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This whole process shows why we can't get any decent transfer fees for our deadwood. The Glazers are fecking shite at selling anything.

Jassim is throwing money in their faces and Joel is still trying to figure out whether Telles has a future at the club.
 
Devil You Know said:
This whole process shows why we can't get any decent transfer fees for our deadwood. The Glazers are fecking shite at selling anything.

Jassim is throwing money in their faces and Joel is still trying to figure out whether Telles has a future at the club.
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Wouldnt put it beyond Telles to scupper the entire sale.
 
Devil You Know said:
This whole process shows why we can't get any decent transfer fees for our deadwood. The Glazers are fecking shite at selling anything.

Jassim is throwing money in their faces and Joel is still trying to figure out whether Telles has a future at the club.
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I think you're giving them too much credit mate, Joel Glazer has no idea who Telles is.
 
@sglowrider The thread you’d replied to me in has been closed down by control freak mods :lol:

You may be right about Woodward. Though the official line was that he was letting go of stuff towards the end of his reign. Quite a few on here believed that he was no longer involved in transfers…
 
This whole process and the latest reports about the rain group and how they’ve been handling the sheik J bid This makes me wonder if there was some sort of agreement behind the doors between Sir Jim Ratcliffe and the rain, hence them having preferential treatment and also the fact that the Qataris have not been able to get any headway in their negotiations so they’ve now gone cut out the middleman. It’s quite interesting and if it is the case, then we would have the rain to blame Any kind of crap deal that we will get.
 
So they met Avram in person, but sources say they are still unsure of whether they really want to sell. Wonder how that meeting went.
 
mu4c_20le said:
So they met Avram in person, but sources say they are still unsure of whether they really want to sell. Wonder how that meeting went.
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They put a bid in the following morning so my gut tells me they do think the Glazers want to sell.
 
Rolaholic said:
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It seemed pretty clear they were doing a poor job running the club even looking from the outside despite some posters' attempts to claim Nice were somehow doing well, but seeing comments like that from someone internal is extremely worrying. I have no interest in a Boehly-like figure trying to force their football ideas over respected professionals who have shown they know what they're doing.
 
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Might explain hotelgate
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I do wonder if the Raine Group were more inclined towards SJR bid as it may have brought them more commission. I know the Sheikhs bid is for more money up front but I wonder if Raine groups commission was based on the value of the sale as opposed to up front amount. Who knows.
 
This saga has been nauseating. I cant stand the Glazers anymore. Just fecking sell the club and go away. The fecking leeches.
 
Chief123 said:
I do wonder if the Raine Group were more inclined towards SJR bid as it may have brought them more commission. I know the Sheikhs bid is for more money up front but I wonder if Raine groups commission was based on the value of the sale as opposed to up front amount. Who knows.
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Didn’t Jim feck about raine last time with late bids etc for Chelsea, if your going down that route I believe it would be a lot more likely he would be used as a pawn to extract maximum cash from the Qatar state.
 
Chief123 said:
I do wonder if the Raine Group were more inclined towards SJR bid as it may have brought them more commission. I know the Sheikhs bid is for more money up front but I wonder if Raine groups commission was based on the value of the sale as opposed to up front amount. Who knows.
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It would be extremely unprofessional for either side if that were the case. The Qataris for trying to save a few quid, and Raine for letting the commission influence their decision. It is more likely that Qatar tried to rush things, or wanted more feedback about the bids that Raine weren't willing to give. Maybe they have their way of doing business, and they found out money doesn't always talk.
 
Chief123 said:
I do wonder if the Raine Group were more inclined towards SJR bid as it may have brought them more commission. I know the Sheikhs bid is for more money up front but I wonder if Raine groups commission was based on the value of the sale as opposed to up front amount. Who knows.
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More likely is that they knew one of the parties were a giant and it would be completely one sided and wouldn’t encourage much of a bidding war if it was a level playing field.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Raine had advised Ineos to make the bid to include the Glazers. They have favoured one side, leaked all these stories to the journalists and created a bit of a balance in the sale to make SJ side graft and eventually become frustrated.
 
Dan_F said:
Yeah I think we’ve done this argument to death. I don’t know enough about Nice to understand why they had more success under previous ownership. Clearly Puel and Favre outperformed Nice’s usual positioning, but the slide ultimately started prior to Ineos taking over. They didn’t take over a side that had finished in the top four, they took over a side that had finished 8th and 7th.

I don’t really see any need in counting finishes from 2013 to try and discredit Ineos. In that case you can see the 13th, 15th, 17th finishes and show that Jim has been far more consistent.

Lausanne are a yo-yo club. They’ve spent more time outside the top division in the last 20 years than in it. It’s likely that they underestimated the league, as they are not a big player in the slightest.

Of course it’s concerning though. I’d be far more comfortable with the owners of Brighton or Brentford taking over, but it’s not an option. And for me, most options are more palatable than state funding. Even if it means we aren’t going to compete with Man City, which I think we can under Ineos.
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From what I read INEOS have no idea on how to run a football club. Players were brought in behind the manager back to the point that Favre didn't knew how old Barkley is and which position he plays in. Some cyclist guy was tasked to make an audit about the club and Bob Ratcliffe keep getting kicked upstairs (president of Lausanne, Nice CEO and then head of football) despite having no experience in football and that he keeps tanking at every club. On a players perspective they have Ramsay on over 104k a week which around to what Osimhen is paid. Barkley at 30k is paid more then Kvaratskhelia

Petit has said the following " "Who is making the decisions? Mr. Ratcliffe, Mr. Blanc, Mr. Rivère. The direction that INEOS and OGC Nice want to take, I have no idea!". Vedouble ie a Lausanne fan pretty much echoed the same concerns "It is still difficult to understand what the project is." They shat on the club's history by changing its badge (which was 120 years old), they fired their own man (Thompson) who was quite popular among fans so they can make space to erm Bob Ratcliffe. They fired Pablo Iglesias for no good reason as well and then they fired Giorgio Contini ie the man who helped them get promoted and that despite Lausanne were in a respectable 6th position at the time. His successor barely lasted beyond the halfway point of the following campaign

It's not all doom and gloom. They invested in a 12k+ stadium at Lausanne. Meanwhile they had hired Blanc as INEOS sport CEO, Fabrice Bocquet as CEO and Florent Ghisolfi as sporting director. However the likes of cyclist man and Bob Ratcliffe are still around (cyclist man was also part of Ratcliffe's team who visited United)

BTW here is the CL part

“The people at the club before were good for the middle of the table but I think when Ineos bought the club, they wanted Champions League,” says one former employee. “When you want to be in the Champions League every year, you must have people who know how to play in the Champions League every year.”

It comes from an Athletic article so I believe that its quite credible

The EPL is the most competitive league in the world. In my opinion its the second most competitive league I've ever seen in my life (second only to the Serie A of the late 80s and the early 90s). Every thing matters from money to exceptional management etc. I think we can all agree that INEOS won't be the leaders money wise which is fair enough. However they are also a parody in terms of football management and that is simply unacceptable. I hope I am wrong on this one but I can't see us seriously compete under them. That sentiment seem to be shared by all ABUs who support INEOS bid and hate the Qatari one
 
MDFC Manager said:
Share price is steady. News of the improved Qatar bid hasn't done much to change it
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Probably doesn’t help that he’s gone in with a last ditch offer of £10 and a snickers bar

I don’t think it’s expected to be accepted if it’s still lower per share than Ineos
 
Berbaclass said:
Muppetiers are accusing Mark of being paid by Qatar.
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Mark is many things but I very much doubt that he's been paid by anyone TBH. Muppetiers should be careful what he says. After all he's the one who keep mentioning that he's got very close links to INEOS
 
devilish said:
From what I read INEOS have no idea on how to run a football club. Players were brought in behind the manager back to the point that Favre didn't knew how old Barkley is and which position he plays in. Some cyclist guy was tasked to make an audit about the club and Bob Ratcliffe keep getting kicked upstairs (president of Lausanne, Nice CEO and then head of football) despite having no experience in football and that he keeps tanking at every club. On a players perspective they have Ramsay on over 104k a week which around to what Osimhen is paid. Barkley at 30k is paid more then Kvaratskhelia

Petit has said the following " "Who is making the decisions? Mr. Ratcliffe, Mr. Blanc, Mr. Rivère. The direction that INEOS and OGC Nice want to take, I have no idea!". Vedouble ie a Lausanne fan pretty much echoed the same concerns "It is still difficult to understand what the project is." They shat on the club's history by changing its badge (which was 120 years old), they fired their own man (Thompson) who was quite popular among fans so they can make space to erm Bob Ratcliffe. They fired Pablo Iglesias for no good reason as well and then they fired Giorgio Contini ie the man who helped them get promoted and that despite Lausanne were in a respectable 6th position at the time. His successor barely lasted beyond the halfway point of the following campaign

It's not all doom and gloom. They invested in a 12k+ stadium at Lausanne. Meanwhile they had hired Blanc as INEOS sport CEO, Fabrice Bocquet as CEO and Florent Ghisolfi as sporting director. However the likes of cyclist man and Bob Ratcliffe are still around (cyclist man was also part of Ratcliffe's team who visited United)

BTW here is the CL part

“The people at the club before were good for the middle of the table but I think when Ineos bought the club, they wanted Champions League,” says one former employee. “When you want to be in the Champions League every year, you must have people who know how to play in the Champions League every year.”

It comes from an Athletic article so I believe that its quite credible

The EPL is the most competitive league in the world. In my opinion its the second most competitive league I've ever seen in my life (second only to the Serie A of the late 80s and the early 90s). Every thing matters from money to exceptional management etc. I think we can all agree that INEOS won't be the leaders money wise which is fair enough. However they are also a parody in terms of football management and that is simply unacceptable. I hope I am wrong on this one but I can't see us seriously compete under them. That sentiment seem to be shared by all ABUs who support INEOS bid and hate the Qatari one
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god reading that gives me nightmares. Imagine a shit run organization and still have debt and still have glazers around.
 
devilish said:
Mark is many things but I very much doubt that he's been paid by anyone TBH. Muppetiers should be careful what he says. After all he's the one who keep mentioning that he's got very close links to INEOS
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Absolutely. He's very biased in favor of Ratcliffe
 
pocco said:
Last time I ventured in this thread, people were claiming the SJR bid was for the Glazer share only, which was over £5b for 69%.-



Possibly, but it's just strange how there's barely any mention, if any, from prior to his bid for United. Even his Wikipedia was extremely short when the bid was announced, as though it had quickly been created.



Ok that makes the most sense, and is how I thought it worked but was told different last time.



You just proved my point. That is clearly a different guy and is the one I see journos get him confused with...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al_Thani

Our Jassim is worth £1b apparently. But who the feck is he?



Are you actually this daft? This has been explained 100's of times at this point but you choose to ignore it.
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Just found a twitter post from Feb, I can't post media though.
Middle eastern guy made the comment, there's 2 with the same name apparently.

I've seen the pic you've posted, he doesn't look like the one the media are using - I assume the one on the wiki is the 'other' Jassim.

It's all very confusing
 
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I don't understand how a colossal bellend like Goldbridge can be such a big figure of the United fanbase. One of the most embarrassing thing about the club to be honest.
 
Infra-red said:
You mean this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al_Thani

That's a completely different person and is not the Jassim who is bidding to buy United.
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Right okay, that means there's no presence at all for the guy who the media are talking about, which is very odd as the rest of the family have articles and wiki pages.

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Found something!
If you go to his dads wiki page' there's a Jassim listed under Personal Life - all 15 children are listed.
There's only one Jassim in this list of children and his name doesn't link to a personal profile, but the Wiki page for Qatari Bank.

I think this is the Jassim who's bid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Jassim_bin_Jaber_Al_Thani
 
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