Nope, that comment was exclusively and specifically for you. You said Jassims bid was 4.9bn which values the club at 7bn. That is plainly ridiculous so I simply corrected you. If that’s an attack then by all means believe what you want. No skin off my nose.
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Many companies don't give dividends, and instead reinvest it into the company.
You can keep repeating this till the cows come home, it just won't register with a lot of people. They're not listening. Not interested in being even slightly corrected on what they consider facts. Debt = doom. The only salvation is a Scrooge McDuck style guy who can just fetch six billion (in coin) from his money bin.
I will do some soul searching and will let you know how it goes.
I did not say that. During this process journalists have sometimes used a number for the Glazers shares and other times for the whole club, so it's somewhat unclear, if the article clarifies it then fair enough, but I didn't say jassims bid did value the club at 7bn I said it would need clarification
Just hope the Qataris won't come back with a bid that keeps one of the rats on board as well.
It sounds like Keegan put his transfer hat back on. "Qatar weighing up 11th hour bid". What's next, that Qatar are monitoring the situation?
True, but that does have to be shown to be true and any excess profits can leave you liable to scrutiny. You're probably right though, with a football club and the constant reinvestment needed in players it would be fine.
That's probably part of the plan to squeeze the other investors out and buy them for less money in the long run.
I think this may be the most tiring thread in Caf history.
If reporters are to be believed, Jassim has included the debt and some of the investment needed in his £5bn bid.
The stuff about getting in bed with Glazers is just technicality. Ratcliffe’ bid will give Glazers zero control and has a call option clause. There is nothing stopping Jassim from bettering that offer, if he’s as loaded as everyone thinks he is.
I’m not keen on Ratcliffe either. I have a long post from two weeks ago about my concerns with him. But this Qatari guy is increasingly looking like he doesn’t have anywhere near the backing people here think he does.
Serious question to the people backing Qatari ownership: what would you have to say to the members of the LGBT community who follow Manchester United and would (justifiably in my opinion) feel excluded from doing so in the future were the Qatari bid to win out?
IMO Qatar will move as soon as they know what it will take. The Glazers must be overjoyed they got a two horse race.
"What's more important, winning the Premier League or your feelings? Stop thinking of yourself for once and think of trophies."
Something along these lines
You literally won’t because I imagine people like you are incapable of doing such actions. Weaponising accusations of racism needlessly is genuinely horrific and an example of yet again how undignified and lacking in morals our fanbase can be. I’m genuinely amazed your post hasn’t received a warning.
This latest 'update' absolutely reeks of ploy by Glazers for Qatar to bite and come in with a 'bid to blow' the competition out of water!
If the third and 'final' bids were just that, they'd have decided and informed the bidder by now. These leeches are the opitomy of money grabbers with zero regard for the club and supporters.
If the third and 'final' bids were just that, they'd have decided and informed the bidder by now. These leeches are the opitomy of money grabbers with zero regard for the club and supporters.
This happened earlier in the thread and they were told to not let the door hit them on the way out.
I’m using him as shorthand. I doubt INEOS have 5bn cash to hand either.
I thought Round 3 was the third and final offer? Now they can change it? What is this, Round 4? Or Round 3B? Never heard such a load of nonsense in all my days.
No you're getting it confused with history.
The reason why City fans don't seem to care is because they have gone from absolute nobodies to being top of the Prem through tons of money. What's been done at City could have been done with any club given enough money.
It's nothing to do with who you're owned by its how you've done it. The difference with United is that we're already a massive club, if not the biggest club in the world. If a state throws money at us nothing changes we already have a winning history to back it up. We're not a small club like City We're before they had money thrown at them. There's no chance in hell they would be where they are now without the money. They'd still be fighting it out in the Championship.
Not defending the Glazers, but every business owner would try to get the best deal possible.
it does sound like theres a party been going on and quatar wernt invited
Well I'd probably that 60 years ago, homosexuality was illegal in the UK, we've made a lot of progress in 60 years. Closer cultural ties to the west are likely to gradually improve things in Qatar, Saudi Arabia certainly isn't a bastion of women's rights but since they've started seeking closer ties to the west things have improved for women. It's easy to look at these countries and think its totally barbaric but they're really only about 60-70 years behind us, I'm not saying Qatar buying man united is going to immediately make it a great place for lgbt people, but closer cultural ties with more tolerant countries, will gradually improve things, telling them to feck off until they share our values is far less likely to improve things
I don’t want either bid but why would they feel excluded?
United doesn’t take on the owners beliefs.
Here's something to think about for those who like a hypothetical...
What if Ratcliffe makes us successful again?
Ridiculously I know, given how he's only ever known failure in his life, but what if?
What if Ratcliffe makes us successful again?
Ridiculously I know, given how he's only ever known failure in his life, but what if?
I wouldn't say anything personally as that's not my job, or role in society. I very much disagree with religion of all kinds and with homophobia etc. However, it will be going on regardless of who buys this football club and we can't really do anything about other cultures, religions and their beliefs. We can only hope that eventually they see sense.
I'm sure they will not implement any kind of banning from United or anything based on your gender, sexuality or religion so the choice is there to take regarding whether you continue supporting the club. Sadly, we can't control how everyone thinks. It would be equally reasonable to say that everyone supporting Jim should have to reassure every person currently struggling through the Tory 'poor people cull' or 'cost of living crisis' if you prefer.
We don't know what Jassim's values are, or Jim's.
I suspect Ratcliffe will use the classic sale-leaseback trick, by selling OT and all the other land the club owns and then leasing back what the club needs.
It’s a tried and tested method for private equity buyers looking to extract value from a target, and one way he could raise funds to develop the stadium and fund transfers. The club would be fecked in the long term though given the huge rent payments on the stadium.
It’s a tried and tested method for private equity buyers looking to extract value from a target, and one way he could raise funds to develop the stadium and fund transfers. The club would be fecked in the long term though given the huge rent payments on the stadium.
According to their accounts, £2.6bn in cash or cash equivalents.
Does Twitter not reflect Musk’s beliefs?
Well naturally I'd be furious because at one point during a potential takeover process, I favoured a bid that said would clear the debt, invest in infrastructure and the team over the one that hasn't made any comment about that
Warnings work in mysterious ways, like how are you even still here after some of your past performances in this thread, I am genuinely amazed too.underrated reference
I think it is pretty common that negotiations between the parties continue after the final round. Someone with more experience than me can probably enlighten us a bit more.
As a member of the LGBT community, though, why should you be expected to tolerate those who have zero tolerance for you?
I'm sure they're not all doing it consciously, but I feel that those backing the Qatar bid are effectively telling those LGBT supporters of Manchester United who will feel excluded by this bid that the club getting to spend more money in the future is more important than their sense of inclusion at Manchester United. I think that's really quite a sad message.
The difference between the West back then and the Middle East today is that the masses had the power to enact change in the West, and over time this is what happened.
Places like Qatar exist on the whims of individuals who answer to nobody. The masses have no power to enact change.
In the West, the people are the counties. In the Middle East it's a handful of ultra wealthy, ultra conservative dictators.
As someone who isn't fussed as long as we get rid of the glazers I'd be delighted if Jim made us successful again.
Like everything on the Internet these days everything has to be tribal. Football, politics and reality tv rubbish. I'm right you're wrong.
Hopefully whoever takes united over considers success on the pitch equally or even better more important than business. Naive I know.
Why are you possibly talking about past performances? You surely do not want anyone reminded AGAIN of how your morals went missing when you had a chance of oil money.
I respect a person who shows consistency
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