am unsure exactly what Ineos plan to do. The existing bonds will need to be repaid if there is a change of ownership, but that could be done by financing them (ie the current debt would be replaced by a new debt of identical size). If Ineos load the replacement debt onto their balance sheet, it is no longer a concern for the club, but if it comes straight back on to the club then we'd still be saddled with ongoing annual interest payments. I believe it was reported that Ineos would, "not load any new debt on to the club", if their takeover is successful, but I don't know whether they would consider the refinanced Glazer acquisition debt 'new' or not. It is one of the many, many things that it would be nice to have answers to, but we know so little about the bids (and in Jassim's case, very little even about the bidder).
What difference does it make?
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Yeah, but they have to make something up, otherwise they have nothing to talk about.
Heaven knows i'm miserable now
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