We're gonna be owned by INEOS, he's just the Chairman and CEO of the company so he's the man fronting it
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That's what it sounds like and it would make far more sense for Ineos to do that than burden it on the club anyway. They make huge profits and putting some debt on the business to avoid tax on the repayments (and reduce the tax Ineos pay) would make more sense than putting it on United where there's little / no tax benefit.
Ooof.
Harry redknapp will be driving past old Trafford with his window rolled down any minute now
As shareholders with 0 power, like if the Glazers don't want to leave just yet what more do you want? By all accounts it seems they'll be out the door permanently in a few years but until then at least they'll have 0 power.
Less than 5??? Stick a fork in this - it’s done. Welcome Sir Jim!Their power will be gone and bought out eventually. In terms of decision making, they will be gone.
Thats a big, some would say racist, statement
How is a whole rich state getting beaten by INEOS, who need a loan to buy 50% of the club?
HAVE SOME SHAME!
HAVE SOME SHAME!
Not for long, just here for one final payout. They wont be making any decisions
When you're owned by a state, I'd say it's harder to feel any genuine sense of pride or accomplishment when the team wins anything.
City fans almost seemed like they couldn't even give a feck when they scored during the game I was at (Leicester). Success seems to have become pretty meaningless to them.
Probably one of many Wumminator's alt accounts.
Raine rejected Sir Jim’s bid for Chelsea after the deadline, I don’t see why this would be different?
He came into the process late in that scenario. This is also not in a strict deadline like Chelsea was.
Just over a decade ago they had no fans (and even now have to give away tickets to fill their stadium). How is it comparable to us? We have a loyal fanbase, millions of people. Whoever will take over will not change that in the slightest.
No. Someone who doesnt understand nuance and subtlety would say its racist. Someone who believes where the money is coming from would say its factual. Never said an individual or a group itself is a terrorist.
Qatar in the mud
Discussing details is the preferred bidder/exclusivity stage. Until now, it's been basically top line proposals. Now they have to get into all the fine details.
Jim’s being used as a pawn.
Oh come on now. It was implied & you know it.
Sure, but if you read the article it is fairly clear the source is Ineos and not Raine or the Glazers. The reference to one of the Chelsea bidders assuming they were about to be named preferred bidders before being dumped for Boehly is the real giveaway that Lawton and Dickinson have been briefed by SJR or someone close to him.
New world order?
Clubs fecked under Jim he can’t even compete in a 1 club league in France
He clearly doesn’t have the type of funds needed to compete at the very top and he’s gotten into bed with the Glazers it seems
He clearly doesn’t have the type of funds needed to compete at the very top and he’s gotten into bed with the Glazers it seems
The next few days will certainly be interesting.
Which would indicate then that INEOS have word from the Glazers and/or Raine that they've been chosen, no?
Why do you assume everyone I am white? I made a post within the context of the deal itself. Not a person or group of people.
if the Qataris were serious, this wouldn’t be a contest. The fact that it is could mean they really aren’t and fans should not get their knickers in a twist. Jassims father’s comments are telling and maybe fans should just take things for what they are.
If he wins it and starts changing everything it’s not necessarily a good thing. We seems to actually be building something behind the scenes with people who know where the line is between football and business.
Add to the fact that all his men have made a feck up of it in France then that worries me more.
If he comes in, clears the debt, realises the project already started and helps with that then I’m all for it.
Manchester United should be different from the City’s and PSGs of the world. Even if it means sacrificing signing all the top players. We can still be successful if we build on an *actual* strategy.
Add to the fact that all his men have made a feck up of it in France then that worries me more.
If he comes in, clears the debt, realises the project already started and helps with that then I’m all for it.
Manchester United should be different from the City’s and PSGs of the world. Even if it means sacrificing signing all the top players. We can still be successful if we build on an *actual* strategy.
Can’t wait to get your reaction after this takeover is a complete failure
Hes struggling to compete with Clemont Foot for a top 10 finish in France. You think he’s taking United to the top?
There no evidence the other guy does either.
The difference was it was a hard deadline due to the special circumsances surrounding Chelsea, not least that the club effectively would cease to be able to operate without a bid being completed in a very compressed time frame. The Glazers can do whatever the feck they want and have done for almost two decades and so it is entirely plausible they would drag this on into next season if they think they can make more money by doing so. I do think they have reached the critical point and risk losing money by not committing right now but who know what those cnuts will do honestly.
It's not just about the fanbase, though. It's about the sense of identity surrounding the club, and what the club represents.
If we were to be under state ownership, that would in my opinion irreparably tarnish the club's identity. I'd go so far as to say I don't really see how anyone could argue otherwise. Although this isn't just a Qatar thing, the fact that the state in question engages in severe discrimination against migrants, outlaws homosexuality, and still promotes a number of gender imbalances, amongst other things, makes this feeling even more strong.
I'm not here to say Sir Jim and INEOS are some saints before anybody hits me with the "But global warming!!" argument (although Qatar aren't exactly fantastic on that front either), but I'd rather be owned by them than by any nation state.
I don’t want Ratcliffe anywhere near United because of his dirty history as a businessman. A proven lier. Someone who’s willing to walk over dead bodies whenever he sees an opportunity. Living in Monaco to avoid taxes despite his strong and vocal Brexit stance.
What more do we need to know to understand what we get?
Seeing him as our new owner would be my biggest disappointment as a supporter for this club. I can’t think of a worse outcome and I’m begging to higher Gods this’ll not happen. Nightmare is an understatement.
What more do we need to know to understand what we get?
Seeing him as our new owner would be my biggest disappointment as a supporter for this club. I can’t think of a worse outcome and I’m begging to higher Gods this’ll not happen. Nightmare is an understatement.
Exactly my thinking.
Jimmy Jimmy .. aaja aaja..
The guys father is one of the richest/most powerful men in Qatar he’s obviously well connected
No more so than any of the briefs stating Qatar believe their bid is preferred. Until an article quotes a spokesman for Raine or the Glazers it has to be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism.
Don’t be doubting the mighty Foot. A true Gallic juggernaut of a club if ever there was one.
Just look at Nice in France they’ve gone backwards since Ineos took over
People think he’s going to compete in England? yeah ok
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