If the Glazers did try to buy us back they definitely wouldn't be able to do it in the same way they did originally. That is the only good thing that came out of it, too late for us of course.
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To base a preference of decades of ownership on whether the current owners hang as minority shareholders for an extra couple years or not is just daft though.
Who is to say Qatar won't come in and run us like PSG for 10 years? That would be a fecking nightmare.
To say nice are run on Woodward level bad is probably an exaggeration.
Nope, they'd be taking the debt off the books of the club and placing them on to the holding company. And likely restructured on better terms.
Damn!!
Nothing to put to rest. Nice has been badly run. Using your logic some people might jump to the conclusion we have been decently run by the glazers.
I wish they would hurry up and sell it. We got a football club to run and a squad to sort out by august. Ffs it’s just so badly ran even in its sale it’s a shamble.
Looking forward to another day of absolutely f*cking nothing. Let's go.
This hasn’t been said anywhere. They’ll take any new debt from acquiring the club onto INEOS, the existing debt will remain with the club.
You realise SJR was born in Manchester and has also supported the club since he was a boy, I don't really see your point here. That Jassim fell in love with the club when he was younger so he clearly would have the clubs best intentions at heart over someone who also fell in love with the club when he was younger?
therefore between 2012-13 and 2017-18 Nice were at par or even better in 3 seasons out of 7 when compared to the best position INEOS Nice ever was. Meanwhile Lausanne got relegated once prior INEOS and twice under INEOS. They even stayed in 2nd division for 2 seasons under INEOS as well. We're talking here of being owned by a multi national company here with loads of money whose managing clubs in 2 leagues were there is barely any competition in it. If they can't compete against the mighty Lens and Young boys than how does bike man and Bob compete in the richest and most competitive league in the world?
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No no, it’s definitely about the money.
Enlighten me what is that supposed to prove? Just shows that for both teams there has been zero progress or am I reading that wrong?
SJR's support is kind of strange. He supports United while he watches and tries to buy Chelsea. He's a patriot but he move to Monaco for tax evasion and he even threatened to close his factory if the UK dare introducing EU pollution law. I believe that this guy only support himself tbh
I'm sure every fan wants this, but I think as it's been reported many times, that whilst the siblings want out, Joel and Avram are having a hard time letting go, so if they don't really want to sell then what? It might be that this option of keeping those 2 on for a few years as nothing but shareholders might be the only way to actually get them to sell the club, which is better than them staying on in full capacity and bringing in American investment firm money, leaving us extremely worse off in the long run. It might be that Qatar never had a chance, because they are clearly not willing to overpay to turn the Glazers heads.
INEOS = no progress whatsoever. We can't even bother removing the Glazers while at it
I'm trying not to be too pessimistic yet because the rumours seem to be really flimsy based on nothing. Everyone seems keen to jump on the gossip because it drives hits and views, but none of the really credible sources close to United are confirming the preferred bidder stuff as far as I can tell.
Exactly if fans don’t think the Glazers are probably still trying to get the last cent out of SJ or SJR by asking them to increase their bid, then their dreaming of the future under their preferred bidder to fit the narrative of a better tomorrow.
All United fans will need therapy after the process finishes, Glazers stay, Glazers go, SJR wins says the sun, Doha Sports say SJ got this in the bag, we don’t know however SJ team are leaking lots of information, Debt free, £250m budget from him Vs £120m from SJR and he’s telling the world what’s he’s going to do with class of 92 and whose he going to buy, so he could be a beaten man telling you what you could have had but he could have closed the deal last week and he’s starting his process, we don’t know, I doubt that even the Glazers or Raine Know because all parties are probably still negotiating!
Like I said we are all going to need therapy and so it might be a good idea for no posts until an official statement is made, speculation especially from the Sun and Dohar Sports are Tier 4 at best and really not worth the distress our fingers feel for typing on these small glass screens.
All I’m waiting for now is the Martian Chronicles to print Elon Musk is the preferred bidder and will set up a Mens, Womens and youth team on the red planet to mirror his Earth Team but will call it’s MarsUnited !
I don't want Glazers at any capacity at this club anymore and I have doubts Ratcliffe knows how or even intends to run a successful football club. That's why I'm really sceptical about him. Still better than status quo but I'd prefer someone with a bit more ambition.
Just went on Google news.
The Daily Express 3hrs ago -
The Daily Express 1 day ago -
These guys must be ITK with this kind of access to the day-to-day negotiations going on.
The Daily Express 3hrs ago -
The Daily Express 1 day ago -
These guys must be ITK with this kind of access to the day-to-day negotiations going on.
I'm not saying he isn't a bit of a clown. And the Chelsea thing is also weird but I mean if you're in London all the time and you just want to watch football, guess that's how it turned out. My point was it's just a bit of a weird thing to say Jassim would be better just cause he loved the club as a kid, well so did SJR, so it's not really an argument is it.
We can't be sure about that as he might truly change ways here but his previous engagements are worrying.
Exactly these people jump on anything to drive traffic to their websites. They don't care what they reported 24 hours earlier that's all in the past as far as they are concerned. The best example about why most of this gossip should be ignored.
Compare the last 4 years of Nice before and after Ineos took over.
Don't defend shambolic adventures!
Yesterday it was Jassim as the preferred bidder, today its INEOS. It’s probably going to flip flop a few more times before we get the genuine news.
Someone as rich as him can easily travel to Manchester to watch the game. Also he doesn't really like watching games either. He barely ever follow Nice.
Il need to dig into which article it was but you might be right
What's this based on?
on how Nice and Lausanne are run
Based on his statistics,the Glazers are far more better than Ineos.
We will be committing suicide if the club is sold to Ineos.
Particularly in the summer time. Annoying and quite embarrassing frankly.
The sad reality is that the Glazers will do what is in their own personal interests, rather than what is best for the overall interests of the club.
They remind me of my friend who is a gambling addict, that almost always bets "either side to win", when he wins "HE KNEW IT", and when it's a draw "IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY"
as gnev sai, the scum are classless til the end.( I added the scum bit)
Hope the reports are true and United maintain their soul in the face of state ownership. That said i place almost no weight on any of the reporting, and could see it just as easily being a push by the rats to get sheik Jassim to stump up a few more pennies. Notice none of the language is definitive, it’s all “approaching a point” and “likely to be” not “have decided” and “is”.
Regardless of your opinion, the point remains that it is not solely about the money as you stated.
It is ok for there to be difference of opinions, it is not ok for someone to mischarecterise the opinions of others because they don't agree with it.
Other replies have also offered other reasons.
Each to their own, we have no say it in either way, we can only express our preferences and discuss those
All this does is suggest that both teams are yo yo clubs one flitting between division 2 and division 1, the other flitting between top 5 and mid table. That suggests to me Glazers 2.0 who have owned Britains biggest club and turned it into a yo yo club between Europa League and CL in the last decade.
It suggests someone who is not hands on but hands off and employs the wrong people to get the wrong results short term and long term, this will raise Concerns amongst fans and should he win the bid, keeping the 2 Glazers brothers, anything other than Prem league challenge like Arsenal have done this year will leave SJR facing a huge uphill battle to become popular. You can see why so many fans are concerned with him as a viable option ?
Doesn't that somewhat reinforce his point? I don't notice a significant improvement in league position after they were taken over. Maybe a slight improvement in the case of Nice, but certainly worse that what they were doing in the 4 seasons prior, so you can't really give them that either.
Yes, we can put the "they were better off and Ineos has ruined them" bullshit argument.
I think the next information we get is deal agreed so probably best to look on the SEC website rather than the media.
There's hardly anybody claiming that though is it. Most claim that they are stalling or at least not visibly improving which is what you would expect after being taken over by a multi billionaire and which is why many are cautious when it come to Jim. On the other hand you might say that you can't draw conclusions from how he runs those clubs to how he will run United but these are the only hints you have. With Qatar you have PSG who also might be a bit of a circus but compared to how they were run before Qatar took over it's night and day.
But anyway let's see what comes out of that. I just hope this long period of noting happening at all doesn't mean these fecks aren't sure whether to sell at all. Wasting that much time of the bidders would be quite something.
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