Yeah this stuff coupled with the shit of Ratcliffe lowering his percentage repeatedly and keeping the Glazers on while financing the entire thing through debt just fecking reeks of another parasite.
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Yeah this stuff coupled with the shit of Ratcliffe lowering his percentage repeatedly and keeping the Glazers on while financing the entire thing through debt just fecking reeks of another parasite.
How is it everything they touch turns into a shambles, but they still make tons of money regardless? Mental
Thank you.
I’m sorry but I’m not having that quote about the Champions League from a former employee. That’s nothing to do with Ineos or promises to be in the Champions League, like was being claimed.
It seems like a lot of financial commitment on players, so concerns about penny pinching and stripping the budget aren’t relevant, like some are suggesting. A club like Nice are obviously going to have to pay more to attract players, given that they’re not a top French club, let alone being in a top league, but the concerns seems to contradict. They are going to penny pence etc and now they’re paying players too much.
You seem to be very accepting of Qatar, despite PSG fans protesting against the board. Multiple other clubs performing badly under Qatari ownership too. These things just seem to be glossed over. You surely understand that if PSG were in the Premier League and ran this way, they’d be fighting for top four each year too. They’re absolutely nowhere near a model that we should be following.
Ultimately, it’s a concern, but it’s a concern that for me, I’ll deal with if it happens at United over the coming years. The Qatar is a concern that I’ll have to deal with right now, as in do I continue supporting United next season. So you can raise all the red flags you want about Nice, but I’m never getting onboard with a state funded United.
"We have looked at a lot of clubs in the manner we look at businesses in INEOS - for value and potential"
It's not hard to see why they would be quite happy to be in partnership with the Glazers.
That is not exclusivity, that is given to the bid winners once a bid has been accepted.
He never mentioned CL until 2022 and to be fair, they had just finished 5th. The change in manager didn't work out, hence they are where they are right now.
Lots of talk of Nice as we get close to Sir Jim being given the go ahead is unsurprising but not terribly relevant to Manchester United.
Yes I said similar earlier in that the fact Qatar went direct to the Glazer’s and had a meeting at a hotel they own then bid the following day suggests a deal was agreed in principle so Qatar then made that deal official so now they’ll see if Ineos will top it and if not they’ll decide if they want all the money in one go to leave or four leave with the other two hanging around to see if they can get a bit more in 3-4 years.
I wonder if they’ve made a Prime documentary on this. They could call it ‘All or 51%: The Glazers’
Waiting for a potential city getting to final media bumming if they win to release news of a preferred bidder to take the shine off? 
The Qataris and Jim both being played. It's all going exactly as you'd expect. Two take it or leave it final offers.
This.
I’ve never understood how Brent has amassed such a large, cult like following who seem to hang on to his every word.
back in the day when Glazers took over, they also had a semi-failed ownership of multiple sports team and we knew how this turned out to be.
Profitable for them, woeful for fans... someone mentioned Nice's overall value tripling before few posts.
SJR's almost non-existent public stance on debt, investment gives me flashes of Glazers. Hey but atleast we will have a british owner. Oops, is he still british?
I hope when the yanks leave they take this yank leech with them, goldbridge might be a cnut but atleast he hasn't gone so low (i hope) as to selling exclusive madeup transfer news for money on patreon.
Athletic is a very reliable outlet and I very much doubt that the former employee they interviewed was Nice FC tea lady. Thus I do believe that the aims were indeed the CL. It's also in line to the signings made ie veteran players with experience in top leagues. Money doesn't seem to be the most pressing of issues. There again NICE/Lausanne run on fumes compared to Manchester United and INEOS has never attempted to ratify their many problems by throwing money at it. Ratcliffe himself stress on sustainability and not overpaying. The concern of gross mismanagement is quite real I am afraid. As Stephen Howson like to say, you wouldn't give your dog to someone whose got a reputation of mistreating dogs even if he promises not to mistreat your dog.
Oh I have many concerns with Qatar. Al-Khelaifi is too close to the players, they paid silly salaries for certain players and I called their former sporting director Leonardo is, alongside Bob Ratcliffe and cyclist man, the most overrated and luckiest people in football. God knows how that idiot managed to work with Inter, Milan and PSG. However there's one thing that the Qatari are willing to do that we've yet to see Ratcliffe do and that is to constantly throw silly money to make things work. They also seem better then Ineos in everything whether its first team (PSG are first, Nice are 10th), the youth academy (PSG are second in the group A of the U19 league, Nice are 4th last in Group D) etc
Obviously the prospective owner's performance as owner of one club is relevant to his potential performance as owner of Manchester United. It's a good estimate of whether or not he would make good decisions and what those likely decisions would be, eg. lots of firings and potentially bringing in less qualified staff or ignoring advice from well-respected staff
The scale of the investment is too different.
You know he also has a patreon, right? The difference is he is already an influencer from fifa so he doesn't have to. The other guy is a nobody. So I wouldn't put it past either.
What does that mean?
is goldbridge selling exclusive transfer news on patreon? if he is, he is as much of a scumbag as the muppetbabies were, i remember the time the muppetiers blew up on reddit, they were transfer itks they didn't have much content outside of transfer news, selling madeup bs for money is basically being a conman as i see it.
Behind the scenes friction? What is this? Succession?
I doubt that the son of a former Qatari PM would know that the United Stand even exist just as I very much doubt that the owner of a 14b rated company even know who the Muppeteer is. My point is that he can't accuse anyone to be a crony when he himself claim to have reliable sources within the INEOs camp.
I find these personal attacks from youtube channels as disgusting tbh. It was already silly having the two biggest channels fighting one another but its now spreading with the splinter groups and now even with the small channels.
As with anything United, we don't make it easy. I thought our transfer sagas were bad(Pogba, De Jong, Vidal, Herrera), but holy moly, this takeover isn't any different, is it? The only thing missing is guys in black suits with a brief case going to negotiate with Ratcliff and Jasim.
The sooner the Glazers are out and take their circus with them, the better.
The sooner the Glazers are out and take their circus with them, the better.
I like Whitwell but this really isn't an update at all. "Invested observers speculate..."
Frankly, if people are stupid and gullible enough to hand their money over to these idiots in exchange for "information" that they've obviously made up, then good luck to them.
Well it is technically isn't it
That may be so, but stealing from them also makes you a scumbag. Just because it can be done doesn't make it right.
its exclusive interviews with him I think, not sure if he actually locks transfer stuff behind it but they are both clout chasers. Thats why its hilarious when they go for each others throats.
Horsehead in their bed?
This is just so exhausting. The fact the PL has said nothing on this makes me want Qatar even more.
There should be some peer pressure within the league not to feck up an institution like United but no one seems to give a toss unless we become too big/strong
There should be some peer pressure within the league not to feck up an institution like United but no one seems to give a toss unless we become too big/strong
Could be Raine ? They have gone directly to the Glazers this time cutting out the middle man for the final offer, they will obviusly get their cut of the sale when it goes through.
To be fair, that’s fairly tame by their usual standards.
I’ve read many times on this forum that the debt will remain on the club if Jim wins the auction, but I don’t think this is the case.
There is apparently a change of control clause in the current debt agreement. I haven’t read this from a totally definitive source, but it seems unlikely that any lenders would allow the Glazers to ‘sell-on’ their multi-million pound debt. For example, they could sell the debt to me and there would be no way that I could afford the repayments. The banks wouldn’t just allow the Glazers to walk away from it in this case, so I believe that the change of control clause exists.
in Jim’s limited statements before the NDA was enforced he did say there would be no new debt on the club. If he was to pay off the original debt as part of the purchase and then take out a new loan and place it back on the club, that would be new debt in my mind. My assumption is that the amount of this debt will be placed on INEOS and United won‘t ‘feel the effects’ of it.
Like everyone else, I just wish he had come out clearly and said the club would be debt free (apart from transfer obligations) if he bought them. I’m sure his bid would be much more popular if that had been the case.
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