That's a pretty good take, it's nice to see him get some credit on here. He's definitely genuine, to a flaw sometimes. Maybe if he played the game and kissed ass he would be friends with Rio too, but instead he calls out Nevilles crap on Sky and then laments he won't come on the show. But I like the honesty.
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How much are the bids?
It's not about throwing money (though that helps).
Middle Eastern owners tend to demand results. Results as in, trophies. Something we haven't won a lot of lately.
If a year goes by without a trophy, heads will roll and new personnel will be hired until we find a winning combination.
The mates' rates which we have been seeing for the past few years will be stopped and specialists will be hired, who are good at their job.
Things like Phil Jones being kept at the club will be a thing of the past, as it makes no footballing sense.
Buying players are who are not suitable for the role they are being asked to perform on the pitch, will be less likely...hopefully.
The stadium will be rebuilt or improved (you've seen how the Middle Eastern people erect buildings - they tend to be state of the art).
Anyway, you get the drift - it's not just about money, it's also about bringing the right people to propel the club upwards trophies.
Yeah, that's why Sky News, FT etc. know about all this stuff first
Stock market doesn't seem to rate Jassim's chances.
Whuy not?
Two completely different clubs and scenarios. City were and would still be nothing without their owners and oil money. Utd are arguably the biggest club in the world and having owners who clear the debt and upgrade the stadium and facilities will allow the club to run itself. I can understand not wanting Qatar but to equate the situation with City is disingenuous.
It has barely moved today, which it used to do.
this. The problem with the Glazers has been that all decisions have been made from a financial standpoint rather than for footballing reasons. That will stop.
In the belief that Glazers may want to take more cash now rather than more cash later. Hypothetically, if Jim’s bid values the equity at 5.5 billion, and Jassim’s at 5 billion, Glazers will get only 2.8 billion from Jim and 3.45 billion from Jassim. He may think that Glazers want to cash out and thus he has an advantage over the other bid and he deserves a discount on the other valuation.
Has any of the financial/business outlets confirmed his bid? If so, could you share them, please?
What are the break down for each individual Glazer? For the sake of ease, prerend they all have equal shares.
I get not matching or bettering ratcliffe's 50% offer my astonishment was at not bettering Ratcliffe's 69% offer. As the poster who i replied to said jassim's offer isn't better than ratcliffe's 69% offer why even bid is my question. That just makes jassim look like an idiot.
No idea.
It is better, though.
In what way are the bids lower? When they are compared to each other we can presume they are for the same amount of shares. IE we should not believe that SJR bid is £5 billion for 69% and SJ 5 billion for 100% and thus SJR:s 1,5 times as high.
Who knows, ineos say their bids are higher, Qatar says their's are. At this point honestly don't think anyone other than raine glazers sjr and jassim know what the bids actually are, the journos are just guessing.
Stock market will respond more to credible outlets and not sports journalists from England.
The market apparently isn't impressed given that the stock price has been relatively flat.
After seeing the City fans at the Etihad loving life, it's painfully obvious that we need Qatar.
The 100% is just bs from idiots who in their day jobs can't even tell whether wage and transfer fees just plain basic amount or inclusive of bonuses that need to be achieved. My question is more regarding the news that SJR's both bids valuing utd higher than Jassim's.
Haha. You shouldn't be so annoyed, then. No good for your health.
But, if reports are true, that SJR values the club higher (6bn), and Sheikh Jassim has made an improved bid (5.5bn), then Jassim's bid is better.
No it isn't.
You didn’t need the FA charges to know City have been cheating since day one. You’re being disingenuous here.
He doesn’t have one so that’s an unknown. Ratcliffe does and it’s terrible.
As far as the laughing goes, knock yourself out.
*throws up*
But they don't have the moral high ground.
Not only their fans loving it but the worlds media constantly praising them whilst being owned by the Middle East and having 100+ corruption charges against them. Bring on the Oil I say.
Those things are not exclusive to Middle Eastern owners. That ruthlessness sounds like how PSG have been ran, which isn’t something I’d advocate. I don’t think a massive churn is healthy, the most successful clubs don’t tend to do that.
There's alot more who care, but I take the point.
They're currently charged with point blank cheating, yet since then all I hear from the media is how great they are, them winning the treble, Pep been some sort of God, etc, with barely a mention of anything negative. Newcastle similar, it seems to some think they have got to where they suddenly are by pure skill and hard work, well if that's how it's going to be then I'll have a bit of that thank you very much.
Seriously it's sad that we are left wanting the sort of owner that we hate City for having (because they shouldn't have been allowed to get City to where they are right now totally unchecked), more so as we really shouldn't need one (because the Glazers should never have been allowed to buy United), but here we are, 'if you can't beat them join them', and all that.
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Exactly. If they win the Treble this year do you really think FIFA or UEFA are taking it away?
They will get away with it all.At the thought of yet more depressing season ahead at Old Trafford under Ratcliffe and the Glazers.
'Would beating city to the title still be fun with Qatar money'
Yes. Yes it would, much better than watching City win it for the next 5 years while we take some sort of mortal stand by finishing 4th
Yes. Yes it would, much better than watching City win it for the next 5 years while we take some sort of mortal stand by finishing 4th
No, at the United fans pining to be City fans.
Just go you dirty greedy scumbags
This.
Precisely. And in a few years you can add beating Newcastle too.
That sounds extremely illegal, and because it's something they obviously have no authority to do no one would listen to a fake deadline.
True. We need Qatar to be the best club in England and the world.
Indeed.
If you look at City and see the kind of football club you wish to support then there's a very simple path to that.
Smaller $$$ doesn't usually = better when it comes to the Glazers.
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